Charlottesville where privileged college going white men wearing khakis and a white polo and carrying tiki torches chanted "Jews will not replace us" After which Donald Trump revealed his moral depravity and Republicans, who for decades had run on the southern strategy, rebuked Donnie "murderous neo-Nazi's are very fine people" Trump. What a horrible idea to try to divide the country on race.
THAT is what white identity is?
FACT - Someone claimed white identify was in the forefront.
That shit was *NEVER* in the forefront.
Tiki torches indeed. And the only Jew hating going on in this country worth noting is from the left wing media. Tons and tons of rich privileged white boys ARE Jews, you dink.
[quote]What is different about this iteration of white nationalism is how the movement is framing its ideas, and the place those ideas occupy in U.S. politics. One of the chants white nationalists repeatedly turned to as they marched in Charlottesville on Friday night and Saturday was “white lives matter” — a direct response to the “Black Lives Matter” movement that emerged after the killing of Michael Brown by Ferguson, Missouri, police in August 2014 and the resulting protests.[/quote]
And just told you that white nationalism is born out of having an identify of that of being white. You're being obtuse and not fooling anyone. Again, what exactly is your end goal, here?
Now see how that can be used by the white nationalists I cited above and how it could play into the graffiti in question. Not hard. I give every bit of credibility to the fact that fake hate speech has vandalized things before, but it's best not to hand wave it off so lightly.
Now see how that can be used by the white nationalists
It can be, but white nationalism is fringe. VERY fringe.
A poster claimed white identity was in the forefront and now white identity is in the background but it is wanted and being actively fought for to be in the foreground again.
I will concede to the current existence of white proliferation, but NOT any sort of white identity beyond what is displayed by white nationalists. Most white people have a lot more important things to do than put the word white in front of things to make themselves feel better. I believe 99 percent of white people do not even think about being white.
White privilege does exist in the USA, but the whites have both fought themselves and worked together for eons to end up with it as a by-product. Playing victim did not produce too many privileged winners over the centuries and it is not going to work now. And speaking of white identity, how did that white nationalism work out for the Germans?
Your comments fit the sealion pattern of trolling.
Even If you aren't purposely trolling, you're still acting like a troll and people will react accordingly.
Our entire culture is full of white people and their lives mattering. How many things in this country are named after George Washington, one of the most famous white guys? We don't need to say that white lives matter because we can see it plainly in who runs companies, who is in our government, who is pictured on our currency (with the exception of the Sacajawea gold dollar coin), who we name things after, who is on television in starring roles, etc etc etc.
Black Lives Matter does not equal White Lives Don't Matter.
Black Lives Matter equals something like... Black Lives Should Matter Just As Much As White Lives But Often They Do Not And People of Color Especially Black People Tend to Face Violence At The Hands Of White Officers And In Other Situations Where Violence Would Not Be Used On White People.
Further, the phrase "White Lives Matter" has been trotted out in response to "Black Lives Matter" and has never been used otherwise.
In this case, defacing the property is not childish. Childish is spray painting a butt or "so-and-so is dumb." Spray painting "White Lives Matter" on a black-owned business is violence and possibly even classifiable as a hate crime. It is intended to wound. It is intended to denigrate. It is intended to cause fear in black people. It's wrong.
This is awful, clearly a hate crime. To my fellow white people posting or thinking things like "all lives matter" or agreeing that "white lives matter," please stop. Saying that black lives matter doesn't mean that your life doesn't. Stop centering yourselves in this conversation. This isn't about you. We already know that white lives matter, given the advantages we as white people have in this country, just by existing- employment, housing, inherited wealth, education, protection by police, etc. Black people have NEVER been afforded the same advantages white people have always had in this country. Black lives matter, and if you feel the need to argue with this statement, you're part of the problem. Black lives matter.
And to add, those who do insist that "all lives matter" and/or "white lives matter" need to bone up their reading on black/white relations in this country since, oh, heck, since our beginning to the present day.
This is offensive as is most graffiti painted on the streets and subways of Boston. Lets see what happens if this person is identified. The courts in Boston don't take illegal guns, drug dealing or muggings seriously so if a person is charged he or she will probably mandated to take an art class at the Museum of Fine Arts.
As reported hours ago on turtleboy, this story is about as fake as can be, a google maps street image from July showed this has been on the wall for at least 8 months. And it’s in a hardly noticeable spot behind a fence. And there’s a fancy graffiti mural on the building next store, that probably would cost money, unless you were the victim of a “crime”. But instead of invstigating, and seeking out facts, all of you spent 74 comments contemplating white provelage. The racial-industrial complex is alive and well in this sad city...
The old "racism doesn't exist - people just make it up" nonsense.
Go back to your white hole, racism denier. Or, better yet, expend your efforts considering what people of color have to live through on a daily basis - including dealing with racist asses like you.
If anyone has never seen this despicable collection of racist garbage, check it out. It's Boston own little townie redneck Storm Front. Anyone who advertises with this little hate-filled pile of garbage should be boycotted for coming within 2 miles of these scumbags.
capecoddah is much more predictable than the MBTA, although I think it's a tossup between him and Roman for disingenuous sea-lion bullshit. Both are rancid racist trash, though. Too bad uhub doesn't have a block feature; they're given liberty to crap their racist sexist bullshit all over here.
Hip-hop star Talib Kweli has sued Worcester's controversial Turtleboy Sports blog for defamation, character assassination and cyber harassment -- though it is unclear whether the suit will proceed.
The lawsuit pits Kweli against Turtleboy, the Worcester blog owned by Aidan Kearney that regularly publishes profane takedowns of Worcester politicians, progressive social media users and others.
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"I sent him a cease and desist after, and normally, I don't ignore that stuff, but I have enough truth on my side that I confront all of it," Kweli told Billboard. "But this one, I went the extra step and some blog got a hold of the letter and there's now a story circulating that I'm suing this guy. There's no lawsuit or litigation happening. It's just like, 'Ok. If you keep talking shit, it's going to be an issue.' "
snip
The dispute dates back to April of 2017, when Turtleboy interjected into a Twitter debate between Kweli and several anti-abortion Twitter users to accuse the hip-hop artist of "bragging" about paying child support.
Kweli responded by accusing Turtleboy of misrepresenting his statement and being racist, while the blog's Twitter account took shots at Kweli's career and suggested he was not being a "real dad" to his children.
Kweli then linked to a since-deleted post on the blog Buffalo Bruises, which alleged that Kearney had sexually harassed a woman at a game between the New England Patriots and the Buffalo Bills, leading to his termination from a teaching job at Shepherd Hill Regional High School.
Hip-hop star Talib Kweli has sued Worcester's controversial Turtleboy Sports blog for defamation, character assassination and cyber harassment -- though it is unclear whether the suit will proceed.
A few paragraphs later
There's no lawsuit or litigation happening. It's just like, 'Ok. If you keep talking shit, it's going to be an issue.' "
If you put the address into Google Maps and look at street view pictures from 2016 you can see the Graffiti predates the existence of Black Market ,and to me it looks like it just says "WHITE".
"lives matter" looks like it had been added.
Also, the Black Market Facebook page is gone.
Comments
What da frig
By capecoddah
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 1:01pm
THAT is what white identity is?
FACT - Someone claimed white identify was in the forefront.
That shit was *NEVER* in the forefront.
Tiki torches indeed. And the only Jew hating going on in this country worth noting is from the left wing media. Tons and tons of rich privileged white boys ARE Jews, you dink.
That is
By capecoddah
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 1:03pm
[quote]What is different about this iteration of white nationalism is how the movement is framing its ideas, and the place those ideas occupy in U.S. politics. One of the chants white nationalists repeatedly turned to as they marched in Charlottesville on Friday night and Saturday was “white lives matter” — a direct response to the “Black Lives Matter” movement that emerged after the killing of Michael Brown by Ferguson, Missouri, police in August 2014 and the resulting protests.[/quote]
That is white nationalism
Pay attention
Which is centered around
By boo_urns
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 12:06pm
having "white identity."
Don't be obtuse.
I would
By capecoddah
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 12:13pm
I would be less obtuse if people would stop using white nationalism as a definition for white identity.
Fact - Someone stated white identity was in the foreground and now is in the background
Fact - someone is trying to claim the definition of white identity is white nationalism
Fact - this would be much easier if someone would just define white identity
I didn't define it as white nationalism
By boo_urns
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 12:20pm
And just told you that white nationalism is born out of having an identify of that of being white. You're being obtuse and not fooling anyone. Again, what exactly is your end goal, here?
Yeah
By capecoddah
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 1:05pm
But that does NOT help me out with the one tiny question I posed:
What *is* white identity?
Refer to my other comment
By boo_urns
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 3:10pm
Where I ask you to try your hand at making a definition of it and we can go from there.
Hokay
By capecoddah
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 9:55pm
White - a Caucasian person
Identity - the fact of being who a person is.
White identity - the fact of being a Caucasian person.
Good work
By boo_urns
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 9:28am
Now see how that can be used by the white nationalists I cited above and how it could play into the graffiti in question. Not hard. I give every bit of credibility to the fact that fake hate speech has vandalized things before, but it's best not to hand wave it off so lightly.
We are halfway there
By capecoddah
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 11:05am
It can be, but white nationalism is fringe. VERY fringe.
A poster claimed white identity was in the forefront and now white identity is in the background but it is wanted and being actively fought for to be in the foreground again.
I will concede to the current existence of white proliferation, but NOT any sort of white identity beyond what is displayed by white nationalists. Most white people have a lot more important things to do than put the word white in front of things to make themselves feel better. I believe 99 percent of white people do not even think about being white.
White privilege does exist in the USA, but the whites have both fought themselves and worked together for eons to end up with it as a by-product. Playing victim did not produce too many privileged winners over the centuries and it is not going to work now. And speaking of white identity, how did that white nationalism work out for the Germans?
Here is a definition for you
By peter
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 11:51am
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lioning
Your comments fit the sealion pattern of trolling.
Even If you aren't purposely trolling, you're still acting like a troll and people will react accordingly.
I did not mention grafitti
By capecoddah
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 9:53am
None.
Graffiti is a low IQ thing and wrong.
Good answer!
By Brian Riccio
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 9:36am
Now I have a little more insight! Well done?
Advocates for us
By Stephen Bickerton Sr
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 9:21am
Are disappearing.
Just a typical white guy's observation
disappearing? Fck more if you consider it a problem
By anon
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 11:30am
If you consider it a problem, it's a problem of you own making. Don't worry white lives still over represent where it counts 9 of 13.
Are you related to this guy?
Good. RIP.
By Steeve
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 11:36am
Good. RIP.
Oh bitter tears!
By anon
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 1:08pm
Who, he asks, but WHO WILL SPEAK for the majority oppressor?
Poor little bunny.
Naw,
By whyaduck
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 3:33pm
you still have the current Republican Party.
We already know that white lives matter
By Rogue Informationist
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 11:32am
Our entire culture is full of white people and their lives mattering. How many things in this country are named after George Washington, one of the most famous white guys? We don't need to say that white lives matter because we can see it plainly in who runs companies, who is in our government, who is pictured on our currency (with the exception of the Sacajawea gold dollar coin), who we name things after, who is on television in starring roles, etc etc etc.
Black Lives Matter does not equal White Lives Don't Matter.
Black Lives Matter equals something like... Black Lives Should Matter Just As Much As White Lives But Often They Do Not And People of Color Especially Black People Tend to Face Violence At The Hands Of White Officers And In Other Situations Where Violence Would Not Be Used On White People.
Further, the phrase "White Lives Matter" has been trotted out in response to "Black Lives Matter" and has never been used otherwise.
In this case, defacing the property is not childish. Childish is spray painting a butt or "so-and-so is dumb." Spray painting "White Lives Matter" on a black-owned business is violence and possibly even classifiable as a hate crime. It is intended to wound. It is intended to denigrate. It is intended to cause fear in black people. It's wrong.
This is awful
By Stephanie
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 8:35am
This is awful, clearly a hate crime. To my fellow white people posting or thinking things like "all lives matter" or agreeing that "white lives matter," please stop. Saying that black lives matter doesn't mean that your life doesn't. Stop centering yourselves in this conversation. This isn't about you. We already know that white lives matter, given the advantages we as white people have in this country, just by existing- employment, housing, inherited wealth, education, protection by police, etc. Black people have NEVER been afforded the same advantages white people have always had in this country. Black lives matter, and if you feel the need to argue with this statement, you're part of the problem. Black lives matter.
Very well said, Steph!
By whyaduck
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 11:16am
And to add, those who do insist that "all lives matter" and/or "white lives matter" need to bone up their reading on black/white relations in this country since, oh, heck, since our beginning to the present day.
Can I get this on a t-shirt??
By RoseMai
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 12:27pm
Can I get this on a t-shirt??
Graffiti on the walls
By anon
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 9:09am
This is offensive as is most graffiti painted on the streets and subways of Boston. Lets see what happens if this person is identified. The courts in Boston don't take illegal guns, drug dealing or muggings seriously so if a person is charged he or she will probably mandated to take an art class at the Museum of Fine Arts.
important to document/photograph/compile all Street Art/Graffiti
By theszak
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 1:02pm
It's important to document/photograph/compile all Street Art/Graffiti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_art
Even the most reprehensible!
Another fake story
By Neal Jr
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 9:23pm
As reported hours ago on turtleboy, this story is about as fake as can be, a google maps street image from July showed this has been on the wall for at least 8 months. And it’s in a hardly noticeable spot behind a fence. And there’s a fancy graffiti mural on the building next store, that probably would cost money, unless you were the victim of a “crime”. But instead of invstigating, and seeking out facts, all of you spent 74 comments contemplating white provelage. The racial-industrial complex is alive and well in this sad city...
But ....
By adamg
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 10:07pm
You still see nothing wrong with "White Lives Matter" scrawled on a wall in Dudley Square?
It wasn't though
By JPNative617
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 7:30am
White was on the wall but lives matter was clearly added later for the cameras and publicity.
Ah yes
By anon
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 10:08am
The old "racism doesn't exist - people just make it up" nonsense.
Go back to your white hole, racism denier. Or, better yet, expend your efforts considering what people of color have to live through on a daily basis - including dealing with racist asses like you.
Turtleboy Is A Racist Cesspool
By Oscar Worthy
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 11:33pm
If anyone has never seen this despicable collection of racist garbage, check it out. It's Boston own little townie redneck Storm Front. Anyone who advertises with this little hate-filled pile of garbage should be boycotted for coming within 2 miles of these scumbags.
Worcester, not Boston
By Ron Newman
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 11:58pm
That web site is not our fault.
Been counting
By capecoddah
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 2:25am
In the last 12 months, fat ugly social justice warrior chick articles are running 37 white to 1 black.
That ain't racist.
Whoh
By anon
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 9:40am
You are either completely lacking in self awareness or a consummate racist sexist troll.
Why...
By lbb
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 11:28am
...can't it be both?
capecoddah is much more predictable than the MBTA, although I think it's a tossup between him and Roman for disingenuous sea-lion bullshit. Both are rancid racist trash, though. Too bad uhub doesn't have a block feature; they're given liberty to crap their racist sexist bullshit all over here.
Kweli responded by accusing Turtleboy of being racist
By anon
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 3:01am
I didn't know Aidan Kearney AKA TurtleBoySports lost his job as a teacher at Shepard Hill and had a beef on social media with Talib Kweli Greene
masslive:
Oh noes reporting
By capecoddah
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 6:45pm
A few paragraphs later
Worst
Reporting
Ever
Super Fishy
By StillFromDorchester
Thu, 04/19/2018 - 11:16pm
If you put the address into Google Maps and look at street view pictures from 2016 you can see the Graffiti predates the existence of Black Market ,and to me it looks like it just says "WHITE".
"lives matter" looks like it had been added.
Also, the Black Market Facebook page is gone.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/2148+Washington+...@42.3315867,-71.0821211,3a,15y,74.73h,83.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg6bumybX1xLwY6H4K6j2XQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e37a3b98061109:0x19d456db2f810ba0!8m2!3d42.331403!4d-71.081761
Black Market Facebook page
By Ron Newman
Fri, 04/20/2018 - 5:52pm
is back online
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