Guy with walkie-talkie and two associates, from the jogger's video.
A Black man out for a jog down leafy VFW Parkway in West Roxbury today reports he was stopped by three guys who got out of an SUV and tried to ask him questions and asked for his ID, at least until he took out his phone and began recording them - after they showed him badges that read "ICE" [See video].
Then, Bena Apreala reports, through a posting in the Keep Roslindale Quirky Facebook group, he asked "we're all set, sir?" and all three replied "yeah" and one told him to "enjoy his run," and he began to walk away. But then, one of the men began pointing a walkie-talkie at him and asked, "Do you have any tattoos on your left or right arms to confirm?"
He responded, "Am I free to go?" They didn't answer this time, but he again began to walk away, this time adding, "If I'm free to go then I'm not showing you anything, thank you. Have a great day guys."
Across the parkway, somebody began recording the scene as well.
According to the posting by his partner, the men pulled up, got out and said they wanted to ask him some questions:
He asked them if they were BPD and they said no and showed him their official badges. They said he fit a description of someone they were investigating and asked for his name and ID.
She added:
When Ben learned they were ICE he said “I’m not who you’re looking for I was born and raised in Boston†and they replied “that’s not all we doâ€. They were mostly civil except at first he said he wasn’t giving them any info and if he was free to go and they said no until they can confirm his identity. Once he told him his name and where he lived they were more civil.
Updates:
Like the job UHub is doing? Consider a contribution. Thanks!
Ad:
Comments
Video link added to original post
By adamg
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 2:44pm
Just in case, you can see it here.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
By John Costello
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 2:51pm
Time for Mr. Walsh and Mr. Baker to gently remind the Federales, if that's who this Vanilla Isis crew is, to piss off.
They won't
By Ari O
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:28pm
They're beholden to the police who support this. Will take a change at the top to put an end to this as should happen.
Time for a change. I’ll be
By Kinopio
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 6:18pm
Time for a change. I’ll be voting Wu.
Will it, Ari?
By Brian Riccio
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 6:46pm
Will it really?
Takes a change from the bottom
By im dope
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 9:17am
The top isn't where change emerges. it takes a change from below.
Please Read, History repeats itself !
By Françoise
Sun, 10/11/2020 - 4:06am
Humor me as I take you down this rabbit hole. I promise to come full circle and correlate what ICE did in Boston to our current social climate and how the change has to come from all of us citizens of this great nation.
Four years ago Trump‘s platform was to â€Make America Great Again.†The means by which he would achieve this were: building a wall to keep “criminals and rapists†out and deporting illegal immigrants.
He blames most of what is bad or wrong in the United States on the Immigrant social group, Hispanic subgroup and Mexicans, the tertiary group. He correlates the sheer existence of the immigrant social group and it’s subgroups to high crime rates, unemployment, low wages and lack of funding in federally funded social service (because they are ALL on welfare). By making this correlation he has convinced his base, the disenfranchised lower social classes, to believe they can abolish all which afflicts them by eradicating the country of the immigrant social group and it’s subgroups.
“My way or the highway…back to TJâ€. (Is it too late to submit this catch phrase to his head of merch)
In addition, the current social climate of police brutality primarily towards POC, which was as present during Jim Crow as it is now. The only difference is, the cameras we all have in our hands 24/7 are capturing the inhumane treatment towards POC social group at the hands of the People IN Power social group
( INSERT ~~~ ICE racial profiling stop on the VFW ~~~ HERE)
Black lives matter vs All lives matter vs Blue lives matter and voilà the Immigrant social group now shares the UNDESIRABLES classification with the People of Color social group.
Recent events in the United States are eerily parallel to those which unfolded a century ago.
100 years ago a narcissistic, sadistic, self absorbed politician with illusions of grandeur running for his countries highest office rallied his base, the disenfranchised lower classes, to elect him, based on a campaign platform that attributed all that was wrong in their society to a specific social group. Said politician was elected and he hit the ground running,, fully intent to keep his campaign promise of eradicating the country of their UNDESIRABLE social group.
The year was 1933, the country was Germany. The social group were Jews and the politician elected to the office of Chancellor denounced attempts or oust him as leader by appointing himself dictator.
His name was Adolf Hitler his tactic was deportation of the masses and the method was GENOCIDE.
Know your history.
Save the world.
Go out and VOTE!
AND THEN PRAY IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE
Curious which Mr. Walsh and
By tape
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 4:11pm
Curious which Mr. Walsh and Mr. Baker you think you're directing that to.
Not The Baker You Endorsed Someone Threatening With Violence
By John Costello
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 4:28pm
Ya did. Don't deny it. Try harder next time.
Joe Walsh and Ginger Baker
By anon
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 11:49pm
Joe Walsh and Ginger Baker
Thanks for posting
By BostonDog
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 2:53pm
Thank you Ben for recording and posting this.
Thanks to Adam for running the story.
These people need to be identified and stopped.
It's everywhere. When I was
By anon
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:02pm
It's everywhere. When I was on the train at Ruggles I ran into my old neighbor who is black. Just the stares coming from the passengers was embarrassing. Can't a white person talk to a black person and exchange laughter at the same time without being eyeballed? Relax people!
That probably had more to do
By Kinopio
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 6:20pm
That probably had more to do with covid than race.
We wore masks. People of
By anon
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 6:23am
We wore masks. People of all skin colors always stare when they see a white person and black person engaged in a friendly conversation being good friends. Has nothing to do with the pandemic.
Ok. So people can’t talk to
By Hank
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 6:52am
Ok. So people can’t talk to each other now without everyone else “freaking outâ€. pandemic doesn’t mean stop all human interaction and communication. That’s not going to happen.
How can you blame their
By anon
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 11:49am
How can you blame their staring at us because of Covid? We were following the rules by wearing masks as opposed to a lot of other passengers who don't wear them and cough everywhere.
Abolish ICE. These people
By ZachAndTired
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:03pm
Abolish ICE. These people are adding nothing to society but terror.
I don't think that abolishing ICE is necessarily the answer,
By mplo
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:31pm
but I do firmly believe, however, that ICE must be forced to change their policies.
Well we disagree then.
By ZachAndTired
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:58pm
Well we disagree then. Abolishing ICE is the only viable option. What is the sense in changing policies when they can't be enforced? This organization didn't exist prior to 2003 and it doesn't need to exist now. What has ICE accomplished to justify its existence?
yeah, i am confused on whats
By schneidz
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 5:11pm
yeah, i am confused on whats the difference between i.c.e. and i.n.s.
INS doesn't exist anymore.
By R Hookup
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 11:36pm
INS doesn't exist anymore. ICE does enforcement; USCIS does the paperwork processing; CBP does enforcement at the border.
Things have changed a great deal, especially since 9/11, and
By mplo
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:23pm
tougher stances are needed. ICE should be forced to change its policies.
Tougher Stances are Needed
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 1:19pm
Please explain what those are.
That's obvious
By fungwah
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 2:20pm
Instead of just harassing brown people, they've decided to start harassing black people as well.
Don't you feel safer already?
border patrol has always
By Hank
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 6:53am
border patrol has always existed. You can’t suddenly not have any border patrol at all.
Yes, and ...
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 1:19pm
ICE does not do border patrol. CBP does that.
ICE didn’t exist before 2003,
By elise
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 5:53pm
ICE didn’t exist before 2003, if we got by in the 90s without them we can get by now
Really?
By lbb
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 9:43am
You act as if ICE was here when Washington crossed the Delaware. They're a recent invention. Valid immigration functions were subsumed under DHS which proceeded to screw them up royally - those functions need to be done but not by that pack of disgraceful clowns. Hell, they're not even doing them, they're just running buck wild with zero accountability. Google sometime to find out why CBP and ICE have never been able to hire up to allocations: it's because the kind of people who want the job can't even pass their low-bar screening. It's a thug job and it attracts thugs.
Were we just going to ask the
By anon
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 9:52am
Were we just going to ask the Nazis to change some of their policies? That doesn't make sense.
There is no fixing a group of guys who fantasize about beating up and shooting brown people. I don't agree with giving these hicks another cent of our tax dollars. Abolish.
Ice isn't the issue.
By Pete Nice
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:35pm
The profiling is the issue.
ICE doesn't go around with 3 guys in a car looking for illegal immigrants. They are looking for drug traffickers and human traffickers.
What was the profile of the
By anon
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:39pm
What was the profile of the several dealers they arrested down MM the other day?
First, that wasn't ICE
By adamg
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:41pm
Second, BPD usually develops evidence before arresting somebody. Makes it easier to get a conviction in the long run. But you know that, right?
I agree Adam! I’ve been
By Nony
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 4:21pm
I agree Adam! I’ve been around my fair share of law enforcement officials most family and close friends who work for local, state and federal departments/agencies. These guys do not appear official at all! BPD and Feds need to look into this.
They were wanted and had warrants.
By Pete Nice
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:47pm
Those guys?
Ah, classic
By fungwah
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:46pm
Just a few bad apples, eh Pete?
Not sure.
By Pete Nice
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:51pm
How have you stopped the last few human traffickers that you caught and investigated? I don't really do that stuff so I would love to know.
Ohhh boy
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 5:06pm
You forgot the save the children hashtag there, Pete!
You can answer too swirls
By Pete Nice
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 5:07pm
How do you catch human traffickers?
I know how you don't catch them
By anon
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 6:40pm
Harassing random black people.
Gee, Pete!
By Brian Riccio
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 6:48pm
Will you be saying next that children are being held in the basement of Regina Pizza?
Just hang around the WH and
By NewAlt
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 7:56pm
Just hang around the WH and wait for dear leader to come out of the hospital
Oooh ooh pick me
By lbb
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 9:46am
Simple: I'll just have the circus ponies trample them to death. Where did I get the circus ponies, you say? The same place you got these "human traffickers".
IOW, put up or shut up, QAnon boy.
Everything can be forgiven if you just say human traffickers?
By Section77
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 10:09am
A guy is out jogging and the gestapo jumps on him and that is how you explain it away? I think you lost a lot of respect here Pete. Thought you were too smart for Q anon.
Me neither
By fungwah
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 5:12pm
but I'm sure there's probably tons of easily obtainable examples of human traffickers being stopped by grabbing and interrogating random people running by on the VFW Parkway. I bet it's a really common technique that works all the time so there's no reason why we should be worried about behavior like this!
And beyond that, I'm sure ICE is doing a great job at training their agents not to racially profile people, that's why this is the only example of that ever happening and it's not something to worry about or any reason to talk about reform or improvement. Nothing to see here, move along.
Great article about law
By Milwaukee Mike
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 6:06pm
Great article about law enforcement possibly using human trafficking--a popular cause celebre--as a fig leaf:
https://deadspin.com/what-was-really-going-on-at-o...
Thats a great article.
By ActualCamNewton
Thu, 10/08/2020 - 7:42am
Thats a great article. Something that really opened my eyes was the podcast You're Wrong About, specifically the episode called Stranger Danger. One of the hosts of the podcast also recently wrote the articles below.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/government-did-not-...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/futile-quest-hard-n...
ICE handles drug & human trafficking?
By anon
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 7:33pm
I didn't know that. It doesn't make sense to me, wouldn't other law enforcement agencies handle those crimes, once the people in question are away from the border? If ICE are just questioning random Black guys out for a run in West Roxbury, they aren't doing a very good job of it.
Immigration or Customs?
By SamWack
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 8:21am
Why is Immigration and Customs Enforcement looking for drug traffickers and human traffickers? Is it the Customs part? Are there now tariffs on drugs and humans?
If they are not citizens they get involved.
By Pete Nice
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 8:26am
nt
So
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 1:21pm
Random black people aren't citizens now?
Really?
Pages
Add comment