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Braintree station a mess
By adamg on Tue, 01/09/2018 - 8:12am
Ksanfilsp posts video of a flooded lobby at the Braintree Red Line stop:
Turnstiles to get into the garage are broken, station is flooded, and we are delayed, at best, every other day
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Thank you !
For riding the MBTA which stands for More Bad Times Ahead.
why is it flooding?
Aqaurium, I can understand flooding at high tide, but this station is inland.
Strictly a guess
Burst pipe.
My honest question
Is this pipe a relatively recent problem, or has it been an issue for a while? The delays are one thing, but pipes can be fixed.
Dukakis era junk falling apart
All of the Dukakis era junk is falling apart. He intentionally cut corners everywhere. Dukakis loves the limelight, not reality. The stations only needed to be in top shape until 1988. His Washington/Downtown Crossing reno made the station even worse. DTC and others have been flooding for years. Baker and Pollack vowed to fix the system and they failed. + Pollack is Dukakis' protege. Have you ever seen her crappy Fairmount Line infill stations?
You're missing one thing
Anything can last with proper maintenance.
Come on. You should be using that as a kudgel. So sad.
Maintenance doesn't matter
If the original parts are cheap junk
Right on
The Braintree station has always been a hunk of junk
Oh, and
Ed King was governor when Braintree Station opened in 1980.
Waquiot, Really?
Understand Dukakis' first term. Understand the construction schedule for a rail station. Understand the controversies regarding the Braintree Extension. Understand the original Braintree fare structure. Understand SOMETHING before writing about Braintree
When did Dukakis’ first term end?
I suppose you blame Frank Sargent for the problems at Ruggles Station, too, no?
Also, didn’t the kickbacks with Quincy Adams involve members of the Great and General Court.
Lastly, what about UMass/Boston and the crappily constructed campus?
Also
How often do you get out of Somerville, for that matter?
What does Somerville have to do with Braintree?
And why are you always so Pro-Dukakis?
Dukakis was pro-transit, as am I
And I just assumed you were that anti GLX troll that's been lurking around here. Sorry if you're not (well, I'm not sorry, since he's a crazy troll) but all you anons look alike to me.
Another guess
Poor drainage.
MA went through a phase of building brutalist concrete masses and not waterproofing them properly. They rain inside when it rains outside.
All of the stations built in the 1970s to early 1980s have this problem.
It's the MBTA. Does it even
It's the MBTA. Does it even need a reason to suck anymore?
Drain Pipes
MBTA has a real problem with roof drainage pipes across the entire system but mostly with newer stations built in the 1980s onward. The pipes rust out from the inside whereupon they leak or collapse entirely in heavy rain or snowmelt. Alewife has this happen all the time.
procurement + contracting
Roof drainage pipes should have a shelf life longer than 35 years.
Problems like this are illustrative of the poor quality work done throughout public projects in Massachusetts in general. The procurement process and awarding of public contracts is seriously flawed, and stations that should last at least 50 years have completely fallen apart in 25 years.
I know there are some public projects delivered successfully on time, on budget, and with quality work, but historically, cheap materials, poor quality work, and almost no repercussions have left the public distrusting of the state to actually accomplish anything on budget and on time.
But if it's built to fall
But if it's built to fall apart it creates more .gov jobs to keep fixing it rather than building it right in the first place!
Never mind that if were built right in the first place there would also be more .gov jobs building new additional infrastructure we currently can't afford because of the maintenance issues. But that's not the way ,gov thinks. =(
You guys do know that
You guys do know that architects and engineers design the building, including the specs for all materials used? It's not the contractors fault the engineers wanted these products used.
2018
The current year is 2018.
These stations were built in the late 70s to early 80s. Kids from my HS class (1980) commuted to UMass Boston from Braintree and North Quincy. That's 40 years ago - not 25.
MBTA should put out a RFP for
MBTA should put out a RFP for a developer to replace the entire station with a housing/office/retail/parking development over it. Offer a 100 year ground lease so that the MBTA gets a new station and keeps ownership of the land while the developer does all the heavy lifting and maintenance. Seems to work for the UK.
I'm glad I'm a bus-only rider
I'm glad I'm a bus-only rider.
The few times I've tried
The few times I've tried taking a bus since last week's storm, the arrival time kept getting pushed back and back. I learned my lesson- the last time that I saw the arrival time jump from 2 minutes to 5, I immediately bailed and left a whole bunch of people still waiting at the stop.
Made it to my street (~12 minute walk) without ever seeing the bus go by.
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