City Councilor Michelle Wu (at large) says a rapidly growing Boston can no longer simply dole out unlimited free resident parking permits to residents and wants the city to start charging $25 per annual sticker - with exemptions for senior citizens, low-income residents and home-health and BPS staff who make regular home visits.
Wu's proposal, which the City Council will consider tomorrow, would also create, for the first time, a visitor pass, good for 72 hours - at a cost of $10 per visit.
"The current system is ineffective at managing curbside space in a manner that is fair and accessible to all who need to park on-street overnight," she writes in her proposal.
Boston has long doled out the permits for free - and has limited visitors to small numbers of spaces that are often taken by residents.
In her proposed ordinance - which they council will likely send to a committee for a hearing and study - Wu says that's no longer feasible when the Boston's population has increased by 100,000 since 1980 and number of permits in the city has increased 25% over the past ten years in a city that now has at least 300 households with five or more cars registered to them.
Her proposal also includes a way for the city to designate new areas for permitted parking, without waiting for residents to file petitions for them.
In her request for a hearing, she says the current system particularly benefits well off residents:
The current system to establish resident parking zones requires residents to self-organize and collect signatures from at least 51% of adult residents who live on the affected streets. Through this system, neighborhoods with resources and time have an advantage, which only perpetuates systemic inequities. ... More than half of households without vehicles have annual incomes less than
$25,000. Only 7% of zero-vehicle households make over $100,000
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Probably due to historic usage
By ScottB
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:55pm
Before Southie became the next hot place to live, the impetus for resident parking restrictions was likely deterring commuters from parking in the neighborhood and taking the Red Line or bus to their places of work. If parking was readily available on weekends, there would be less need to restrict it at those times, and there are pluses to not restricting parking in low-demand times if visitor permits aren't something the City offers.
20 years ago, much of the SoWa area was wide-open for parking. No street cleaning, no resident parking restrictions (apart from a couple of streets), not even any parking meters. Every single space was taken on weekdays (mostly commuters to downtown and BMC) but at nights or on weekends you could park pretty much wherever.
In my neighborhood (Savin
By tape
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:32pm
In my neighborhood (Savin Hill area), the hours are 10A-6P M-F, because we have a huge problem of people using the neighborhood as a free commuter parking lot for the JFK and Savin Hill T stops. It becomes difficult to park in general but on street cleaning days it's downright impossible. Unfortunately only some of the streets/blocks have successfully petitioned the city for permit-only parking so half the neighborhood is still an insane free-for-all.
In Southie, I believe the hours were set up as overnight because the bigger parking concern there is that there's not enough room anymore for residents to park overnight at their homes.
Every neighborhood has its own concerns and the restricted times are a reflection of that.
I would sign!
By Living in Southie
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 10:01am
I've been in Southie since 2005 and it's out of control now. Have a visitor over the weekend? Have them park at the Black Falcon garage and uber in. They shouldn't get resident spots when there aren't enough spots for residents.
Why shouldn't residents have
By anon
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 3:25pm
Why shouldn't residents have to Uber from Black Falcon?
This is SO off the mark.....
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 1:42pm
So I am already paying property tax and excise tax, now I will have to spend 75 bucks to park my cars in front of my house? Classic Democrat move. "
She states that our parking system is not working - and her (typical Democrat) solution is to tax people and make their lives more difficult.
If someone has to "circle the block" then tough shit. Taxing people is not going to reduce cars.
I live in Boston and travel for work (so I need a car). My house is within the resident sticker zone from the mbta stop. So I should be penalized for that?
If the city council wants to be "fair", require it for every car parked on a city street overnight. There is your "equity".
Also, this plan on it's face will ensure less parking for residents in high congestion areas. If someone can buy a guest pass for $10 (good for 72 hours), good luck finding spaces now. Under the guest pass, every area of Back Bay, South End, Fenway, Brighton, Charlestown, Southie, etc. will have non residents parking in resident spots for 72 hours at a clip.
We can't expect our leaders to tackle real problems like a shitty mbta, instead they just tax hard working Bostonians.
Oh and guess what, as the residential wave continues out to all areas of the city (especially along train lines), resident parking will be coming there too. So her comment about Mattapan is a lie.
Want a solution?, create a guest pass, but make it $25 per day, that way RESIDENTS aren't penalized for parking in front of their own houses, and their own neighborhoods.
Just rediculous. Enough.
Classic "fiscal" conservative viewpoint
By spin_o_rama
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:35pm
You currently don't pay the true cost of driving and it forces taxpayers that don't drive to make up the difference, sorry Charlie.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...
https://commonwealthmagazine.org/transportation/re...
Socialism is for me, not for thee, amirite? But I thought there was no such thing as a free lunch?
darn fiscal conservatives...
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:22pm
how rude, wanting to keep more of the money I earn, right?
The true cost of driving? SO is this about driving? or about parking? How is additional taxing of Boston residents of going to fix Mass State Roads, and bridges, and the MBTA? BTW - the MBTA should look at their failing "20 and out" pension system, and their broken down trains (and stations) before they support the taxation of residents with cars.
Newsflash - the majority of people drive in this state, and just because my street requires resident stickers (while the next block over doesn't), I should not be taxed again to park in front of my own house. I LIVE here and already pay taxes in the process.
This is another example of out-of-touch progressive pols trying another money grab - and sticking it to working people.
If Michelle Wu wants to take the bus and the train to work at city hall that is fine, and I am sure she has a car as well. But not everyone who lives in Boston also works in Boston. And I should not be penalized because I want to park in from of my own home.
And why is she proposing only the taxation of areas of the city with resident stickers? Shouldn't all residents of Boston need resident stickers then? and shouldn't all of them be taxed? Also, cyclists are using the roads as well, via dedicated lanes. Time to start a registration process and taxation of them as well, right? they are using the same roads, and bridges after all.
Crying about handouts while receiving handouts
By spin_o_rama
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:21pm
You can't go about complaining about increasing costs to store your private vehicle on public roads, when you currently don't pay enough for the usage of those public roads. Driving and parking are connected bud.
I don't see you really offering up any solutions to addressing how we are going to fund the maintenance of our states roads, thats not even mentioning expansion and upgrades to the current system. As has been said before, you don't pay enough to cover your usage of the roads to a point where our funding for highways is insolvent. So why should those of us that can't use those highways pay for your ride? We also subsidize your gas so thats nice but keep telling me you pay enough.
I agree though, expand the parking permit to all city neighborhoods and streets. Why should we be allowing valuable public property to be used at well below market rate? Again, doesn't sound very fiscally conservative to me.
Also you keep jumping between the state residents and Boston residents, which is it? The demographics of urban car ownership obviously will greatly differ with the suburbs but why should valuable public property be set aside, for free? Again, why are you asking car-free households to subsidize those that drive? Doesn't sound very conservative to me.
But the bike point is interesting to make. Cyclists are often licensed drivers, so there goes that point. Also when the costs of providing the sliver of bike infrastructure come anywhere near what we spend for all the highways/roads/bridges that only cars can use, maybe we can talk about that. You want me to pay excise tax? Cool, where should I send my $3 check? Oh and registering and taxing them is just creating even more bureaucracy for something that children can ride, I thought you people were all about limited government?
"store your private vehicle on public road" just wow
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:43pm
"store your private vehicle on public road" just wow
reality - parking on a neighborhood side street in front of (or near) my home.
your "reality" - storing my private vehicle on a public road
your logic is frightening, but also amusing.
This is a clear money grab - plain and simple.
The city can barely plow my street - but let's increase taxes! that will fix it.
This is nothing but a money
By Lmo
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 10:54pm
This is nothing but a money grab. Show me a real plan before bringing it to the city council. If she truly wanted this plan to work, it would be city wide. Permit all neighborhoods. Count all parking spots in each neighborhood and only assign enough permits for the amount of actual spots. Make Boston city wide permits.
The city would never follow through with any of this. The city councilors always find a way of taking a little bit more of our money and wasting it. They haven’t had a raise yet this year, must be coming up.
Wow indeed, reality check time
By kisumxes
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 3:52am
Do you own the road in front of your house? Do you live off a private right-of-way?
No? -> public road
Is your car immobile when it’s parked in front of your house, thereby preventing others from using the space it occupies?
Yes -> storage
Does your car belong to you or your bank?
Yes -> private property
Welcome to reality.
You sound like one of those
By tofu
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 10:43am
You sound like one of those people who moves into a townhome area with an HOA - which owns everything from the studs in your walls out - and then starts complaining that HOA rules forbid you from putting up flags, Christmas decorations, or doing car repairs on their property.
Your private space ends at the surveyed line of your lot. Your 'neighborhood street' IS public property, you ARE storing your car there, and you are NOT entitled to do so indefinitely.
what about shoveling? hmmmm
By Roztonian
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 3:06pm
what about shoveling? hmmmm
like if I don't shovel the "public walkway" in front of my house, I get fined by the city.
weird right?
Seems to me
By kisumxes
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:34pm
it’s rather rude to ask the taxpayers to continue to subsidize your driving to the tune of somewhere around $.30 driven.
Seems to me the proper fiscally conservative thing to do would be to call for an increase in vehicle excise duty and gas tax to the point where all costs caused by motor vehicle traffic are covered.
Here’s a good read: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...
P.S. you can’t reduce driving without reducing parking. So yes, this is about parking, so it’s also about driving.
Circling the block looking
By aaron.s.weber@g...
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:07pm
Circling the block looking for parking creates traffic slowdowns and poor air quality, leading to increased medical costs & deaths in the neighborhood. Why not use a free-market mechanism: Set a number of permits equal to the number of available spaces, and hold an auction?
Isn't that the free-market conservative approach?
what the actual hell?
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:34pm
Hold an auction so I can park on my own street?
Anything else you want to place the government in charge of?
Mother of gawd.
Newsflash, there are MANY areas of Boston that require resident sticker because of their proximity to MBTA stations - which is done to deter people from coming in from the burbs and taking resident spots all day long (not to mention sidestepping MBTA parking lot fees). It is not always about congestion. I don't have a hard time parking in front of my house, but now I need to pay to do so?
It's not "your street"
By Lunchbox
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:53pm
The City owns the street. You're parking there by the generosity of the City.
Yes, we’re only responsible
By Lmo
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:12pm
Yes, we’re only responsible for shoveling and keeping the sidewalk clean 365 days a year. Thanks so much for your generosity ol’city.
exactly
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:26pm
exactly - UHUB commentators love the "its not your street" argument.
But gawd forbid someone doesn't shovel their sidewalk within a reasonable time, then they magically own it. People can't wait to whip out their iPhones and send a 311 complaint.
unreal
Commenters.
By Lmo
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 10:58pm
I’m interested to know the parking practices of the cities/towns they are from or if they even had cars in those cities and towns?
I'm in Somerville, where we
By aaron.s.weber@g...
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:39am
I'm in Somerville, where we charge a modest fee ($40) for an annual parking permit and an additional fee to get a visitor pass ($20-40).
The price per permit does not escalate with the number of permits issued, nor is the number of permits restricted by capacity. My household has one car which is parked on the street-- it's my wife's, which she is required to have for her job as a field sales rep.
Im not talking about where
By Lmo
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:56am
Im not talking about where people live now, I mean where they grew up.
Why?
By spin_o_rama
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 1:04pm
You wanna do this don't you?
https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha
No
By Lmo
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 1:52pm
I’m genuinely curious. I know you get your rocks off from anything having to do with cars, but jeez.
Nah
By spin_o_rama
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:08am
I get my rocks off from anything having to do with bikes, you missed a good chance to say I have temper tantrums about cars.
I don't believe you're genuinely curious, I think its to troll. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean yeah, thats kinda how being a property owner works
By spin_o_rama
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 1:04pm
If you don't shovel the sidewalk that your neighbors use in reasonable amount of time, why are they the bad person for calling you out to 311? They just don't want their mobility impacted by your selfishness.
If you don't like how the law works, you're more than welcome as a property owner to organize a campaign to change this system. Hey maybe you'll find a way for the city to clear sidewalks for everyone so its not just road users getting reliable snow removal.
thanks for proving my point.
By Roztonian
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 3:22pm
so I don't own the street (public space), so I have no say about where I can park
and I don't own the sidewalk (public space), but I do own it when it snows - and it's my responsibility to shovel it
cool, cool.
Its a stupid point though
By spin_o_rama
Thu, 04/25/2019 - 9:36am
Our tax dollars pay to have the snow removed from the road. They don't pay to have it removed from sidewalks, in general.
So if its not property owners, whos doing it? The city? Cool, whos paying for it? Oh why not charge property owners!
Congratulations, we found a way to make sure you don't have to be responsible for it. You still should have to pay for your parking permit too.
IMO we should fix that too
By eherot
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:15pm
IMO we should fix that too while we're at it...
Paying to park on your own street? Certainly not.
By DRock
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:25pm
If you own the street, the city can't make you pay to park there.
Imagine that
By kisumxes
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:41pm
In Japan, you don‘t roll off the dealer lot until you’ve registered your off-street parking space with the RMV and the police have stopped by and measured out the space you claim to have to verify that the car you want to buy actually fits there.
[i]Your[/i] street belongs to the public, what in the actual hell makes you think you have some sort of enshrined right to store your private property on the public’s right-of-way?
Didn't you catch the part
By erik g
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 6:13pm
where he/she used "Democrat" as a pejorative? We got us a genuine Republican here: totally opposed to anyone getting anything without paying market price for it, riiiiiight up until you mention that "anyone" means "everyone" and the city isn't going to make a special exemption for his/her delicate snowflake self.
Our leadership is all democrat
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 8:00pm
And and uncontolled taxing of people is not going to solve anything in Boston.
"Republican? Snowflake" nnnnope. Wrong and wrong.
Just against "progressive" Democrat pols who think the way to fix things is to take more of my money - and in the process, make things worse.
Not looking for an exemption, I already pay property tax.
And guess what - there are a lot of people like me out there Erik. Socially liberal, hard-working, fiscally-conservative folks who don't want their money wasted on rediculous money grabs that will do nothing to solve issues in the city.
Don't hurt yourself trying to wrap your brain around that one snowflake.
Keep up your (any differing opinions is an evil Republican) narrative though, it's been going pretty well for yah.
Haha.
I don‘t want my money
By kisumxes
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 6:58am
wasted on ridiculous money grabs that do nothing to solve the issues in the city either. I’m thinking of property taxes that are higher than they need to be because the city basically gives away valuable real estate to special snowflakes that love to cry about muh parking.
I don‘t want billions and billions of tax dollars wasted on six-lane traffic sewers that dissect neighborhoods, cause drainage issues and pollution because special snowflakes like you are too snowflake-y to take the Ⓣ or ride a bike for their trips under 5 miles (which applies to more trips in the city than you’d think).
It’s great that MA kinda sort has something resembling universal health care but I hate that more and more of my health care premiums go towards treating and curing preventable obesity, and respiratory and coronary diseases because special snowflakes like you are too special to take the Ⓣ or ride a bike for their trips under 5 miles (which applies to more trips in the city than you’d think). This applies even more so to all those killed and injured in motor vehicle crashes.
You want to solve issues in the city? Reducing car use does exactly that for all the issues above (and quite a few more - housing costs could be lower if not for minimum parking requirements and a pearl-clutching fear of mixed-use high density zoning)
reducing cars would also help
By anon
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:53am
reducing cars would also help open up bike use for people like me, who aren't opposed, but who's regular commutes would be extremely dangerous to bike on due to the rampant speeding, light running, and lawbreaking. I take the bus instead but on nice days it'd be awesome to have a more flexible option... just not awesome enough to potentially die for it
Not every one is a democrat.
By NOTsamWalton
Sat, 04/27/2019 - 4:56pm
Someone on city council may be either "Unrolled" or possibly a Republican. To place 5th in the at large race does not take a lot of votes.
Ummm
By spin_o_rama
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:48pm
In this thread you've literally called for creating a whole new bureaucracy to license and register bicycles but go off
that wind over your head...whoosh
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:58pm
yes, that was called sarcasm - but don't let that keep you from furthering you disdain for evil car owners.
for those in the back, we don't need more bureaucracy, and the city does not need to be charging for resident parking stickers.
is that clear enough?
My goodness
By erik g
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 11:09pm
1. Register an account, anon; there might be lots of people out there saying equally dumb things in your name, and how are we to tell?
2. If you have to explain your sarcasm to the back row, it means you’re not clever enough to use sarcasm on the internet. We’ll let you have your privileges back right after you register that account, and after you answer literally a single question that’s been thrown your way in this thread
Ah you used sarcasm cause you had no point to make
By spin_o_rama
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 1:07pm
So you want to continue the free parking for motorists because charging them is unfair. Gotcha.
Park in your driveway or STFU
By Parkwayne
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:29pm
That's how they roll in Brookline - why not here?
Might be the first time I've agreed with a (R)
By Scauma
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:38pm
I for the life of me cannot understand why these people want MORE taxes on top of the taxes you already pay. I thought excise taxes were for road maintenance and upkeep? And we all benefit from useable roads, even if you don't drive yourself.
excise taxes dedicated for roads? nope
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:53pm
they go into a "general fund" which means you will generally never see a benefit.
But those taxes and fees don't cover the true cost
By spin_o_rama
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 4:32pm
We have a revenue shortfall of $6.4 billion over the next ten years to take care of. How is that being addressed without increasing usage fees?
So sure I benefit from roads even if I only occasional drive but those that drive daily are not being made to pay the true cost and as a result its subsidized by other, non-driving taxpayers.
People want better transit options and when one option is so overwhelmingly subsidized that it is presented as the most convenient and financially viable option, its not shocking to see it win out over public transportation. And lets not forget active measures from the fossil fuel and car industry that continue to fight against public transit.
And while public transit itself is subsidized and in a budget crisis of its own, we understand it as a benefit to society that riders are being asked year after year to pay more and more for. Why can't it be the same for motorists?
Ever pay a water bill?
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:05pm
You get charged for what you use from the public supply.
Ditto with being charged for parking.
Funny you mention water
By merlinmurph
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 6:57pm
Water services are also subsidized, along with sewer.
Makes the point even stronger
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 8:14pm
Something can still be subsidized and you can still pay for what you use.
At $25 a vehicle, parking is still subsidized.
Something can still be
By merlinmurph
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 7:31am
Which drivers do thru gas taxes, excise taxes, tolls, etc.
FWIW, my taxes go towards subsidizing the MWRA, yet we have private water and sewer. You don't hear me whining.
And whatever people are paying for water is a steal, i.e. subsidized, far below market rate. Water is the next oil.
Because the current system
By eherot
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 5:16pm
Because the current system results in poor allocation of supply and everyone constantly complaining about parking shortages. Charging what the spaces are worth works for literally everything else, why can't we do it for parking?
You are a welfare brat. You
By Kinopio
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 10:46pm
You are a welfare brat. You have gotten free storage for years yet you act like an ungrateful child. Why don't you provide storage for your personal property yourself instead of relying on a handout?
A welfare brat? That’s a new
By Lmo
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 11:02pm
A welfare brat? That’s a new one.
The excise tax should be reduced to those who pay
By StillFromDorchester
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:02pm
If this passes they should deduct the fee from your excise tax. No need for the city to double dip.
That's too reasonable
By Scauma
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:25pm
And the bike brigade hates all things car related. I can only imagine the joy this site experienced with this article.
{whispers} Many people who
By SamJ
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 11:37am
{whispers} Many people who regularly ride bikes also own cars....
What would be the point of
By anon
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:25pm
What would be the point of that? The city would collect the same amount of money, and it would be a lot more work.
How would it be the same?
By StillFromDorchester
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:45pm
You pay 25 dollars less in excise tax if you get a resident parking sticker, they dont get an extra 25 dollars from your pocket.
You still pay for the sticker but you could use the savings from the excise tax to pay for it.
The point would be to let
By Scauma
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:40pm
Some of the citizens keep a little more money in their pocket. That's essentially double taxation.
Double taxation would be rebating the fee
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 8:16pm
Otherwise, you are charging property tax on driveways and then charging people who have driveways more on their excise tax.
Up the cost of each permit- then hire Sunday 'Meter' people
By a frustrated ca...
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:02pm
I have a city car and would welcome paying for the permit if the city will staff ticketing personnel 7 days a week. Better yet...7 X 24.
I live near the Garden and using the car or returning to the city on Sundays is a nightmare when the Bruins or Celtics are in town.
Suburbanites know the city does not ticket on Sundays so they park on surrounding streets. Just about every parking spot is taken by a non-resident. We make it easy for them to head back to the suburbs as they do not have to wait in line to exit the parking garage.
Calls to 311 end with 'Sorry, we don't ticket on Sundays'.
Love the visitor parking pass- particularly if you can order it online.
you would "welcome" paying to park where you live?
By Roztonian
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:47pm
you would "welcome" paying to park where you live?
why? you already pay taxes right? why welcome additional taxes when you will never see a benefit?
if there is a spot, and you live in the neighborhood, you should park in the spot - pretty simple.
I am all for the visitor pass - create revenue from people wanting to visit Boston, instead of from people who actually live here / and pay taxes here.
if somebody from the burbs wants to come into my neighborhood, hit the bars, and stay the weekend, then they should pay to do so. no problem there.
Paying to store your private property
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 8:18pm
I do that - it is called "having a driveway".
If you want to play this "my car is sacred and I get to park on the street" game, be ready for your carfree neighbors to start demanding equal plots of space for patios and gardens and storage units just because they live there, too.
Cars are private property - they don't give you special rights to public property.
equal plots of space for patios and gardens and storage units???
By Roztonian
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 3:35pm
"my car is sacred and I get to park on the street, game"?
What the actual hell are you talking about? Haha, it's funny to read
"get ready for equal plots of space for patios and gardens and storage units"?
In my 40 plus years of living in Boston, I have never seen anything close to this.
Sweet argument though.
BTW - Wu's petition got smashed in the Council.
Have a nice day.
Cambridge, Somerville, and
By aaron.s.weber@g...
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:40am
Cambridge, Somerville, and many other cities charge for parking permits. It's not even controversial.
100% for this
By anon
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:09pm
Parking in different neighborhoods since the 90s - don't mind paying for a permit at all. But the city then has to pony up and enforce it better and make those tickets high enough to discourage parking without one in all neighborhoods. They tend to look the other way in some of the more touristy areas (but will ticket residents who are an inch - literally - past a no parking past this point sign or more than 3 inches from the curb). So many cars in my neighborhood now (Allston) never move except when forced to by street sweeping.
So getting a 51% petition is
By anon
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:30pm
So getting a 51% petition is too much work for residents to grab exclusive use of a public resource at the expense of nonresidents, and the city needs to eliminate this one task which guarantees the rules will be approved?
How much work is it for nonresidents to fight a permit parking petition, or make a permit street unrestricted again?
It's 51% of FIVE blocks last
By boxrox
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:59pm
It's 51% of FIVE blocks last time I checked. Because of all the varying hours/availability within such a large area it would take days of time to hit 51%
Yeah, but you do it once and
By anon
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 4:13pm
Yeah, but you do it once and then you automatically get the street forever. It has to be some number of households. Otherwise, each house could decide the rules in front of it, which would be ridiculous.
Meanwhile, nonresidents have no say in the process.
Has any such petition ever failed because 51% of residents explicitly said no?
Has any resident ever considered what the nonresidents are supposed to do once the street parking is restricted? Yes, they could walk, take the T, bike, take an Uber, or pay for off-street parking if it exists nearby. But so could the resident.
too low
By anon
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 2:51pm
Getting towed once for street cleaning is $180+. If cleaning a little trash from under a parked car is worth $180, then that parking spot is worth a lot more than $25 a year.
$25
By anon
Tue, 04/23/2019 - 3:04pm
says the woman who owns no car, but has kids and relies on public subsidies to get her and them around town. I hope she runs for Mayor so I can vote against her.
uh
By hux
Wed, 04/24/2019 - 9:17am
" relies on public subsidies to get her and them around town"
It's been said numerous times already on this thread, but you realize that is exactly what car owners do, right?
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...
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