By adamg on Sat., 4/2/2022 - 11:20 pm
Update: The Globe reports the two people in the car were hospitalized and the the brawl may have started when the dirtbikers through rocks at the car.
DinkerDunkerJones was among the diners at Lucy's American Tavern at Granite Avenue and Gallivan Boulevard in Dorchester who suddenly had front-row seats to a brawl that followed what appeared to be a driver ramming a dirt biker on purpose at the McDonald's across the street this afternoon:
Ed. note: The original poster has taken the video down, but nothing ever really dies on the Internet, so you can watch it via a link below in the comments.
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I want that driver on my team in a rumble
By anon
Sat, 04/02/2022 - 11:31pm
None of the onlookers even thought to open the door and at least yell hey the cops are coming.
Were the cops really coming?
By Notfromboston
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 1:30pm
Were the cops really coming? Aren't they had more important things to do.
Aren't you have more important things to do?
By brianjdamico
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 12:55pm
Translator fail
By Brent Jeffries
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 1:42pm
n/t
No
By ShamusJP
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 1:05pm
No they doesn’t.
Nope. They weren't coming.
By Greg
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 11:21pm
Nope. They weren't coming. Get used to it. No matter what a cop did in this situation, they would have been attacked by the media, politicians and the community.
Just stay away. I had diarrhea tell your Commander. Don't risk your life, career, or freedom.
It seems that
By Iwuzzn'tthere
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 5:15am
the tweet that you posted is not active anymore but I found this elsewhere. I'm unsure of copyright rules or cookie placements.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/tv1...
Yep, that's it
By adamg
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 12:37pm
Lesson: Be careful when you post anything online because chances are somebody's going to download it and repost it somewhere.
Some quality burns in that
By Rob
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 1:15pm
Some quality burns in that commbox. We all need to raise our game.
Update update
By adamg
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 8:18pm
The original poster didn't delete their video, just made their account private. Same effect if you're not following him, however.
Broken tweet if you’re not logged in to Twitter
By NL
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 6:30am
Adam, you might not be aware of this, but Twitter has seemingly started “cracking down†on readers who don’t have a Twitter account, and most tweets are blocked if you’re not signed in - specifically tweets are being replaced by a splash page, forcing you to log in or create an account if you want to read the tweet.
I can’t see what the article’s embedded tweet says: the text appears for a half second and gets replaced by a button inviting me to “Explore what’s happening on Twitter†with a link to log in. This is true even in incognito mode.
I don’t have a good answer since screenshotting everything is annoying. But due to an apparent change in Twitter policy, embedded Tweets no longer work for many readers. I got rid of my Twitter account a while ago due to privacy/psychological concerns, and don’t intend on coming back, but I am concerned about being blocked from a lot of information about current events.
In this case ...
By adamg
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 12:37pm
The author took it down.
Privacy be damned
By It is worse tha...
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 10:57am
I also noticed the force login to read some Twitter posts but apparently it is not universal (yet) since I can still see some that are "public." The suggestion is that maybe the Twitter account has limited access to those following them in some way, or people they follow.
Making matters worse, you don't need your password to login.
I use a Chrome browser (desktop) and have saved some passwords to the browser database to make logins a little quicker. When confronted with the forced login page I usually get a pop up screen that wants me to login and presents the account user name. It then wants me to enter the password to validate the login. So on a whim I "X"'d out the screen to see what had happened, and it did in fact login the account without that password validation. I've since repeated this.
So it is logging me in without typing a password and of course I have to physically log out after I find where they hid the logout button this month.
I don't think they are getting this from the saved passwords in my browser, and as noted I manually and fully logout, so the fact that their system is logging me in suggests that this is built in to the link to the post somehow.
Lots of security questions there.
You realize the Instagram isn
By anon
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 7:07am
You realize the Instagram isn't viewable by everyone?
Lucy's - Come For the Sports
By John Costello
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 8:35am
Get wowed by the floor show.
Glad to see the zeitgeist of Creeping In New Dot and Old Dot in a less than two minute video.
That account has gone protected
By erik g
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 11:07am
Is there a mirror somewhere? Or an account of what happened?
I think this is it
By toiletcake
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 11:39am
https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/tv1...
Just another driver who uses his motor vehicle ….
By Lee
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 12:26pm
…. as a lethal weapon. If he had been driving an SUV or Mega Truck, we would be looking at a murder scene.
I wonder
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 1:43pm
Was this just stupid violent entitled driver behavior or drunk stupid violent entitled driver behavior?
The driver seems too well in control …
By Lee
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 4:05pm
… of the vehicle to be drunk. Entitled, violent and stupid, no question!
The driver seems too well in control …
By Lee
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 4:06pm
… of the vehicle to be drunk. Entitled, violent and stupid, no question!
You’re both wrong
By anon
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 6:14pm
As usual!
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/03/metro/two-h...
And that's why we all need
By Notfromboston
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 1:31pm
And that's why we all need round the clock police details.
That's why we all need
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 1:41pm
Tighter controls on who is allowed to drive.
Ya because that will prevent unregistered
By robo
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 2:00pm
Illegal dirt bikes (and you know they don’t have any insurance too) causing chaos on the streets.
What it will prevent
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 2:58pm
Dirt bags on dirt bikes from eventually driving more damaging vehicles like "respectable citizens" with fucktard pickups that they use to bully other road users.
That’s brilliant! Let’s blame dirt bike riders…
By Lee
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 3:44pm
…. for chaos in the streets. So we don’t have to deal with real issues. Problem solved!
You clearly don’t live in the city
By robo
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 3:57pm
They’re a menace to the streets. Just because they’re a menace doesn’t mean drivers aren’t a problem too. You realize that, right?
Hahahahaha!
By Lee
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 4:00pm
You clearly are clueless.
Explain, Lee
By robo
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 3:59pm
I think I’m a reasonable and logical person. Please enlighten me.
Pretty sure Lee has little interest in reason and logic.
By CopleyScott17
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 4:03pm
But for what it's worth, I think you're spot on.
I agree.
By Rob
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 8:58pm
I agree.
Given the choice between "violent overreaction by car driver to imagined offense from dirt bikers" and "violent overreaction by car driver to actual injury/damage/crash (at some previous point up the road) caused by dirt bikers" - it's not any stretch of the imagination (to anybody who has experienced the dirt-biker wilding in the neighborhood) to believe it's the latter.
I’m laughing at your assumption about ..
By Lee
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 4:48pm
… where I live.
No time or inclination for a dead end argument with you today. And your stale bait.
Too nice out.
These dirt bikers have been
By Don't Panic
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 1:54am
These dirt bikers have been known to dent cars. Not major dents but they definitely have slapped cars they feel are in the way of their illegal activities. They really are a menace @Lee.
Speaking of assumptions
By Waquiot
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 9:28am
Boy, you sure do assume that dirt bikers are the best behaved on Boston streets. They aren't.
I still think there should be
By ENIGMUE
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 9:49am
I still think there should be a place close by they can go to dirt bike like the rest of the state - the bikes aren't going anywhere, save yourself much paperwork and events like this. Get them away from major traffic potentially
Sounds like Lee is volunteering his front yard
By robo
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 10:04am
He apparently lives in the city too so it’s perfect.
The Boston area doesn't have enough room to build housing.
By Section77
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 10:22am
But you wonder why we can't find spaces for dirt-bike tracks, wherever someone may want to use them? I don't think that's realistic.
Lucy's American Tavern
By anon
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 5:44pm
Lucy's American Tavern patrons appeared to have thoroughly enjoyed the show.
Power of television
By Daan
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 6:24pm
A video that is as good as any drama on streaming narrative story telling (i.e., television, movies and video games). Better in the one aspect that this is real. More real than reality tv. With each person who owns a phone a potential videographer, producer, director, etc. where will the uploads of real life take us?
Vietnam was fought inside the US on television. The riots of the late 60s came into the "safe and secure" middle class homes via television. Yet in both situations there were mediators: government mediators who tried to prevent media showing the results of war. Corporate mediators deciding what they believed was acceptable and sufficient as their news products (i.e., evening and late night news). Even newspapers were still mediated by editors and publishers and the advertisers who bought space on the page.
Is this kind of news distribution - like this video - part of a democratization of news?
Taking away from the traditional mediators what is sold or given as news?
The impact on newspapers is obvious. Devastation. But what about television news? And what about the overall impact when anyone can be a news reporter?
Prior to the creation of the New York Times newspapers were by nature partisan. The Time claim was to be non-partisan. A new thing for that moment. Rupert Murdoch, Fox News, IHeartRadio and the other conservative media corps took the profession of news as a commodity back to being overtly partisan.
Can a genuine democratization of news (as product), when delivered through local sites such as Universal Hub (which itself can get the news product from Reddit which gets the product from the average Jane and Joe) help to rebalance the heavy handed partisanship and propagandistic orientation of Fox News, etc.?
Exciting!?!
All news is partisan and always has been
By Bostonperson
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 5:23pm
The New York Times has their own angles and agendas, just as any news source does, including this website. I hope you realize all of your “non partisan†news sources lied and suppressed factual information before the 2020 presidential election.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/hunter-bidens-lap...
My rose colored gaze on the world is crushed
By Daan
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 6:35pm
Nah, not really. Everybody has an agenda. To claim that no entity has an agenda is like claiming that there are people who live absolutely unconditionally. Only saints do that and only after made a saint (I.e., dead).
Your argument attempts to dismiss the idea that journalism shifted from overt political partisanship to what became called objective journalism. The difference? The difference between the Moonie owned Washington Times or Rupert Murdoch’s solidly partisan (to the point of overt lies) Fox News versus legitimate journalism that tries to straddle the line between making a profit and reporting the affairs of the day.
As for the Biden laptop: so much of that story smells of 2 week old fish left to sit out in 90 degree heat.
A laptop with an external hard drive left at a repair shop and forgotten? That involves cracking passwords and someone or many spending a lot of time sorting through huge volumes of data.
There is much to the story that fails the smell test.
Password crackhead
By Bostonperson
Tue, 04/05/2022 - 12:25am
https://nypost.com/2020/11/01/hunter-biden-was-bad...
https://reason.com/2022/03/17/the-new-york-times-b...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8901193/a...
A tip from the editor
By adamg
Sun, 04/03/2022 - 10:17pm
If you predict I'm going to delete something you posted, there's a good chance you're right.
Proofreader here
By Ron Newman
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 10:00am
"threw", not "through"
the the brawl may have
By Scratchie
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 12:25pm
The article seems to be describing the scene in the video, when the bike riders threw rocks at the car after it had already crashed. There's nothing to indicate that rocks were being thrown prior to the crash.
The opening sentence is ambiguous, but there's nothing in the body of the article to indicate that rocks were thrown prior to the events on video:
Nothing can justify throwing
By Notfromboston
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 12:38pm
Nothing can justify throwing rocks at a car. Nothing.
Nothing?
By brianjdamico
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 2:52pm
Nothing ever? Under absolutely no circumstances? What about in self-defense?
Really?
By Kaz
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 3:10pm
There you are...with a rock in hand...and a menacing driver begins charging you with their car...so you hurl your rock at the car with the hopes of what? When are you ever going to defend yourself with a rock versus a car and expect anything meaningful to come from it?
And that wasn't even this situation where the driver had already done their damage, the car was stopped, and instead of staying clear, they chose to attempt to break the car open with large rocks in an attempt to get to the driver (and passengers).
This entire video is just a litany of everyone doing the wrong thing on top of wrong things.
Whoa there
By brianjdamico
Mon, 04/04/2022 - 3:26pm
I wasn't commenting on the situation at hand. Realistically, do you think the user was replying to was doing so either?
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