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Developer proposes bus service between Nubian Square and its planned R&D building on the South Boston waterfront
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Great Idea
Does the MBTA allow shuttle buses to use their terminals? They don't allow BPS buses to drop off kids inside stations.
The proposed shuttle route
The proposed shuttle route from Dudley Station to 24 Dry Dock Avenue would utilize Warren Street, Washington Street, Melnea Cass Boulevard, Massachusetts Avenue Connector, I-93 Frontage Road, South Boston Bypass, Massport Haul Road, Northern Avenue, Tide Street, and finally Dry Dock Avenue. The return route would follow roughly the same route with some minor adjustments to account for short stretches of one-way streets.
I was going to suggest a designation of CT-3-EX (for "extended"), but it diverges from CT-3 much further back.
How about 66-S (for "Seaport")?
Great idea
I think the 66s is a great idea!!! 20 3 20 seat vans are not going to cut it.
Ray Flynn Marine Park
When the area was dedicated in honor of Ray Flynn the name was altered. The word INDUSTRIAL was omitted. Now the BPDA can do an end around on businesses that are related to marine industrial uses.
This is an example of it.
You're right!
Dunno how I've been missing that all these years, but, yeah, no more "Industrial" in the name of the "industrial park."
BPDA also ignores the Enabling Act
rather than follow the process to amend the Zoning Code, they simply change the City by fiat.
I’m all for honoring Ray
I’m all for honoring Ray Flynn, but it seems silly that they named the Marine Park and the bridge over the Reserved Channel and the Cruiseport for him. Pick one!
Wasn't this the promise of
Wasn't this the promise of the silver bus when it was downgraded from being a light rail line like Brookline and Newton have to a bus? A one seat ride from Nubian sq to the airport and seaport. Still waiting for that,entrance the state should work to make that happen instead of piecemeal company by company private shuttles that don't integrate with the system.
Washington St...
Did not have light rail service. It was elevated rail -- specifically, the Orange Line to/from Forest Hills via Egleston and Nubian.
Elevated structures are generally much less pleasant for residents than the fully-separated, at-grade light rail that one finds in Brookline and Newton.
Considering the history of
Considering the history of the MBTA and their current hesitation to do ANYTHING.... establishing a popular and well used private line that documents demand and creates a userbase for that line might be the impetus to force them to do something. Unlike the original consolidation of the system though they probably won't buy the assets of the line and just say "ours now" though. Too bad.
If you mention Brookline and
If you mention Brookline and Newton as having light rail, you should also mention Mission Hill, Allston, East Cambridge, and Mattapan.
GD Silver Line
The silver line is such a massive disappointment. Isn’t this exactly what the promise was?
I'm sorry...
... the problem isn't the physical distance separating people from opportunity. It's that the employer occupying that site (with the opportunity) wont hire those in need.
I really do think we're going to be running these empty shuttles so the city approves the developers plan.... at least their community concession "feels good." This is all getting ridiculous.
Typical "this'll never work" attitude
Someone offers to do the right thing and naysayers jump in to criticize and say, "No one will use that bus." Well let's let this play out and just SEE what happens. If the attitude is always, "That won't work" then everyone who could help will just eventually stop making the effort.
1st floor retail
I wish they'd use the first floor for retail space. I used to work across the street, and that area is a wasteland.
Every 10 to 15 minutes...
Has Jon Cronin ever fancied a drive from the Seaport to Nubian Sq. via Melnea Cass? If he thinks three of those Seaport shuttle busses are going to be running like clockwork between the two at all times of day and keeping a schedule then he's in for some serious disappointment.
Also, has some life sciences community sprouted up overnight in Roxbury that's in need of shuttle service to the Seaport or is this some fantasy play that will end the minute the tenants decide not to pay for it?
Yes, that Drydock property needs a 21st century makeover but there's no need for a beer garden magnate cum luxury building developer to play it like there's an inherent community benefit in something so superficial and temporary like a corporate shuttle service.
For 3 vehicles to provide
For 3 vehicles to provide service every 10 minutes, they would need to complete a round trip in 30 minutes, including boarding time and a buffer for delays. That’s not possible.