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I think all sides would love to see this.
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At the end of the call, Mr. Obama said, there was a discussion about the sergeant, Professor Gates and him having a beer at the White House.
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I think all sides would love to see this.
It would be a beautiful thing if all three men could come together for a cool-headed chat (which both the officer and the professor didn't do in the unfortunate moment that afternoon), agree to forgive each other (c'mon, none of these guys are bad people and if they don't realize it now, they'll definitely realize it over a cold one), and agree to be more reasonable in the future when faced with a tense situation.
What a great lesson it could teach us all.
Sure, as long as it's not in Shreveport
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/24/wright.poli...
Get Jeffrey Wright a beer too.
Jeffrey Wright is getting pissed off at Rudy Guiliani about an incident in Louisiana that involved the actor who played George W. in an Oliver Stone movie.
C'mon, read what Obama had to say today, after he reflected on the situation.
Let's learn something real here: There's lots of ugly shit that goes on in America and in the world. We can respond by calling people nasty things and taking sides on ambiguous situations, or we can sit down like polite, civilized, intelligent, respectful human beings and live in a more harmonious world.
I read the whole article by
I read the whole article by Jeffrey Wright and it's pretty informative. Imagine what happened to him happening to you. You'd be seriously pissed.
Wright is 47 and he went to college in Amherst MA
And you believe him?
Just because he says it happened that way doesn't mean it did. Sounds to me like he was drunk (facts tend to get fuzzy when you're drunk) and rude and then got even worse and then finally, got what he deserved.
How could he be drunk??
The whole point was that when she brought him his first drink he made a comment about finally being served (since they wouldn't let him in the night before) and she thought he was being an ass (or getting "uppity") and wanted him out of the bar.
No matter what went on, there's nothing in his story to suggest that he needed to be pepper-sprayed and tasered at all.
There is a video
and its a wierd one. From the repot it looks like Brolin and Wright were told to unlock from an embrace that they had on the sidewalk when they were told to clear the area after a disturbance. When Brolin and Wright refused to move and unlock, they were both sprayed. Then officers went in, unlocked them and handcuffed both. Brolin was handcuffed without incident but Wright resisted and would not put one of his hands behind his back. It doesnt look like he was intentionally resisting, but the effects of the pepper spray had him pretty disoriented. After a good 30 seconds, wright was tazed and was then handcuffed.
Its on TMZ
http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/06/caught-on-tape-cops-...
The White House isn't in Shreveport
Duh. Try ripping off something which is at least halfway relevant to the discussion.
How about....
they meet live on TV and only after consuming a lot of beer? And no 7 second delay.
What percentage of Cambridge officers live in Cambridge?...
a) What percentage of Cambridge officers live in Cambridge?...
b) What percentage of Cambridge officers live in the white suburbs?...
see also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_policing
the zak
Are those rhetorical questions?
If not, how would one go about answering these questions, assuming that one had use of CPL and BPL libraries (and that librarians there did not have orders to shoot on sight) and that one could quickly find on the Web both phone numbers and Web email forms for two promising-sounding CPD offices?
I asked a similar question several days ago....
... but got no answer. So I suppose that no one who knows has been reading any of these threads. ;~}
Do you..
consider Cambridge a white suburb?
I interpreted the second question as contrastive
I believe that Cambridge is approx. 50% non-Hispanic white.
There is a relatively small number of children. I don't have numbers handy for the ethnic/racial breakdown of children, but I can tell you that I do a lot of walking in much of Cambridge, and that it is unusual for me to see non-Hispanic white children.
Not exactly your "white suburb."
I understand that the zak has lived in Cambridge, in Central/Kendall/AreaIV, and probably would have a sense of this.
more than 50% white...
according to the most recent census (2000), cambridge is 68% white, which is still well below the average for massachusetts, which was over 84% white in the same year.
cambridge is a very segregated city, though. it has areas that are predominantly white (harvard square, for example), and areas that are clusters of minorities (the jefferson park housing projects on rindge ave, for example).
i think it's unfair to claim the whole city as a "white suburb", because to do so is to ignore vast areas of cambridge.
I said approx. because the
I said approx. because the census is almost a decade out of date, so I was extrapolating from a very clear trend from several previous censuses. I should've stated that's what I was doing, and that it was probably a bit over half.
I agree: I wouldn't call Cambridge a "white suburb." There are a couple pockets that look and act like a suburb, but the extensive subsidized housing is placed throughout much of the city. Grad students and young professionals in Cambridge live where they can, not where they want to, often living in poorer-quality housing than the poor do. Anecdotally, it seems to me that most middle-class people leave the city within a few years -- often in search of actual "white suburbs" for raising kids, or at least to get better housing for their dollar.
And?
What's the point of this question exactly? I have seen this posed a couple of times now.
The answer is not very many Cambridge cops live within the city. Many of them did grow up there, but what working class person that didn't inherit their home can afford to live in Cambridge?