By adamg on Mon., 12/28/2020 - 10:39 am

Update: Turns out she grew up on Beacon Hill, so, yes, she's a Bostonian.

Until about 30 minutes ago, we here at the UHub hermitage in the hills had never heard of Hilaria Baldwin, a 'grammer and wife of one of the better Baldwin brothers, who had been claiming to have grown up in Spain, but came to the States when she was 19 and met the Baldwin and married him and lived a fabulous life and had his baby and did her own yoga show or something.

But it turns out it was not quite true, her mother would qualify for membership in the DAR and grew up in Longmeadow MA and Hilaria, or should we say, Hillary, now admits she grew up in Boston.

Except she didn't, according to the crack correspondents at the Daily Mail, who say she was in fact raised in Weston, and that's just going too far, because Weston is not Boston and now we're onto you. Cut that out.

Also, note to all the reporters now chasing this story, and here we train our gimlet eyes on you, New York Magazine, the Cambridge School of Weston, where this woman (we don't know what to call her anymore) went to school, is not "a private high school in Cambridge, Massachusetts." It is a private school in Weston, Massachusetts, which we'd have thought was clear from its name, but apparently not to New Yorkers.

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By Jay
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:53am

"Her parents moved to Mallorca, Spain in 2011."

If that's not Spanish, I don't know what is.

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By Sock_Puppet
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 11:01am

That's hilarious.

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By tblade
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 11:06am

The Daily Mail is notoriously sloppy, so it may be that the author sees that Hilaria neé Hilary graduated from the Cambridge School of Weston and then assumes she lived in the community that she attended school in.

But we locals know that is a private school that attracts students from many communities and has a residential program for students from far away.

Others - and take this with a boulder of salt - have mentioned she may have grown up in Cambridge or Needham. I’m just sayin’ read the Mail with a critical eye.

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By MrZip
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 11:14am

Ack! Head filled with more useless information about someone I do not care to know, not in this life. If I could only both cancel her AND delete all related files from my brain so I would have more space for useful facts like the words to the Circus Fun cereal TV ad song.

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By tblade
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 12:46pm

I’m typically not one for People Magazine or TMZ type entertainment “news”, but the IG story outlining Mrs Baldwin’s charade was exceedingly more entertaining than WW1984 and way less depressing than the unfolding events in Nashville.

It’s good holiday time pop culture junk food.

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By anon
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 11:14am

Show business.

Who does care? A few more important things to take up Internet real estate.

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By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 1:56pm

That guy has serious anger management problems.

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By mseskin
Tue, 12/29/2020 - 12:41am

Still better than Stephen.

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By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 2:07pm

They are like the lillies of the field - they neither toil, nor do they spin.

Actually, they aren't even producing biomass or recirculating nutrients like lillies do.

I think the less kind term for them is "virulent parasite".

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By Bob Leponge
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 4:24pm

We all have our origin myths. And the moment you decide to monetize your identity by declaring yourself to be “an influencer,” your origin story becomes fair game for scrutiny and ridicule.

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 4:40pm

Don’t you let those pesky influencers get away with nothin’!!!

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 4:40pm

Don’t you let those pesky influencers get away with nothin’!!!

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By Ron Newman
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 6:00pm

If we aren't trying to influence other people, why are we here on this forum (and others)?

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By Bob Leponge
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 6:24pm

You and I are indeed trying to influence other people, but neither of us is whoring out our online selves or our friends or our social media followers for commercial gain.

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By Bob Leponge
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 7:57pm

Is the difference between, on the one hand, a sales person working in a store, and, on the other, that friend who invites you to what you thought was going to be a social gathering, until you find out that its a pitch to enroll you in some MLM thing, at which point you realize that you weren’t a friend but just a prospect.

Classy people draw a bright clear line between their personal and their.commercial dealings

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:03pm

... don’t assume internet influencers are their friends.

Sorry you got hurt.

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By Bob Leponge
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:49pm

I haven’t been hurt by anyone in this context. I don’t actually give a shit about this woman individually, other than to loathe the social / commercial phenomenon she represents.

To take an example, since they posted in this thread, although I don’t personally know Ron Newman or Adam Gaffin, they have developed a reputation that would cause me to take seriously their recommendations for movies, theater, local events, etc. if I were to find out that they had started to get paid for recommending things and weren’t disclosing that fact, I would think less of them and would feel somewhat betrayed.

It’s not a particularly complicated idea.

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 7:16pm

.... flack for variations in her speech. This is not unusual for bi or multilinguals. It’s not always easy to switch from one language to another. Especially when you are tired, stressed or whatever. I guess that’s something some monolinguals don’t understand.

People don’t always speak with the same accent or vocabulary even when they are speaking the same language. They often aren’t even aware of it.

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By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:11pm

Someone dug up a video of her saying " how you say in English? Cucumber?" She was born and raised in the United States not Spain so if she forgot how to say Cucumber she is either incredibly stupid or a liar....we now know she's a liar,

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:20pm

You are clearly monolingual.
You also seem to think the only language spoken in the US is English.

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By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:33pm

She is multilingual but but her first language is English not Spanish.

It appears that Hilaria’s real name is Hillary Hayward-Thomas, according to her old MySpace page and those who claim to be her old classmates. She attended the private Cambridge School of Weston, in Massachusetts, and in her senior yearbook is listed as “Hillary Hayward-Thomas”

Her Mother Moved to Spain in 2011 and she followed her...
She has claimed she was Born in Spain and moved to the USA and it's the opposite, she moved to Spain as an adult. I guess she could have a Spanish accent, but I doubt it.

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:41pm

Why anyone would is beyond me.

If you have no experience expressing yourself in more than one language, you can only go by what those who do can tell you.

I don’t know her circumstances but people have learned second languages and lost proficiency in their first one. Or got stuck momentarily in one. It happens. Even if you think it’s impossible.

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By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:46pm

But you were quick to chastise me,
I guess In a few years one could lose the ability to remember how to say cucumber and gain a Spanish accent....I suppose that could happen, but it's highly unlikely, She's a fraud.

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 8:56pm

Unlikely according to you. Believe what you want to believe.

I have no idea if this woman is a “fraud” or not. I’ve never heard her speak. But momentarily forgetting the English word for cucumber or some other word and having trouble adjusting between phonetical systems does happen to people. Just never to you apparently.

Whatever identity this woman want to claim is her business. What’s the big deal?

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By Waquiot
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 9:55pm

12+ years of prep school education in the Boston area and having parents who were born and raised in the USA as well would indicate someone who would know the word “cucumber” in English.

What’s your opinion on Rachel Dolezal? Was what she did okay?

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By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:06pm

I have friends and coworkers who speak languages other than English and they find her stereotypical and fake "help me" game to be highly offensive.

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:36pm

But if they speak more than one language they know exactly what I’m talking about concerning confusion between languages when you are fluent in more than one.

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By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:42pm

This has nothing to do with familiarity with language. She is a native and fluent English speaker who has been pretending not to be.

This is a con. An act. And offensive act at that - not much different than blackface.

Just keep repeating yourself on a loop. Over and over. You seem unfamiliar with the whole Baysian paradigm of incorporating new information.

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:36pm

But if they speak more than one language they know exactly what I’m talking about concerning confusion between languages when you are fluent in more than one.

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By Chokmah
Tue, 12/29/2020 - 12:14pm

There are millions of actual immigrants in this country who are not able to bank on their accent or name. In fact, they get passed over for job offers, promotions, or letters of recommendations. This rich anglo woman decided to make herself appear exotic for money. It's tone deaf privilege.

I don't care if she speaks several languages. It's not her fluency. It's the cultural identity she co-opted that matters.

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By Waquiot
Tue, 12/29/2020 - 2:42pm

And yes, in my second and third languages, I could not think of the word for cucumber, mainly because I learned these languages while in high school and, most importantly, I grew up in an English speaking community the child of English speaking parents whose parents also spoke English. This means I'm kind of like this Baldwin woman, except that one of my grandparents actually spoke a language other than English as a child, and that I did not grow up on Beacon Hill.

Still, if she identifies as someone whose primary language is not English, does that make it so, regardless of evidence to the contrary?

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By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 9:56pm

Like most things posted on here, it's either interesting enough to comment or it's not.

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By Bob Leponge
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:03pm

She is getting flak because she is phony, not because her accent is phony.

The principle that people ought to be left alone to live their own lives goes out the window the minute they start promoting themselves as public figures.

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By Terrapin
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 7:27pm

This indefensible apparition of a woman is defined as an influencer by and regarded as still viable in polite society by woke anti-Trumpers solely because she is married to a loathsome man with a long history of horribleness because he successfully mocked Trump on SNL.

We have no hope.

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By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:10pm

She doesn't seem to be particularly popular with the reality-based (aka "woke anti-trumpers") folks around these parts.

I don't seem to remember anyone excusing Baldwin's shitty abusive parenting, either.

Anyone who has ever worked in a diverse professional environment or an international setting should consider her fake Spanish act to be offensive and antagonistic.

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:40pm

“Anyone who has ever worked in a diverse professional environment or an international setting should consider her fake Spanish act to be offensive and antagonistic.”

Omg. You are a clown! Now we are ordered share your opinion. Once again the expert of everything.

LOL!

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By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:44pm

Seriously. Get help. You do this on every single thread with every commenter now: form antagonistic and uninformed and fact free assertion and repeat repeat repeat.

That isn't an argument or a discussion: that is pathological.

https://www.mass.gov/guides/finding-mental-health-...

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By Lee
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:54pm

... to someone with your ego to have the last word so I’ll let you have it.

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By lbb
Tue, 12/29/2020 - 9:41am

...you proceed to not do that.

You really do seem to have issues. Maybe get that checked out.

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By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/29/2020 - 11:23am

My post described the observed repeated inappropriate pattern of behavior, and included a link for seeking assistance.

Mental stress is already a serious public health problem. Pandemic isolation + winter + social strain is exacerbating that existing problem.

If you think that merely mentioning potential mental health issues is an "insult" then I think that you may want to examine your own issues surrounding the subject.

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By anon
Wed, 12/30/2020 - 11:46pm

You didn't say it out of care for the person you were arguing with.

You effectively said, "you're a mental case", as a put-down.

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By Terrapin
Mon, 12/28/2020 - 10:47pm

Come on Swirls, you LOVED Alec on SNL! I believe in doing do you excused him so please forgive me if I call BS on your post. You laughed at a man who publicly abused his 12 year old daughter.

My point is that if it weren't for his ridicule of Trump, as a couple they would have been cancelled already by the woke for appropriating a Hispanic identity. And the NYT would be printing editorials celebrating the cancellation.

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By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/29/2020 - 12:20am

I actually loathe Baldwin. He's not all that funny as Trump, either. His SNL interp of Trump works only because it takes a bloviating narcissist with anger management problems to know one.

The SNL cold opens are hillarious because of Larry David, Kate McKinnon (especially her) Rachel Dratch, Maya Rudolph, Jason Sudeikis and others who do such great character work. I think the antics are better without Baldwin around - like the send up of Giuliani and Boones Farm Melissa the voting machine screen cleaner effing nailed it!

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