A small but boisterous group of Boston first responders has come up with a way to protest Boston's impending vaccination requirement: Everybody files for exemptions the night before the mandate goes into effect, then when the city moves to terminate them, claim their vacation time so the city still has to pay them while adjudicating their claims - and forcing the city to hire expensive replacements.
The group, Boston First Responders United, sent out details of its plan for mass religious exemptions last night to the roughly 350 people on its mailing list. By contrast, Boston has roughly 2,100 police officers, 1,600 firefighters and 400 EMTs and paramedics.
Leaders of the two main unions who represent first-responder rank and file have been battling the city over the imposition of a vaccine mandate as a collective-bargaining issue: If the city wants to require vaccinations, they have to bargain with the unions to give up something in return.
But this new group says screw that, they don't want shots, period, because they claim vaccines violate their God-given rights to preserve their holy immune systems and, they claim, to protect pregnant first responders and others with what they say are legitimate health reasons not to get shots that can reduce the spread of a deadly virus. They vow to fight what they call tyrannical plans by politicians to deprive them of their freedom, their jobs and even their cars.

Some members have also used the city 311 system to attack union leaders, in particular Ed Kelly, formerly head of the Boston firefighters union, but now president of the International Association of Fire Fighters.
In their plans, leaders of Boston First Responders United provide a sample statement first responders can use to demand a religious exemption at 10:45 p.m. on Jan. 14 - which is when the group says everybody should file their demands for exemptions, just before the start of the new city shot requirement on Jan. 15:
I am notifying you that I am exempt from this activity based on my sincerely held religious beliefs. God created me with an immune system and I will not alter his design. It is a sin against my God-given conscience to allow unwanted intrusions into my body which is a temple of the Holy Spirit.
That statement was written by Peggy Hall, an Orange County, CA anti-mask activist who now fights vaccines, in part by selling cards that claim bearers have a right under federal law to ignore local mask mandates, which they do not.
Under the vaccination mandate announced by Mayor Wu, city workers will have to show proof they have gotten at least one shot by Jan. 15, and a second by Feb. 15, if they don't get the one-shot Johnson and Johnson vaccine. Failure to do so can mean being placed on unpaid leave. Wu said today that roughly 90% of city workers have already gotten their shots.
When the state announced a similar mandate earlier this year, the union representing state troopers claimed many would fight rather than get a shot. To date, after the union lost in court, one state trooper has been terminated, although several dozen more are awaiting disciplinary action.
The first-responder group says they are ready to grind out the system through delay:

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Doses
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:09pm
What’s the survival rate for Hep B?
You didn’t seriously reference the HPV vax did you? Are you referring to Gardasil? If you are, please never reference that again before reviewing the catastrophic outcomes and outright lies that took place.
Of course my case is not what happened to everyone - my unvaxxed college buddy got it (actually before me) and got walloped. Regardless, the survival rate is in the 99% neighborhood.
Priorities...
By Anon
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 1:05am
They manufactured quickly because there's a pandemic and put everything else on hold.
If you're out doing errands and get a call a loved one is in the hospital, do you drop everything to see them OR finish your less important things to do? Maybe then you'll understand how a business can pivot based on priority...
Understood... but..
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:12pm
If I get a call from a loved one, I’d drop everything, of course... but I can’t do 100 things at once and be several places at the same time... it’s not possible.
Capacity is what it is - it cannot be expanded over night.... I don’t think they have the manpower or facilities to do what they did. The media fawns all over every vaccine related thing... if these companies built a 100,000 foot manufacturing facility, we all would’ve known.
Huge favor
By Doug1001
Sat, 01/01/2022 - 2:18am
The lawyer who made the FOIA request to the FDA wrote this.... if you read this and still defend these criminals, I’d love to know why.
These people do not deserve your trust... stop giving it to them.
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/the-fda-wants-to-...
Liar
By brianjdamico
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 10:59am
"untested" and "nothing to stop transmission" are not factual statements.
How much time do you have to do some thoughtful reading? You can start here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines...
CDC
By Doug1001
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 11:05am
They said it does not stop transmission...when did they say otherwise? I like fairy tales too.
You said it does *nothing* to stop transmission
By brianjdamico
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 11:18am
They say it still prevents infections in a significant percentage of the population. You can’t transmit a virus if the virus doesn’t infect you in the first place. That’s not “nothing”
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines...
Hmmm...
By Doug1001
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 12:29pm
Fauci said the vaxxed and unvaxxed carry identical viral loads and called the vaxxed “super spreaders”
Rochelle Walensky said (3 months after saying “the science is settled”) that the shots don’t stop transmission.
These were both on CNN and MSNBC - how did you miss them?
You probably believe the recent ABC headline that says “the flu is back as scheduled after taking a year off” too.
Fauci said that the amount of
By cinnamngrl
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 12:01pm
Fauci said that the amount of virus in the nasopharynx was almost identical. He did not say that the viral load in the body was identical. The takaway there is that we should all wear masks.
He did say the viral load was identical
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:34pm
I can’t remember whether he specified body or not....
They also said this week that cloth masks aren’t appropriate for this virus and we all need N95s.
I remember because I looked
By cinnamngrl
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:47pm
I remember because I looked it up instead making up stuff.
I listened to him say it... it was also 6 months ago...
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 4:24pm
I can’t remember if he specified nose or not - I just said it.... awkward...
Did you read that link for 5 minutes or you still nervous?
Doug
By Somebody Else.
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 12:06pm
You're spreading disinformation regarding lifesaving practices. Stop it. Correct and publicly-available information is widely available, and you're welcome to avail yourself of it.
Stop it...
By Doug1001
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 12:22pm
Get the shots if you want, or don’t if you don’t want to. It changes the lives of those around you by a factor of 0%....
Doug
By brianjdamico
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 12:28pm
you clearly do not understand the concept of public health. That's a real shame, especially for those closest to you, but also, for all of us.
Explain it to me...
By Doug1001
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 12:32pm
If you’re lucky, the shots will reduce your own symptoms. If you’re unlucky, they won’t. If you’re unlucky, you’ll be harmed by them.
I know plenty of vaxxed who have gotten it and had bad symptoms, plenty who had mild ones, plenty of unvaxxed with bad symptoms, plenty with mild ones (I’m in that group).
But we all need to take the shots as an act of love and to protect each other.
Makes sense.
Reduced symptoms means
By cinnamngrl
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 9:38am
Reduced symptoms means reduced transmission. Less coughing, less virus in the air.
The shots help the recipient only...
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:38pm
Nobody ever gave a shit who got a flu shot, because it doesn’t affect other people in any way. These shots behave the same way... note, I am not comparing the viruses themselves. I am comparing the characteristics of the shots.
Mandates do not help society in any measurable way....
Hey Doug, fuck off
By brianjdamico
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:49pm
or stop lying.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-benefits.htm
Brian - see a therapist without political affiliations...
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:56pm
You need help - I told you this 5 years ago in the midst of another of your unhinged outbursts.
You haven’t gotten better - make time for your mental health.
Since you won’t, and you accuse me of being a liar, read this for 5 minutes and provide your thoughts afterwards.. these regulatory agencies that make you all hot and bothered are laughing in your face...
Also, please use an online dictionary and determine what the word “may” means.... as that word is used to describe the vax in the quote you referenced
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/the-fda-wants-to-...
Bye Doug
By adamg
Wed, 01/05/2022 - 5:01pm
I have enough problems without worrying about your denialism.
“Untested” is a lie.
By tblade
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 11:40am
They’ve been testing mRNA for +20 years. GTFO.
How did those animal trials go?
By Doug1001
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 12:33pm
They went well right?
In those 20 years of testing mRNA, were they testing for Covid too?
GTFOH
Lots of logic
By Will LaTulippe
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 12:41pm
Says the guy who stated "Shots which do not stop transmission" as if anyone was arguing that they did.
What’s the point of mandates then?
By Doug1001
Sat, 01/01/2022 - 12:39am
Your president and the head of the CDC told us numerous times that the shots stop the spread. At least the head of the CDC stopped lying after 3 months or so.
Mandates accomplish nothing....
"Your president"
By brianjdamico
Sat, 01/01/2022 - 9:16am
Okay there...
Telling on himself
By lbb
Sat, 01/01/2022 - 11:39am
Like, right out the gate.
Notice how all these "your president" types never walk their talk and just leave?
Short memory you have....
By Doug1001
Sat, 01/01/2022 - 9:04pm
We were both here for the “nOt My PrEsIdEnT” mania...you and the others here probably said this (roughly) 3,442,101 times... now I can’t even joke about it......
I haven’t left - responded to every reply I’ve noticed.
You’re doing well so far though...proud of you.
MMS
By perruptor
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 7:39am
More Made-up Shit. I don't recall anyone here writing that. You claim it was written thousands of times. Go ahead and show us two.
You’ve been here just as long as I have...
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:40pm
What was written about Trump here during his era? People accepted the election outcome and declared him president? Riiiiiight.
So you can't find even two
By perruptor
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 8:10pm
So you can't find even two people saying 'not my president.' Which means you made it up. Take your trolling to some other pond, why don't you?
Look it up...
By Doug1001
Mon, 01/03/2022 - 2:24pm
I’m busy pointing out the lack of transparency from the CDC/FDA to cinnamon girl here and addressing her stupid copy and paste hatchet job. Bigger fish to fry...
Full of it
By perruptor
Mon, 01/03/2022 - 4:55pm
You're full of it. You claim people here said 'not my president' thousands of times, but can't show us even two. Just take your idiot lawyer wallpaper and go away. That fish you're frying started to rot weeks ago, and you're stinking the place up.
Is there an easy way to search?
By Doug1001
Tue, 01/04/2022 - 1:35am
Never tried it... if you know a shortcut, I’ll look.
What do I win if I find two instances? Can you help get the CDC to release the data they’re hiding?
Not rocket science
By perruptor
Tue, 01/04/2022 - 8:29am
If you don't know how to search a website for a specific phrase, you should figure it out. It's not my job to teach you. And if there are anything like the thousands of instances of that phrase that you claim, the search should take seconds.
What would you win? Maybe an iota of credibility. Maybe.
It is rocket science, actually...
By Doug1001
Tue, 01/04/2022 - 12:00pm
You’re much smarter than me, as evidenced by you taking 3 vaccine doses in less than a year and me relying on horse dewormer and vitamins to cure Covid. What an asshole I am huh? I drank water from a trough today too.
I’ll try to figure it out, but if you could help a single digit IQ conspiracy theorist like myself, it would shorten the process.
Done
By perruptor
Wed, 01/05/2022 - 6:54am
No more. I'm not taking your bait anymore. Take your trolling somewhere else.
"My president"
By Will LaTulippe
Sat, 01/01/2022 - 9:30pm
Wait, are you implying my citizenship, or are you implying my voting record? I'll clarify both:
Citizenship: United States of America, Medical Center Hospital of Vermont, Burlington, VT, November 9, 1983, which would make my president Joe Biden.
Voting record:
2016 primary (Note that I am an unenrolled Massachusetts voter, and that I am free to select a ballot in the primary) - Democrat ballot, Bernie Sanders
2016 general - Gary Johnson
2020 primary - Democrat ballot, Bernie Sanders
2020 general - Jo Jorgensen
So, with your use of "Your president", you:
1) Aren't yourself a U.S. citizen (That's okay, I'm not a moron who thinks that borders are unmalleable, nor do I like that they exist)
And/or
2) Guessed incorrectly about my voting record.
If #2 is correct, it's usually helpful in trying to win debates to be, you know, correct.
You got way too deep here....
By Doug1001
Sun, 01/02/2022 - 3:42pm
I explained elsewhere - thanks for the thorough reply to a misinterpretation though... no harm done... it happens.
"this isn't the country we want our children growing up in"
By Bobb
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 3:23pm
Well, on that we agree. We'd rather you not be raising children in this country, either.
What kind of deranged parent
By anon
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:18pm
What kind of deranged parent wants to raise their child in a country where preventable diseases cause millions of unnecessary deaths?
Someone needs to have an elderly person who experienced the horrible fear of losing a child to an epidemic tell these people what exactly they're asking for.
I grew up with friends in leg
By Robin
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 7:26pm
I grew up with friends in leg braces due to polio. One girl whose mother fainted in the hospital when confronted with the iron lung being wheeled into her room. One of my aunts was post polio.
I caught measles in my mid 20s - just before the measles vaccines came out. It was a horrible experience. I'm lucky I didn't have permanent eye damage.
Vaccines are WONDERFUL.
Polio
By eeka
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 1:57pm
is a great comparison actually.
Most people who contract it have flu-like symptoms, and it's usually limited to the gastrointestinal system and doesn't involve nerve damage.
We've made massive efforts to largely eradicate it because of the small percentage of people who went on to have lifelong severe breathing problems.
Those of us who are responsible need to do the same thing for COVID. Sure, I would most likely be fine if I contracted it, but it isn't my right to risk killing someone's grandma or someone's kid with cancer.
(And yes, of course there are a number of additional factors with polio that get discussed in disability studies, like how the outbreaks coincided with time periods in which we were focused on competition with certain other nations and needing able-bodied men for inevitable wars and war-stuff factories, and also time periods in which needing leg braces or a cane meant you were a complete invalid who was unwelcome in school and unemployable and unmarriageable. The comparison still mostly works though, and it's also interesting/infuriating because so many of those refusing the vaccine and transmission-reduction efforts for this pandemic are the ones who claim to be extremely patriotic.)
the same
By cybah
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 9:23am
The same parents who bring their kid to a school board meeting and make him say "I'm cute why would you want to cover up my cute face"
way to go.. throw your kid under the school bus to further your agenda. I feel sorry for that kid.. a lifetime of therapy is in store for him
Vaccines and vaccine mandates
By anon
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 3:24pm
Vaccines and vaccine mandates are so Old Hat these chicken little clowns are n00bs
Yep
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 4:08pm
First city and state actions during an epidemic were in the 1790s
First challenge to a quarantine that went to the Supreme Court (and went down in flames): 1820s.
There is a reason that nearly every challenge to a mandate has been quickly shoved aside: 200 years of case law. This ain't our first epidemic or pandemic and it won't be the last. Pandemics aren't new and their control measures aren't either - and the laws and rights people assume they have (and don't) aren't magically materializing out of thin air just because this is happening to them right now.
Note the Attack on Ed Kelly
By anon
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 3:35pm
Ed was a fearless, often tactless, bare-knuckle brawler when it came to defending Boston firefighters' rights and benefits. He went up against the mayor and the city over and over again but he fought a) to keep firefighters as safe as they could be from smoke, fire, and cancer and b) to provide some kind of safety net for union members' families if and when they fell.
This is the opposite. These guys should be ashamed of themselves.
Boston's First Responders
By g
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 3:43pm
aren't dumb enough to waste their vacation time on this crap.
For those who are dumb enough, watch that screen door on the way out.
Legal chance of success - 0.0
By anon
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 3:43pm
Mr Blutarsky….
Blutarsky was neither pre-law
By Rob
Sat, 01/01/2022 - 8:55pm
Blutarsky was neither pre-law nor pre-med... though he did go on to be a United States Senator.
Otter was pre-law... well... pre-med.
Too clever
By Annon
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 3:45pm
- If they all file the same form letter should make it easy to reject en masse.
- Their medical records probably have history of other vaccinations since people didn’t used to treat basic medical science as a political issue, so this statement in particular is very easy to disprove as a “sincerely held” medical belief. If I were in charge I might even go after them for perjury but I’m happy enough to see them fired.
Fuck 'em
By Ron Newman
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 4:16pm
Nuf said.
Pregnant first responders need vaccines!
By mg
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 4:17pm
OB/GYNs are pleading with their patients to get vaccinated. Those who catch covid during pregnancy are more likely to have miscarriages or stillbirths, and possibly other complications.
But these numbskulls
By Ari O
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:40pm
Read something on the Facebook that vaccines cause infertility or something.
Excuse me, that's Doctor Facebook, M.D. to you
By brianjdamico
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:47pm
n/t
Also, 2,100 cops?
By Will LaTulippe
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 4:40pm
That's one for every 268 Bostonians between the ages of 5 and 65 (because I can't imagine a scenario where I need to be protected from someone outside of that age range).
Can you name 268 Bostonians with whom you're on a name basis? If so, how many of them do you fear? This is what I mean when I say that police departments are overstaffed.
Source: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/bostoncitymassac...
Well
By SamWack
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:27pm
I've known some pretty fearsome four-year-olds. Still, a few five-year-old cops could probably handle them.
There's more to Boston than Bostonians
By adamg
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:39pm
All those suburbanites who work (well, worked) here. And tourists. Oh, and college students.
And the police are a 24/7/365
By HighGuard
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 6:24pm
And the police are a 24/7/365 kinda group
That math might make sense
By ScottB
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 7:34pm
If each cop worked 168 hours per week. But they don't. Ignoring overtime, there's going to be an average of roughly 500 on duty at any given time; more during the day/evening, fewer overnight. That's more like one for every 1,000 in your target age range.
2100 cops.
By Rob
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 11:01pm
2100 cops.
At a minimum, you'd divide those into at least 5 groups.
You need at least four groups (if not more) to cover 21 active shifts over a 7-day week - plus one group that consists of everybody on vacation or sick leave at the moment.
Weekday day shift might be higher-staffing than any other time - officers on court duty, officers on training time - but special units might be busier at night. Anyway, let's pretend that at most, 1/5th the force is on-duty at any given time.
420.
420 divided by staffing how many area stations? Staffing HQ? On actual patrol? With some standard/goal of maintaining enough on while somebody gets a meal break? With some standard/goal of being able to have enough flexibility/reserve on duty to respond immediately to an emergency of some size and still have capacity to respond to another emergency.
It adds up quickly.
420?
By eeka
Fri, 12/31/2021 - 2:03pm
They don't need to enforce that anymore though.
I don't think they thought this through
By brianjdamico
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 4:40pm
"We'll all put in our papers together, to jam them up, then we will all use all of the paid time off so they can't deal with our individual cases right away."
I'd guess that most people voluntarily leaving a job, public or private, are going to burn their earned time off before they leave that job, so I'm not going to lose any sleep over paying them their time off. But if your plan was to jam up the process, artificially forcing it to take weeks longer to even start will allow HR to work through it while you are no longer showing up to work, meaning that everyone working is now vaccinated, which was the ultimate goal of the mandate.
Of course they didn't think
By Will LaTulippe
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 4:43pm
Why would somebody who can ever take a government job?
Will
By brianjdamico
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 4:48pm
I could sit here and come up with some really good reasons why good people would take a government job, and why I'm glad that so many of them do it, but I know that my effort would be entirely wasted on you.
Yeah,
By SamWack
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:31pm
that Abe Lincoln, sucking at the government teat half his life. Never a thought in his head. What a loser.
(No subject)
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 9:01pm
[img]https://i0.wp.com/organizing.work/wp-content/uploa...
They're pretty dense
By Ari O
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:42pm
And getting organized to do this is probably well beyond the scope of their small minds.
Also, if you want people to do something, you write a bulleted list they can follow, not a WORD SALAD with random ... ellipses and no paragraphing.
Anyway, I hope Mayor Wu makes sure that anyone's religious exemption filed on Jan 1 is fast-tracked to rejection.
That's the best part
By lbb
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 8:48pm
That's the best part: watching entitled dorks who have always had all the rules and all the system on their side, and then suddenly they're on the outs, and they have to try to find a way to get what they want when they're not in charge of everything. It's hilarious watching them fall around and shoot their toes off.
I'd also REALLY like it if faith leaders took it upon themselves to make public statements to the effect of "Yeah, this is a load of malarkey, and here's why." I can't imagine being a sincere follower of a religion and not absolutely hating the way people use it as a fig leaf for every toxic thing they want to do.
The most obscene thing here
By Refugee
Thu, 12/30/2021 - 5:48pm
The most obscene thing here has nothing to do with COVID vaccine mandates. It's the City's practice of doling out a full year's worth of vacation and sick time at the beginning of the year.
Pretty much every other employer grants leave on a monthly or weekly basis. You work for a month, and you earn one day off. Handing it out to everyone in a lump is nonsensical. All it does it make a donation from taxpayers to retiring employees.
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