Of late, some concerned citizens have been filing 311 complaints about the M Street beach. Many are about overcrowding there, or the gross conditions or both. But some aggravated citizens are filing complaints about the boats:
Boats anchored too close to shore AND I didn't see resident parking stickers on them either.
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White privilege.
By BBW
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 3:16pm
White privilege.
People of all races and
By anon
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:19pm
People of all races and ethnicites own and ride in boats.
Duh. I’m talking about what’s
By BBW
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 6:05pm
Duh. I’m talking about what’s going on at that end of the beach without any repercussions.
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By roadman
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 11:27am
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"White" is a racial slur?
By lbb
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 8:29am
News to me.
He doesn't like being reminded
By perruptor
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 8:41am
Rodman doesn't like being reminded that white people can do wrong things. It's a trigger for him.
The term White Privilege catgorizes actions
By roadman
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 11:13am
based on a group's race. That by defintion makes it a racial slur, and it is very reasonable to consider it an objectional statement. Your response that the term is a "trigger" for me, which it isn't, only reaffirms that.
Don't be absurd
By lbb
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 12:13pm
"White privilege" refers to benefits that accrue to white people in our society. It says nothing of actions.
Oh boy.
By BBW
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 12:28pm
Oh boy.
Consider reading up, Roadman
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 11:00am
Or, at least, reading something other than Reader's Digest.
https://nymag.com/strategist/article/anti-racist-r...
Unless, of course, you are too fragile to consider the society-wide structures that maintain your unearned privilege.
The term mentions RACE
By roadman
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 11:16am
and is often used to stereotype people - such as the implication in the previous post that people of color would nevewr be able to park boats so close to shore. That makes it a racist statement.
Sorry to have ruffuled your feathers with a reality check.
Nope
By lbb
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 12:14pm
"White privilege" refers to the benefits that white people receive by virtue of being white in a racist society. It is not a "racist statement" to state that racism exists nor that white people benefit from it.
Large groups of Black people
By BBW
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 12:39pm
Large groups of Black people would most certainly not get away with open container drinking and partying on boats so close to shore on M st beach. Constantly.
That end of South Boston would never tolerate it and police would be called.
Roadman, honey
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 1:34pm
You are the one who needs a serious reality check.
Guess who thinks these are his people?
By perruptor
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 9:08am
They shoveled their spots,
By anon
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 3:31pm
They shoveled their spots, you should have seen it before. Liquified snow everywhere.
With, or against the tide?
By perruptor
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 8:42am
They missed some.
In fact
By SamWack
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 11:22am
that’s not a boat, it’s a space saver.
Only a matter of time before
By anon
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 3:34pm
Only a matter of time before the space savers (the true symbol of Southie white privilege) show up.
“True symbol of Southie white
By Lmo
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 6:22pm
“True symbol of Southie white privilege” drive around other neighborhoods in the city. It isn’t just white people.
The reclassification of space savers
By anon
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 8:37pm
What did we consider space savers before the white privilege craze? At least they have a category now.
Transformer?
By Damaged
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 3:41pm
What is the Transformer looking thing directly behind the man in the white shirt and hat on the boat? It looks as though it could be a roof of some sort but with strange attachments, or, perhaps it's not even part of the boat? I (politely) demand answers.
If it was a car,
By perruptor
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 8:45am
If it was a car, that would be a spoiler. IDK what they call it on a boat.
Ridiculous. How far away is
By Lmo
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 4:02pm
Ridiculous. How far away is ok?
I didn't see resident parking stickers on them either.
By RichM
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 4:08pm
But I do see the Massachusetts registration sticker on it, right in front of the white line.
As far as mooring there, you are supposed to be 75 feet away from a designated swimming area.
75 feet from floats designating a swimming area
By roadman
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 4:15pm
If there are no floats, the minimum distance is 150 feet. https://www.usps.org/e_stuff/documents/massachuset...
No more floats?
By RichM
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 4:38pm
Sorry,
Last time I was there I thought they had a marked area for swimming. My brother had his boat nearby but it got eliminated a few storms ago.
All my boating is by sail.
Thank You Community Boating!
Stupid question - is that a designated swimming area?
By merlinmurph
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 8:10pm
I have no idea, but if it is not, then the boats are fine.
Then one asks, what is a designated swimming area?
Is it under lifeguard supervision?
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 11:02am
Then it is a designated swimming area.
And if those boats are in that area, they obstruct the ability of the life guards to do their job.
So, is it?
By merlinmurph
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 12:27pm
Anybody know?
Also, I'm sure an area can be a designated swimming area without a lifeguard.
So, what's the deal with this place?
Per Massachusetts law,
By roadman
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 4:11pm
150 feet from a shoreline used as a designated swimming area.
https://www.usps.org/e_stuff/documents/massachuset...
Why is that document hosted on the USPS website?
By BostonDog
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:34pm
Are they delivering mail in Massachusetts via small recreational watercraft?
That's USPS.com or USPS.gov
By dd808
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:56pm
That's USPS.com or USPS.gov
USPS.org = United States Power Squadrons
By anon
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 6:10pm
Founded 1912 in Boston.
No one should ever operate a boat without passing their basic boating safety course.
Yet, all it takes in
By Lmo
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 6:24pm
Yet, all it takes in Massachusetts is money and any jerk can run a boat.
Not *that* USPS
By Neal
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:51pm
United States Power Squadrons is a boating organization "whose mission is to improve maritime safety and enjoyability through classes in seamanship, navigation, and other related subjects."
That would explain it
By BostonDog
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:52pm
I always forget if the post office is .org or .com. They should just stick with .gov.
They use .gov and .com so
By dd808
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:57pm
They use .gov and .com so nobody else can misdirect people to fraudulent sites
USPS barely uses USPS.GOV,
By anon
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 9:17am
USPS barely uses USPS.GOV, they don't even have a DNS record for @.USPS.GOV. I emailed them about that exactly problem like 15 years ago and someone wrote back alluding to an obscure technical reason it wouldn't work. My guess is USPS has a "Dead Sea" problem with their IT staffing.
Doesn't really matter
By Parkwayne
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 4:40pm
Just ask Benjamin P. Urbelis Esq.
MA is run by rich a-holes for rich a-holes.
Why does a boat along shore
By anon
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:19pm
Why does a boat along shore bother anyone? Who cares? Get a life
Until they hit somebody
By dd808
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 5:58pm
Until they hit somebody swimming.
Getting struck by a propeller
By Anon
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 7:03pm
Google what happens when a swimmer or someone who falls off a boat is hit by an I/O or outboard motor prop. It happens and is gruesome.
A wild guess
By Scratchie
Mon, 07/27/2020 - 9:17pm
I'm going to take a wild guess here that it bothers the swimmers, because it creates hazards to life and limb and restricts the area they can swim in.
Obstructs life guard vision and operations
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 11:03am
The boat is in the way of the sight lines of the lifeguard.
There was a scene in Star
By anon
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 12:13am
There was a scene in Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi that was pretty much the same thing:
http://thelegalgeeks.com/2017/12/18/illegal-beach-...
They have to park close so it
By anon
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 6:54am
They have to park close so it’s a short walk to pee in someone’s yard.
It's awful that someone would
By anon
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 9:20am
It's awful that someone would even joke about resident parking stickers for a boat.
It's bad enough that people expect a public street to be reserved for them by excluding outsiders. But then they start extending that idea to boat access in the ocean. Who knows what's next? Beach access? Getting a table at a restaurant with reduced capacity? Riding a bus or using the local T station? Walking or biking down a residential street?
Already there.
By Lmo
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 2:39pm
Hate to break it to you, but you need a Boston mooring permit to dock or moor your vessel in Boston.
Nonresidents are allowed to
By anon
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 3:15pm
Nonresidents are allowed to get a mooring permit. It costs more, $5/foot versus $1/foot for Boston residents. But at least it's possible at all, unlike a parking permit which is unavailable to nonresidents at any price.
Oh, also it's illegal for Boston to charge more for nonresidents. But nobody at the state cares about making cities obey the law. https://commonwealthmagazine.org/economy/003-moori...
And I'm not a boating expert, but I don't think you need any sort of local permit to drop an anchor while hanging out on the boat for the day, like in this photo.
Beach access
By perruptor
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 2:59pm
Beach access is already restricted, in lots of places. Sometimes, it's by parking bans near the beach, as in Manchester-by-the-Sea, sometimes it's by institutional control, as at Cranes Beach. And unlike almost all the rest of the country, MA extends private ownership of beaches to the low-water mark. There was a feud between a certain Jacquelyn Onassis and the Wampanoag Tribe over the tribe's access to a beach they owned. Ms Onassis was reportedly fond of going naked at the shore, and didn't want any ogling.
Parking is a lost cause. But
By anon
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 3:19pm
Parking is a lost cause. But for whatever reason, most city/town beaches around here are open to anyone if you can get there. Especially in Boston.
There are a few beaches in super-rich towns that won't let in people like you and me, but they're the exception.
Beach access vs. parking access
By merlinmurph
Tue, 07/28/2020 - 4:14pm
Don't confuse beach access with parking access.
Most towns will let anybody on the beach, but because of the limited parking paid for and maintained by the town, they limit access to residents. Parking is the limited resource. You can walk in and ride your bike in no problem. Mostly.
Then, as you mentioned, there's the whole ownership of the beach issue that goes back centuries. Every once in awhile, you'll see an article in the paper about people battling over beach access and those lawsuits go on for years.
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