Herrell's, in the bucolic city of Northampton (started by Steve Herrell, yes, that Steve, and his wife) reports several incidents in which people got so, so mad when they were told to put on a mask or to take their cone to go - one even threw the cone at the server when told they couldn't eat it inside.
H/t Drew.
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I wonder
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 4:01pm
Did anyone ever tell these shitheads NO! when they were children?
Seriously?
When did acting like a toddler become a political act and not an immature, deplorable antisocial one?
Are lead poisoning and fetal alcohol spectrum disorder that common in certain areas that this many people are incapable of basic adult behavior? That so many people simply can't be expected to exercise the most simple impulse control?
This is why we need social workers - these people need services to improve their behavior. Might mean they can hold a job someday, too.
"in certain areas"
By lbb
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:33am
I'm not sure what's going on in the time of covid, but normally the patrons of Herrell's tend to be of a social class where "lead poisoning and fetal alcohol spectrum disorder" would be a factor. They're faculty and faculty brats (and students, but none of those now), which is certainly not to say that they don't act out. Entitlement drives acting out more than your bugaboos.
"What's going on in a time of COVID"
By anon
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:51am
The smart people stay home to avoid the stupid people, dear.
These are not likely the entitled professors.
Also? Lead poisoning affected everyone in an entire generation in Massachusetts and still does. That's because it was coming out of every tailpipe.
If you don't like the rules, go someplace else
By mg
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 4:06pm
For heavens sake, if you don't like a private business enforcing the rules they consider necessary for safety (not to mention what the state government requires) then leave peacefully and go someplace else.
Exactly
By BostonDog
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 4:23pm
Why do they have "freedom" but the business owner doesn't have the same right to require whatever dress code they are fit. Did they at least have a shirt and shoes?
I've finally realized why
By Will LaTulippe
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:34am
People don't vote Libertarian: Few people actually want to acknowledge the private property rights of others. These people wanted to sit in someone else's building/business and flout the safety guidelines. Same with the lady who threw the groceries out of her own cart when asked to wear a mask inside the supermarket.
Couple that with all the petty theft, and I can see where a vote for a party which promotes private property rights and doing no harm is against the interests of a lot of people.
No
By Scratchie
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:40am
That's not the reason.
How big is the Hub, anyway?
By Ari O
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 4:06pm
I guess there is a whole category for the Midwest.
WESTMASS
NoHo
By BostonDog
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 4:25pm
Northampton makes JP look downright conservative politically speaking. I wouldn't think someone who was opposed to masks would ever consider going to that town.
This Is What Makes It Funny
By John Costello
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 5:07pm
Remember - Like the place where they think Brianne Wu has a good shot to defeat Steve Lynch in the primary, JP Sur-La-Connecticut is filled with busybody know it alls who are, in their own minds, smarter than you.
Ice cream is a fun business and like any business, nearly every customer is great. Karens and Chads of the world come in all classes in both liberal and conservative stripes, don't think because someone went to Mount Holyoke and settled in a Victorian on a side street near Smith that they are not customer service monsters either.
TL;DR
By Friartuck
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 5:32pm
Too much to unpack between JP, Victorians and Mt Holyoke ...
It was two paragraphs... I
By Matt Frank
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 5:36pm
It was two paragraphs... I call TL\DR technical foul.
Good For You
By John Costello
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 5:57pm
I guess reading comprehension isn't one of your attributes.
All that was missing from this haiku
By Friartuck
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 6:32pm
Was the issue of nightly fireworks and anti-vaxxers
You forgot about
By perruptor
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 8:07pm
Polandbicycles.Comprehensible writing
By SamWack
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 8:11am
is a great aid to reading comprehension.
Could you please
By gremies
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 8:29pm
edit the trumpspeak into one intelligible sentence? Maybe when you sober up?
I’ll try
By Waquiot
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 8:51pm
Self entitled assholes who prefer to preach rather than practice inhabit both ends of the political spectrum.
Speaking of which, welcome.
Big hole in this "theory"
By anon
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:06am
The anti-mask crowd is the only ones out getting ice cream.
The mask wearing crowd is avoiding crowds like the plague that they are.
Self-selection factors matter in statistical analysis.
Not really a "crowd"
By lbb
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:50am
I was in Herrell's a couple of weeks ago. They've got social distancing measures, signs, hand sanitizer, all that good stuff, just like every sane business, and it was by no means crowded.
Things are a bit different in western Mass: instacart and peapod and similar services are not widely available, many towns have no restaurant delivery, and so most people have no choice but to go out. Going out to perform errands doesn't imply any particular attitude toward safety when it's a necessity.
Oh, the irony
By lbb
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:34am
Oh, the irony of Mr. Instant Expert (just add bullshit) calling anyone else a know it all as he spouts off on a community other than his own.
Hey, Hey
By John Costello
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 2:54pm
Dollar Store Dworkin is back on the warpath.
There is so much anger in your responses.
Stay away from other humans for a while. The world will be a better place. Thanks.
Bwaaaahahahaha
By lbb
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:52am
The toxic troll with the throbbing forehead veins and an endless store of vitriolic epithets is throwing stones from the shakiest of glass houses when he accuses others of anger. And "Dollar Store Dworkin", really? Catch up, Rip Van Winkel, you really are above it all and beside the point.
Having driven through there
By JeanneM
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 5:19pm
Having driven through there yesterday and witnessed a Blue Lives Matter/Trump 2020 rally with my own eyes, I feel confident in saying that there are plenty of conservatives in Northampton. So it does not shock me to hear that there's at least one anti-mask moron in town.
It's a relatively rural place
By anon
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 7:01am
It's a relatively rural place, there are a lot of farms around, it's rich fertile Connecticut River Valley soil. So it's not just the five-college 'liberal elite'. Plus, Springfield (and Holyoke) are just down the road
Curious
By lbb
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:54am
How much do you know about Holyoke? Or the rural areas that surround Northampton?
How much do you know about Williamsburg?
By Waquiot
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 11:41am
Or Hatfield? Or Westhampton? Or Easthampton, the town that separates Northampton from Holyoke?
I've Only Been Going There for 30 Years
By John Costello
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 1:28pm
….and was there over Memorial Day Weekend and in October last year. However, according to some very, very angry person, I am an "Instant Expert" on Northampton.
Easthampton is great too. Don't tell anyone but Lloyd Cole lives there quietly, since few Americans know who he is, and pops into the British foods shop out behind Thorne's in Northampton from time to time.
PS - Don't ever venture off Route 5 into the center of Hatfield. It would suck if angry people saw it.
Heh
By lbb
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 2:06pm
Occasional day tourist says what?
Ah Lloyd Cole
By Michael
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 2:57pm
Will forever be the answer to the trivia question "what was the last concert I went to before the world fell apart". He was sick as a dog but gritted his way through it too.
Plenty
By lbb
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 2:05pm
Unlike you, I live out here. I was in Hatfield yesterday.
Did you have a point in there somewhere?
Interesting
By Waquiot
Wed, 07/08/2020 - 4:10pm
(making a mental note for the next time llb pontificates on Boston.)
Still, kind of shocked that you didn't know that there's a town between Northampton and Holyoke. I'd think a local would know that.
Correction
By lbb
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:36am
There are plenty of trumpists who will GO TO Northampton to show their entire ass in public, just as there are plenty of trumpists who will go to Boston to do exactly the same thing.
Ex-wife, I believe
By Ron Newman
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 4:37pm
No longer married but I think still friends.
They were married
By Homer Bedloe
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 9:48am
when they started the chain, which is what the article stated. What, exactly, are you correcting?
dual crime
By Fenway Crank
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 6:47pm
assault, for which they should be charged
and wasting ice cream!
People are so disgusting that it practically defies belief!
By mplo
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 8:15pm
The guys who decided that they didn't like the rules about wearing masks when they entered the shop and were told they couldn't eat their cones inside the store acted like a couple of big babies! The fact that people can be so disgusting is what spoils things for the people who do comply with the rules of social distancing and wearing a mask.
Those guys should be arrested, tried in a court of law for and charged with assault, and spend some time in the slammer for what they did.
Management needs to do more
By anon
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 8:35pm
The Branch Covidians are way out of line but this shouldn’t be on the servers.
Forget FB posts. Seen this a few times now.
Support your workers.
Owners and managers should be there enforcing these rules during business hours.
Employees should say hang on and then get the owner or manager over.
Being at the store
By Judy Herrell
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:07pm
The owner of a business is a human being. After 90 hours or so of work during a week, especially during a struggling time and being short handed, dont you think it's ok for the owner to go home and leave their store in the hands of competent managers and assistant managers? I'm in the store for most of these issues with customers.
That's good to hear.
By anon
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 12:05pm
The linked FB post made it seem like 2 servers were in the line of fire while no mention of management/ owners.
Glad you're being responsible.
This is at least the third FB post I've seen calling out the no-maskers on behalf of poorly treated employees but with no mention of management taking action.
If your managers are competent perhaps you need to change your procedures to protect your workers.
Perhaps the crew shouldn't engage the no-maskers at all. When they see one there action should be to go find a manager to handle it.
I've run crews before and I've done everything possible to keep them working safely.
And I've specifically told them to find me to handle issues outside there scope of work.
Hang in there.
Happy Valley
By McQueen
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 9:22pm
Just FYI that no one from the area actually calls it the Happy Valley. It’s like no one from Boston calls it Beantown. No one calls it Noho either.
Happy Valley = sarcastic
By anony-mouse
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 10:40pm
I've spent time at the 5 colleges and in the area for work and fun. I always thought Happy Valley was a sarcastic or slightly pejorative nick-name. Used by outsiders and residents when they are mocking themselves just a little bit.
Plenty of people from the
By anon
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:28am
Plenty of people from the area do call it Noho though
As the result...
By lbb
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 10:55am
...of an extensive marketing campaign, and with a very loose definition of "from the area". I remember when this "Noho" bullshit started. Townies then and now refer to the place as "Hamp".
Come on!
By Bostonmaggie
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 10:55pm
"NoHo" as a nickname is hilarious!
I was so confused
By Kaz
Sun, 07/05/2020 - 10:41pm
Somehow, I read Herrell's and Northampton and thought of Bedford Farms in Bedford. It's just past the end of the Minuteman Bike Trail in Bedford and makes a great pit stop before turning around and biking back to Boston. The ice cream was incredibly good with lots of variations and the portions were huge. It was a little too sweet, but it's ice cream so who's arguing?
Anyways, I figured it out because Bedford Farms is only walk-up and doesn't have an inside to sit down in which made no sense with what Adam wrote.
So the moral of the story is check out Bedford Farms Ice Cream if you're ever in Bedford.
This is the most boring parable I've ever read...
By DrewD
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 12:17pm
but the moral is well worth it!
Given all the bad behavior of
By anon
Mon, 07/06/2020 - 7:03am
Given all the bad behavior of late, the outrage here is hilarious.
I'm strongly pro-mask. But I
By anon
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 2:09am
I'm strongly pro-mask. But I also like to understand how the rules work, and question rules that are self-contradictory or physically impossible to follow.
You can't do the actual eating of ice cream with a mask on. So presumably you don't have to wear one when you're eating.
If you're allowed to get ice cream to go with no mask, presumably that means you don't need a mask to order, pay, and receive your ice cream.
So when exactly do you need a mask? Just when you're walking from the counter to your table (but not from the counter to the door)?
Not sure...
By DrewD
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 11:20am
Are you allowed to?
I don't know what their rules are and I haven't been to the store in Northampton, but if you are allowed to order to go with no mask, I would assume that's an outside line as opposed to indoors which makes a difference.
I'm only guessing though. It is possible they're applying the rules poorly.
I looked at the original
By anon
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 1:17pm
I looked at the original Facebook post. It seems Adam's description of "they were told to put on a mask or to take their cone to go" wasn't entirely accurate. In fact, everyone has to take their ice cream to go, and the man without a mask wasn't served at all. That makes a lot more sense.
Inventor of the Mixin
By DrewD
Tue, 07/07/2020 - 11:16am
For any programmers/CompSci historians out there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixin
Steve's "Mix-ins" had an impact beyond just the ice-cream industry!
(Can't remember where I first heard this... might have even been UHub?)
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