The All Rise Against Racism Bike Ride for Peace starts this Sunday at 2 p.m. at Dorchester Avenue and Park Street in Fields Corner, will then proceed around 3:30 p.m. to Adams and Chelmsford streets, where the screaming happened.
The black woman who got screamed at by that white guy is organizing the ride, says:
Our action optic will demonstrate that I and others, as citizens of Boston, have every right to live, walk, ride and stand in every neighborhood in this City.
The City of Boston has many races, which makes us a diverse and a multi cultural community. We can live as one. Anyone who is a part of this community should be able live and ride no matter our skin color, ethnicity or what bike we ride (smile).
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It's agreed--a certain amount of noise is expected in the city,
By mplo
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 5:03pm
but there are limitations. Nobody's preventing anybody from going out on ordinary motorcycle rides, but when they're going up and down a certain street, especially if they're about 200 hundred of them, motorcycles can be rather loud. Maybe the proprietors of the planned motorcycle protest should do some research on the noise law, and find out what the noise limit in the neighborhood is before going on with the protest.
One doesn't have to approve of Paul Sheehan's racist screaming and ranting to understand that.
How do you know how many
By dotratfromwayback
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 5:21pm
How do you know how many bikes are going to show up? How do you know these bikes will be going up and down a street? Maybe it's just one ride from point A to point B. What's with all the pearl clutching here?
Screaming engines
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 7:26am
Surely you’re not suggesting that this demonstration will involve motorcycles illegally modified to increase the noise they produce.
Loud pipes...
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 8:47am
... save lives. Because, “surely,” drivers these days are so great at operating vehicles without distractions. Pardon me and the rest of us on two wheels trying to live.
False
By BlackKat
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:28am
Loud pipes are just something that a certain segment of motorcycle riders like the sound of, to the detriment of the rest of the human and animal population. Any noise in the city that is louder than 70 decibles [50 at night], with only some exceptions for construction, is illegal in the city of Boston.
runway 27 at Logan
By bike nerd
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 10:31am
called and they want their noise ordinance back
“Certain segment.”
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 3:13pm
Funny how carefully selected words show a person’s true self. I bet that “certain segment” of folksy buskers playing at T stations doesn’t bother you in the least, though.
No
By BostonDog
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 6:29pm
T enforces the loudness rules. You won't go deaf from standing next to a busker. A modified motorcycle is well above the hearing loss threshold to anyone standing within 100-200'.
You could cause hearing loss to countless people but so long as you're happy it's OK, right?
Yes.
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 5:11pm
I love being happy and free from the burden of giving a shit. Also, apologies to everyone who decides to stick their ears directly next to my exhaust for a prolonged period of time.
May you never suffer from hearing loss
By BostonDog
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 6:27pm
I do give a shit about others. Guess I'm not cool.
Huh?
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 6:38pm
What?
Driving safely
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:52am
Saves lives.
Loud pipes just tell others you don’t care about the law or other people.
Through experience...
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 3:00pm
... riding motorcycles (all makes) over the past 20 or so years, I have been rear-ended, t-boned, side-swiped and otherwise nearly killed more times than I can count. Since installing (yes, loud) aftermarket exhausts three years ago, I have been fortunate to not have one single incident - I can literally see drivers now look twice when they hear me coming.
At the risk of inconveniencing your peace and quiet for all of a few seconds, I’m going to keep my pipes loud and make it home alive every night.
Cool story bro
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 4:01pm
Sorry your fellow motorists had such bad aim.
Somebody feeling uncomfortable?
By anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 4:18pm
Face it: you don't like motorcycles or black people, and the combination is driving you crazy.
Look at your assumptions: ANY motorcycle is "loud" - not true. Motorcycles in a group - particularly when ridden by black people = illegal.
Get over yourself. Get some earplugs. Grow up. People engaging in legal activities at legal times in legal places is not gonna bother your bad suburban self.
One doesn't have to live in the suburbs to disapprove of such
By mplo
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 11:35am
a stupid protest that creates even more noise pollution. Come on, now.
Your parrot
By anon
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 11:57am
creates noise pollution
Prove that motorcycles always create noise pollution. You are probably assuming that they will because urban + black = illegal in your mind.
Oh, come off of your bullshit, anon!
By mplo
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 5:09pm
First of all, you know nothing about my parrot.
Secondly, I live in a very pet-friendly building, which I'm more than glad of.
Thirdly, parrots also have their quite times, as well.
Fourth: I cover my parrot's cage at night.
It has nothing to do with being urban and black, or anything or anybody, for that matter..
It does, however, have something to do with the fact that all areas have laws regarding noise level limits, and with good reason. One doesn't have to approve of Paul Sheehan's racist assholish behavior to realize that.
Cool karma, bro.
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 5:15pm
Wishing death and/or injury on others is the mark of a stellar human being.
Of course
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 6:16pm
Other motorists should aim to miss you. It’s the police who should aim to stop you.
You wish harm on others every time you fart your modified toy down the street. You brag about not caring. And then you have a snit fit when someone hints your attitude may be reciprocated.
Get a real bike and you might improve your fitness as well as reduce your unpleasantness to the rest of the world.
You know me...
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 6:41pm
... SO well.
Or you could go without riding a vehicle that gets hit often
By Daan
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 8:55am
Your choice to generate noise pollution to avoid being hit is based on a right to ride a motorcycle. Your right to ride a motorcycle does not include a right to create noise pollution and disturb neighbors.
Assuming a right to riding a motorcycle means a right to make noise pollution is a selfish and self-centered model of reasoning.
The reasoning boils down to "I do it because I want to."
Reasons to own a motorbike
By anon
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 12:16pm
1. fuel economy
2. easy storage
3. does not take up massive space for one or two people
4. maneuverability
5. inexpensive - can buy with cash
6. repairability
7. enjoy riding it
8. legal to operate
9. legal to operate
10. legal to operate
Grow up and get over yourself, pops.
Or you could go without riding a vehicle that gets hit often
By Daan
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 8:55am
Your choice to generate noise pollution to avoid being hit is based on a right to ride a motorcycle. Your right to ride a motorcycle does not include a right to create noise pollution and disturb neighbors.
Assuming a right to riding a motorcycle means a right to make noise pollution is a selfish and self-centered model of reasoning.
The reasoning boils down to "I do it because I want to."
And...
By Andrew
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 6:35pm
... women who dress provacatively are “asking for it,” right?
You’re a moron.
If noise makes you violent
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 7:13pm
Do you abuse your children for making any? Beat your wife for running the hedge trimmer? Give your mother a black eye for laughing or eating too loud?
You sound like you need professional help.
Tell that to car drivers who
By dotratfromwayback
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:14pm
Tell that to car drivers who refuse to share the road with bikes, motorized or not.
Proven false
By Daan
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 8:52am
Loud pipes do not save lives. They just create misery for the people who are subjected to the noise pollution.
Let’s see...
By Andrew
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 6:38pm
... your proof.
Actually, forget it, me being alive is all the proof I need.
Suggested stops
By anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 8:17am
Savin Hill station where a young black man named Atkins was chased and beaten by angry whites and he was chased down the tracks he was later killed by a red line train.
Fields Corner station where for years Vietnamese immigrants where robbed and beaten by angry blacks for years.
Shawmut station where white females over the past several years have been robbed as they walked down the paths from the station.
Ashmont where young black students are kicked out of the station and where black skateboarders are kicked out of the plaza for skating while black by the Transit Police.
The last stop on the tour should be the Gentlemen's pub the Eire where for years neither women or people of color were welcomed.
Lets be fair and honest about this issue Dorchester has a lot to be proud of but when the new kid on the block moves into the neighborhood they are often bullied and targeted by loud mouths like Mr. Sheehan who is not indicative of the people of Dorchester. If you don't believe me just ask Marky Mark.
Lot of stories there
By Scauma
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 8:43am
How recent are they? I don't remember the one about the person at Savin Hill, nor have I seen many white women getting off the train at Shawmut. Not saying you're pulling things out of thin air, but I'd be curious to learn more about them.
The man who was killed was
By Robert Paulson
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 8:56am
The man who was killed was named William Atkinson.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/19...
He led with an incident from 1982?
By Waquiot
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:10am
I guess we can say that things have improved greatly if something from 1982 is the biggest thing people should be thinking about.
Or you could say that every
By Robert Paulson
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 10:26am
Or you could say that every street in Boston has a long history and in many instances violent hateful things occurred there.
Shawmut
By anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:00am
Scauma, you said
I use Shawmut station a lot. I've seen thousands of white women getting off the train, and not surprisingly I've seen black and Asian women too, and to a lesser extent Latinas. I dont know what you're trying to say.
Btw, there was an incident a couple of months ago where a white woman was robbed. I am not aware of the race of the robber.
I meant to say getting robbed
By Scauma
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 12:04pm
But touche. I lived on Wainwright for quite some time so I used Shawmut plenty. And I really wasn't trying to imply that anon was making things up, just that I haven't heard those stories.
I support the theme But,
By Anthony
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 8:20am
I certainly support the movement however please make sure other people do not hijacked what you're standing for and for the movement.
Unfortunately in some positive movements the pureness of the original theme and the reason to mobilize can get hijacked and transform to something that is more dividing and separate.
It certainly was one of the most disturbing moments in Boston's racial history.
And I support anything that unites all people.
Way to "support the movement"
By lbb
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:24am
...by borrowing trouble and cautioning people who are actually doing something that they must not be "dividing and separate".
99 Decibels is the law for idling motorcycles in MA
By John Costello
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 8:21am
Motorcycles may not exceed 82 decibels when running under 45 mph. This applies on Adams Street and other Boston streets where the speed limit is 25 mph unless otherwise posted.
I’m sure the BPD will do their best to enforce this riule on Sunday. Just like the rules are being applied to the prosecution of Paul Sheehan. An individual committed a crime and is being punished.
Because we are all accepting of an entire neighborhood being sullied by the actions of one, correct?
If you support this rally, then you would have been accepting of all of Inman Square being forced to endure a rally to protest the actions of the Tzarnaevs, right?
Many hundreds of people are going to have to endure a disruptive Sunday owing to the actions of one. This is called collective punishment. If you are ok with it because it fits your narrative, then fine, but I disagree with you.
Thanks...
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 8:48am
... for the tip, officer.
Also, Collective Punishment Is Being Administered Here
By John Costello
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:53am
A lot of people are going to have their Sunday afternoons filled with unnecessary engine noise because of the actions of one person.
Paul Sheehan was arrested for yelling and screaming and for racial intimidation here. Adams Corner was not.
Paul Sheehan will be prosecuted for what he did. The law is working here.
One law is working
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 10:14am
If demonstrators line up the motorcycles and police go down the line writing $300 tickets for all the illegally modified ones, then another law will be working.
Ah, selective enforcement!
By anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 11:29am
Nothing says racism like selective enforcement.
When I see the line of NH plated hogs at downtown construction sites emblazoned with such tickets, or I see a line of white guys on hogs on I-93 being pulled over and ticketed, I might be willing to believe that you are not being a inspectional racist about this.
But I think your problem is with the riders, not the bikes.
When I see
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 3:57pm
I will think a good start has been made.
But don’t let me interrupt your race-baiting. It’s obviously your only joy and mastery.
So Adams Corner suffers the
By Pref Anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 10:37am
So Adams Corner suffers the punishment of. . . a motorcycle meetup and cookout? Oh the humanity.
Moral Hazard
By anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 12:20pm
Can't you see the moral hazard here? Those uppity people, acting like non-uppity people, protest ...
I'm sure they will be beating drums at that cookout, too! DRUMS!
Did you say ... a Cookout???
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 12:57pm
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I don't give a shit about a cook-out. That's one thing.
By mplo
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 9:13pm
Having motorcycles idling on a street corner for a long time, however, is not a smart idea.
Okay
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 9:23pm
You can always have the cops be your personal ... anti-noise valets.
Agreed
By Melissa
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 10:51am
Along with anyone attending a wake at the funeral home located there as well.
And for those parties on the
By baustin
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:51am
And for those parties on the other side of this, 0 decibels is the law for screaming racist epithets in MA.
Almost correct
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 9:57am
Regardless of decibel level idling, redlining, traveling at x speed, or in any other condition, operating a motorcycle in the city of Boston without the EPA sticker on the pipes is against the law, and carries a $300.00 fine.
Oh, I see
By anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 11:30am
Black people on bikes = enforcement
White people on bikes = no enforcement
Trucks jaking on hills or during aggressive braking = truck drivers are sacred!
Why do you assume that POC
By anon
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 12:39pm
Why do you assume that POC will not be participating in the motorcycle ride through Dot?
That's like assuming that all motorcycle riders are MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters. Is that what you think?
Newsflash! POC and women do ALL sorts of things!
Just stop stereotyping people.
Sounds like a plan
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 1:59pm
You just let us know which special group should get a pass today from following the law and we’ll give you a special pin for being the right kind of special.
"special group"?
By lbb
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 3:42pm
Did you miss the part where the previous poster said that white folks on motorcycles are already getting a pass? But when anyone else does, they become a "special group", is that it? And white people are just "people"?
I haven’t missed
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 4:59pm
The lack of enforcement of laws regarding illegal modification of motorcycles. This policing failure has principally benefited white men, as such are the overwhelming majority of motorcyclists. It should stop.
Yes, your rant is all about
By dotratfromwayback
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 7:16pm
Yes, your rant is all about the law. It has nothing to do with your dislike of motorcycles.
Sock Puppet...
By Andrew
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 7:41pm
... also tends to generalize and stereotype like most other “r-words.”
Jake Brake
By roadman
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 4:14pm
is a Federally mandated SAFETY DEVICE. Or would you rather have trucks losing control on downgrades and slamming into houses or other cars.
This irrational "war on any and all noise" is getting way out of hand. People need to get a life.
I'd rather...
By lbb
Tue, 08/14/2018 - 4:29pm
I'd rather that people like you not fall prey to the false dichotomy of having to choose between jake brakes and out of control trucks. Trucks are also equipped with these SAFETY DEVICES known as "friction brakes". That's what they should be using, and not relying on jake brakes to save their friction brakes.
With all due respect
By frobot
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 9:22am
You have no idea what you're talking about. Trucks haul up to 80,000 lbs. Their friction brakes can be overwhelmed rather easily, especially on a long downslope. Why do you think we have runaway truck ramps? Plus, in an emergency situation, the friction brakes can easily lock up and lead to a jackknifed truck/trailer. Some drivers might use their jake brakes more often than they should, but they are far from unnecessary.
If you are jaking in the city
By anon
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 9:18am
You are driving too fast.
With all due respect
By lbb
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 9:22am
Actually, son, I do. I observe trucks using jake brakes all the time outside my home, in a 30 mph zone, where there is no "long downslope" and no conceivable excuse for friction brakes being "overwhelmed".
Nice strawman demolition. Now clean up your mess and admit that I never said they were "unnecessary". Their USE is frequently unnecessary.
You didn't use the word "unnecessary"
By frobot
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 9:39am
But it sure seemed to be implied based on the conversation. Let's recap:
Anon mentions (in a complainy way)
These are exactly the scenarios where jake brakes are useful.
roadman reminds anon that a jake brake
And he again mentions downgrades.
It seems to me that we were talking about trucks using their jake brakes on hills or in emergency situations when you replied, implying that they could use their friction brakes in such situations. Next time, try to be more clear that you're changing the subject to your residential street.
Sorry about your confusion
By lbb
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 4:48pm
I thought this discussion was all about events taking place in residential neighborhoods, not in a goat pasture at the end of a downgrade in the White Mountains. I'll be more clear next time.
We were
By frobot
Thu, 08/16/2018 - 7:31am
until anon took us on this tangent.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It doesn't matter who the people on the motorcycles are, or what
By mplo
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 11:48am
they look like. A stupid idea is a stupid idea, no matter who plans and carries it out.
No, it doesn't
By anon
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 12:01pm
Because being black is legal and riding a motorcycle is legal and your opinion of motorcycles indicates that you have unaddressed mental health challenges that you need to address.
Address in ways other than throwing online tantrums far from the proposed route and demanding that the rights of others to ride motorcycles be curtailed.
Speak for yourself, anon!
By mplo
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 5:22pm
This:
Is one of the stupidest posts full of bull shit I've ever read online. You and lots of other people don't seem to realize that creating extra noise pollution isn't the way to go about promoting a cause, no matter how important it is. I admittedly don't live in the neighborhood in question, nor do I know Paul Sheehan, but if I did live in the area in question, I'd be pissed off at loud motorcycles riding up and down the street as a way of protest also, because it creates noise pollution.
It seems that you're the one who's having a temper tantrum right now, and have mental health problems that need to be addressed.
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