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By adamg on Mon, 12/02/2019 - 12:11pm
My name is Igor and I live in Southie and for years wasn't sure if and when to put out a space saver. Between tweets and web sites, there was no one place that could tell me for sure. Now there is. I hope this simple page helps.
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bad link
Here's the correct one:
canisavemyspace.com
Link broken?
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Fixed now, sorry about that
You'd think I'd know HTML by now ...
Will someone
Help save myspace.com?
If you're in the South End:
If you're in the South End: Never. It's banned in the entire neighborhood. You're welcome.
Regarding space-saving:
It seems to me that the people who live in Boston's South End have the right idea. It should be banned everywhere, and garages and public parking lots should be made available for people to put their cars in during a snow emergency/snowstorm. What Boston and other cities and towns in the Commonwealth should do, during and after a huge snowstorm is to ban parking on one side of the street(s) so that snow removal can take place for one evening, and then ban parking on the other side of the street(s), so that the other side of the street(s) and/or roads can be plowed. That, in a nutshell, would lead to better and more thorough snow-removal after large snowfalls, so that it'll facilitate driving and walking and parking after snowstorms. Better snow removal would more than likely at least reduce the urge for people to do the stupid thing of space-saving in the wintertime.
I can understand an older or disabled person needing to save a space, but when perfectly able-bodied people of any age, especially college students and/or working people constantly save their spaces, it's really selfish--and disgusting.
Which garages and public
Which garages and public parking lots would you “free up” in Dorchester, Mattapan, Hyde Park?
Since they don't have any garages in Dorchester, Mattapan, or
Hyde Park, why not temporarily free up school parking lots for snow emergencies for people to use who can't find on-street parking spaces in the wake of a big snowfall, and then give them a certain time frame (such as 2-3 hours after the storm ends) to move their cars back out again?
So ppl will have to walk In
So ppl will have to walk In the street, on un-shoveled sidewalks or get rides to said parking lots; shovel out their cars to return to a street covered with snow bc the ppl already parked will just move to the plowed side of the street.
This plan seems worse than space saving.
First of all, people are obligated to shovel their sidewalks.
For starters, people are obligated to shovel and salt down their sidewalks after a snowfall, so that it won't ice over and create unsafe walking conditions for people. Secondly, it won't hurt perfectly able-bodied people to walk a little bit to get from a car parked in a parking lot to get to and/or from their house. I don't think that plan is worse than space-saving. It's not going to hurt people who can do so to park in a parking lot for awhile so that the city can plow the streets and make them drivable and parable again.
Yes indeed, people are
Yes indeed, people are obligated to shovel. Look at 311 any time it snows or go around to different neighborhoods. There is a great deal of property un-shoveled, forcing people to walk in the street. People have submitted complaints for city property. In a perfect world your plan is great, but it isn’t realistic. Where are these parking lots you’re talking about?
Good idea
About the school parking lots. If it's a declared snow emergency there's a very good chance school will be cancelled anyway.
canisavemyspace.com looks like a winner.
Still needs to be plowed
Often schools close or have delayed openings because of the need to clear snow from the parking lots, which they can't do if the lot is full of residents cars.
School parking lots aren't the answer
They have to be plowed too so the teachers can park at work the next day. My friend is a custodian and he actually goes door to door trying to get rogue parkers (newbies) out of the lot before they're towed. Just because he's a good neighbor to the schools neighbors.
It would be an absolute shit show if parking was actually allowed.
Here we go again
First, not all neighborhoods have your mythical parking garages and mythical public parking lots. In my part of Dorchester we have none, unless you want to include a small school parking lot which has to be plowed anyway for school to open.
Second, it doesn't matter if someone is elderly or able-bodied, according to whatever your definition of able-bodied is. Whether one is elderly or younger, we can spend a very long time shoveling out a spot, and in my case, a sidewalk and front steps also. And when I come home from work, there is no way that have the time or the additional strength to shovel another spot out of sometimes iced over snow as hard as rock.
Third, Parking on one side or the other makes sense on certain streets , but only if the plows actually plow to or near the curb. Other streets don't have the room to park only on one side.
Fourth, In my neighborhood, space savers work quite well. Almost all of my neighbors and I use them, and when we no longer need them, we remove them. Yeah sometimes people put them out too soon or hang on to them too long, but its not the big end of the world catastrophe that some Uhubbers think it is. Some of you complainers are off the deep end.
Fifth, If you lived on my street, you would use one. I am convinced that most of the anti space saver advocates don't have a car, and/or don't have to park on the street.
Sixth, Mayor Marty realizes space savers are a necessary way of life for some of us, and allows them under limited circumstances. The truth is that the city rarely picks them up unless it's trash day. In my neighborhood people use trash or recycling containers, which the city never picks up. If it's not a trash barrel, its usually junk and its fine if the city takes it. Enforcement is unusual, which is just what Mayor Marty and we want.
Seventh and last, calling me and thousand of others "selfish and disgusting" doesn't help anything. I could call you ignorant and privileged, in addition to being selfish and disgusting, since you obviously don't have a car, or don't have to park on the street, but I wont. If you had a car and lived on my street I am 100% sure you would use a space saver.
I disagree, anon.
I've pointed this out on another post, and on other threads on this subject, but it bears repeating here:
If the city did a much better job of snow removal after a snowstorm, there wouldn't be nearly as much of a need for people to engage in the stupid act of reserving parking spaces. Nor would there be so many people running the risk of having nasty or threatening notes put on their windshield, or worse, facing assaults on their property or on their person(s).
Can yo bottle and sell that optimism?
Sorry, but the city of Boston won't be doing a better job of snow removal EVER.
It just ain't happening. maybe global warming will take care of this for us.
Not necessary, you can use
Not necessary, you can use space savers whenever you want in Southie.
When you can legally use a space saver is never.
In 2014 the city council passed Ordinance 1310, which states, in part,
"no person or entity other than the City of Boston and any of its departments or designees shall have the authority to sell, lease, reserve, or facilitate the reserving of any street, way, highway, road or parkway, or portion thereof under the City of Boston's control."
This unambiguously bans space-savers.
The City Council passed a law and the Mayor is basically refusing to enforce it. That's sort of a mini version of a constitutional crisis. If the City Council had a backbone, it would get the courts to compel the Mayor to enforce the laws that the City Council passed.
Good point, Bob Leponge!
Space-saving, at large is rude, selfish, immature, and completely illegal, and lazy, to boot.
That's right, never let the
That's right, never let the law interfere with tradition.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Yeh--right! Very smart! Ha ha ha ha ha!
So, since today is NOT a snow
So, since today is NOT a snow emergency AND was trash day, shouldn't the trash truck have taken the "trash" on the side of the road?
On a related note, could a property owner be cited for "improper disposal" for having a space saver in front of their house?
I haven’t seen waste
I haven’t seen waste management take stuff from the street, just sidewalk. The city of Boston sometimes sends their garbage trucks a few days after a storm. No, the space saver may not belong a resident of the property it’s in front of.
So, since today is NOT a snow
Yes.
Yes.