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Closing time: Board approves sale of Doyle's liquor license to steak chain in the Seaport
By adamg on Thu, 09/19/2019 - 3:37pm
The Boston Licensing Board today approved the sale of the liquor license now held by Doyle's on Washington Street in Jamaica Plain to the owner of a planned Davio's in the Seaport.
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When are they officially done?
n/t
His building, his right to do as he wants
but.... I will not be surprised if Ed Boyle just happens to find a buyer for allegedly unlisted property very quickly in spite of his protestations that he has no plans to sell immediately.
Also for the 'Save D/Boyle's' crowd, just remember that we the tax payers of Boston took was I recall was $100k haircut to hook him up just a few years ago when the BSW sold land under the building to to him. The rich and connected are all that matters in city gov't around here.
If Burke's have 'right' to benefit from angle play, why not us?
(I mean 'us' in the sense of Bostonians/taxpayers - I am not personally part of any more specific group involved in this.)
If it's the case, as has been claimed on this site and some other forums, that the Burkes might have used personal connections and contractual hanky-panky to realize a huge (unearned) windfall by getting a practically free liquor license (decades ago), and a sweetheart deal on a big parcel of land (a few years ago), why is it any less ethical for interested Bostonians/taxpayers to do whatever they can to claw back some of that value and/or de-incentivize the removal of a widely well-regarded public accommodation?
Well property rights are clearly defined
generalized 'we'd rather this was different' rights are more poorly defined in the legal realm, I believe.
Even if they'd paid full 'fair' value years ago on the liquor license and building, this would still be a windfall.
It's been tried
The city keeps asking the state for more licenses which would bring down the value of current holders. If Mass actually eliminated the cap - like they have in every other town/city -- the value of a Boston liquor license would be $0. How's that for claw back?
And in that lies the rub. The well connected bar owners don't want to lose that huge investment so they do everything they can to lobby to keep the limits. Who wants competition?
People need to Deal With It
People need to Deal With It and work out a way for the city to issue N+X licenses each year, with N being however many they're allowed to issue each year currently and X being a number that grows a bit every year. Give the dipshits who count on their license as "an asset" plenty of time to bail out and open the scene up. The restaurant scene in this city is sad, especially compared to camberville.
Perhaps you should reread what you replied to
And in case you haven’t noticed, you’re “people” too.
So, how should things proceed?
Also, you do know that both Cambridge and Somerville are not a part of Boston, right? They are in fact cities on their own. Oh, fuck it. Welcome to the Boston area. Don’t let the door hit you on the ass when you leave.
Eddie Boyle. Eddie Burke.
Eddie Boyle. Eddie Burke. Eddie Doyle. The Friends of Eddie Coyle. The friends of Jimmy Curley. The friends of Marty Dorchesta.
Doyle's
I enjoyed their Reuben many times. Props.
They came a long way from
They came a long way from Pickwick and Ballantine draft,,,,
You kids love all of the
You kids love all of the building that's going on in Seaport bc you thought housing prices would go down, but now you're whining because affordable neighborhood local businesses are choosing to close up shop to sell their liquor licenses to the shiny new neighborhood with all of the new development you so badly wanted. Think about it before you scream for all of those shiny new developments next time.
Settle down, gramps
Please show me where any kid, or adult for that matter, ever said housing in the Seaport would bring down housing costs in the rest of the city. The whole original point of the "Innovation District" (remember that?) was to create a new 24/7 city within the city where people could live in their swanky apartments and walk to work (the sop towards affordable housing were to be tiny little partitioned veal pens; turned out the few that were built weren't actually that much chaper). Building housing as part of a mini-city was never supposed to do the least bit of good for people being gentrified out of [name a neighborhood anywhere else on the other side of Fort Point Channel].