Pro/con: Boylston Street bike lanes
First up, we have the Globe's Brian McGrory, who argues Boylston Street bike lanes are a major mistake, that even pedestrians love the sheer exuberance of a traffic-clogged thoroughfare full of life and the essence of Boston, and man, who doesn't love just driving down the boulevard looking up at all the tall buildings and it's where the Marathon bombings were and besides, there are bike lanes on parallel streets, leave Boylston Street alone!
Gone is the broad-shouldered appeal of a proud urban thoroughfare, replaced by something decidedly hunched.
In response, Commonwealth Beacon's James Aloisi says the only congestion he's seeing on McGrory's supposedly ravaged, post-apocalyptic street is all the scooter deliverers clogging up the sidewalk in front of Chick-fil-A - and they were there long before those City Hall bureaucrats ordered new lanes striped down the street.
I call on the naysayers to stop complaining and to rise to the occasion by supporting and improving the introduction of new things. We used to call Boston the "livable city." That’s only going to be true in this century if we accept and respond to the changes in how people are moving about, including the rise of cycling as a preferred mode of travel.
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Livable city?
I always thought Boston was "the walkable city," but that would work just as well in Aloisi's argument.
BRIAN MCGRORY
I am quite sure his aunt Mary would not agree.
Broad shoulders?
What is this, Chicago?
Saying that McGrory argues is surmising that he has an argument beyond "I'm an old white guy and you hurted my feelings waaah." Someone at the Globe really needs to take away the keys, although since Jacoby is still around, there's precedent. (At least McGrory's kid hasn't run away yet.)
McGrory is really full of it. The most regal commercial street in the city? That would be one block over on Newbury (which really should be pedestrianized).
Okay, Brian. First, they didn't change the sidewalks, so really, this is about the lanes. Second, the lanes aren't any wider than they were (11) although they probably could be narrower. And what, can people riding bikes not think? Is thinking only allowed for those walking or driving (but really only driving; walking hasn't changed). Are we only allowed to dream big dreams on Boylston Street.
Downtown is a traffic jam, and McGrory has tried nothing and is all out of ideas.
You know, Brian, if you ride a bike, it's the opposite.
Because of the, uh, bicycles, all honking their horns and causing traffic jams?
Jaywalking? In Boston? Good heavens! (But if there are short signal cycles, lengthen them. Which has nothing to do with bike lanes.)
We are all dumber for having read McGrory's screed.
You are biased Ari
You would make out with a bike lane if you it would let you.
You got me
Some of them are damn sexy.
(I'd make out with the ones on the Harvard Bridge but that would be a little too close to home, but, damnnnn.)
Smoots are made for smoochin'
Don't be ashamed :-)
No substance, only middle school insults
n/t
Here's a middle school insult
Costello's Twitter pic reminds me of a bullfrog trying to attract a mate.
or maybe a pelican with a bill full of trout.
It's interesting
That McGrory's bias wasn't mentioned considering that he's written against bikes and bike lanes for quite some time.
Thats Johnathan's own bias showing
But of course, I'm being biased in pointing out his bias that he pointed out about Ari but due to his own bias, Johnathan failed to mention McGrory's bias.
The theme I'm seeing is, everyone has bias if you really break it down but Jonathan only acknowledges Ari's bias. What a wonderfully ignorant way to dismiss someones statement.
Such an ironclad retort.
Incredible.
Don't know what white has to
Don't know what white has to do with it, but otherwise, this is spot-on.
Of course bicycles aren't
Of course bicycles aren't honking. The honking is done by drivers reacting to the traffic conditions caused by a reconfigured roadway.
It's possible to have bicycles without this road configuration. Maybe even preferable for bicycling.
As far as the traffic light timing dis-favoring pedestrians, it could be because of the need for separate phases for the bike lanes. Or it could be pure wasteful stupidity, given that this is BTD we're talking about.
Nah, traffic existed on Boylston long before the bike lanes
Next!
Come on, Ari
You are a much better person than bringing up the Jacoby thing.
As for the substance of anything, I'd say that the Square proper benefits from no one caring about the bus lane. I still need to look more at the Fairfield to Exeter block to see if this is a nothing burger or armageddon. I walk, so I have no skin in this fight.
We are all dumber for having
and that's why I didn't and won't read it.
Hunched Brian
I'm liking the way the new hunched Brian sprinkles these qualifiers in his latest bike-hate column:
He is clearly making some kind of incremental progress from his old bike-hate columns:
Keep plugging away Brian! We are rooting for you to eventually catch up to the 21st century!
The Big Squeeze
Lets add bike lanes, bus lanes, and maybe some dedicated high speed lanes for food delivery riders. 90 year old granny with her 3 speed Raleigh can use the low speed lane when she pedals down to get her groceries in January.
let's go all out
let's go all out and bring back streetcars on Boylston street for local service.
It was over 20 years ago that I started to believe
that Brian McGrory was an idiot.
I realized today that he is
I realized today that he is an idiot. I knew it for years as well, but I realized it today again.
As long as they enforce the
As long as they enforce the actual traffic laws on this street with the same force and zeal as they did with made up city ordinances on public alleys off it.
we just can't do that without
we just can't do that without cameras. We would need an officer on each intersection to monitor.
I bet two officers on one
I bet two officers on one intersection actually doing traffic enforcement will make a huge difference
Nope
It doesn't. But if you lived here or left mom's basement once in a while you'd know this...
There are often two cops at the foot of the N Washington St Bridge @ Causeway St directing traffic because of the bridge construction during rush hour.
Without them, traffic backs up but is moving. With them, its 10x worse than it needs to be. Takes far longer to get thru that intersection when they are there vs when they are not there.
And you want police to do traffic enforcement? HAHA
That means they might have to get out of their cars, put down their Dunkin Donuts cup and do some work. Considering the number of double parked cars and people driving in bus lanes, should show you how much 'enforcement' they are doing these days. Even BTD, which is suppose to ticket bus lane driver violators, seem to do nothing.
This is why it annoys me to death that every time automatic enforcement with cameras is brought up at the state house its quickly quelled and dismissed. If the cops or BTD have no interest in actually doing enforcement, then we need something else. In recent years car drivers just have gotten ballsy and there's been too many fatalities involving people being hit by cars. We gotta do something...
Hahaha
The last time I saw "two officers on one intersection" doing that, they had themselves a fine duck pond set up at the intersection of Hereford and Newbury early on a Sunday morning with next to no traffic, and were writing up any driver who did not come to an absolute full stop and hold it for three seconds at the stop sign.* Now that's effective "traffic enforcement". Certainly took care of a lot of dangerous drivers that morning, you bet.
*but they let off a priest in clericals with a joke and a laugh. Everyone else got a ticket.
Boston Post?
The Globe seems to be trying to be Boston's version of the NY Post.
Just a few days ago they made a transphobic headline pulled right from the 4chan and Fox News, and now they have another "Why do we need bike lanes? Regular folks hate bicyclists, they drive pickup trucks and SUVs down Bolyston like patriotic Americans should."
Next up will be an article about a secret pedophile ring in the basement of a Dunkin Donuts in liberal Cambridge.
It’s the latter. A quid, pro
It’s the latter. A quid, pro quo with progressives and effort to de-Bostonize Boston. (Sure that may be responsive government, but is it responsible governing?) There is something afoot and the Boston Street Tsar was at the scene. I think McGrory is spot on as the Brits and hipsters say. (As is Flynn) I use bike lanes. There’s a lot of great biking in the Boston area. They save lives, but Boylston is a bit much, as is the Hammond Pond Parkway project. Four lanes to two lanes with un mountable curbs. How can emergency vehicles get through? No place to pull over in a breakdown and what about as a diversion or evacuation route? (When do they start work on the bridge?) Will people bike the HPP, or just couriers on gas and electric mopeds use it as a delivery route? On the happier side, I am over the moon for Gov. Walz!!! What a speech-giver. I’m a curmudgeon on the process, but I like the ticket! Plus, people had beed using the HPP recreationally as there were always multiple cars pulled on the grassy shoulders on both sides to hike and walk their dogs. Now, there’s only a limited cut out for a few cars far away from where most people pull over to recreate/ utilize the beautiful parkway. Plus, I just heard a promo on WGBH on yesterday’s morning commute where the Mayor was asked about curbing reckless scooters and she said the buck stopped with the companies to make our streets safer. What the what? I mean, yeah the companies suck big time and owe a safe working environment to their workforce and not to menace the people at large, but that’s not the sound bite you want circulating through the aether.
Boston does not have room for
Boston does not have room for so many cars.
Wut?
Anything the city of Boston does is intrinsically Boston. There is no removing the Boston from Boston.
Cities change and evolve over time, even Boston. If you want to see a city unchanged and fixed at a moment in time, go to Old Sturbridge Village.
I guess. I’m really having a
I guess. I’m really having a hard time with change. There are generational themes throughout history, but we are in uncharted territory. I hope it all works out.
Translation?
What does this mean?
Change is the one constant.
"How can emergency vehicles get through?"
Here is a clip of an ambulance passing traffic near the Public Garden. (Pay no attention to the user that posted it as a dunk on bike lanes, they actually proved their own point wrong.)
https://twitter.com/DynastyDriven/status/1814300699687076311
l'd say more of these sized bike lanes could help emergency vehicles that are blocked by motorists. I know these aren't the same style built on Boylston, as it has bumpouts. But Boylston does have a bus lane, perfect for emergency vehicles to quickly pass provided motorists aren't blocking it.
Remember, if that bike lane at the Public Garden was a travel/parking lane, it would be filled with cars and the ambulance would be in a worse situation than it would with the bike lane.
If the concern about emergency vehicles is genuine, you should be all about this.
Concern Trolls
The concern is never genuine.
Partly concerned about
Partly concerned about emergency vehicles getting through, that’s the high consequence risk and outcome, but I really want to be able to pass slowpokes. If they can get through then great. I guess the future is for the young.
"Slowpokes"
My, that's a quaint term. It's almost as if you think people are lingering along Boylston Street just enjoying the scenery, like someone taking a Sunday drive in the country, instead of having things actually preventing them from going any faster.
I really want to be able to
Aha, the real concern surfaces. Am I to understand that you're concerned that you might have to spend an extra few minutes driving eight blocks? Unless you're able to speed on a dense city street?
Sure that may be responsive
Could you interpret this for me? Are you arguing that the government is being too responsive to its constituents' concerns?
Responsive to the politically
Responsive to the politically potent and loud voices but irresponsible by not being the adults in the room and balancing all our needs: the miserly old, spendthrift young, bike riders and car drivers.
The pandemic obscured any negative commercial impact from bike lanes. The data seems to show they have no impact, but we don’t know if the marginal discouragement of older drivers and people with car-dependent families were off set by young folks on bikes unencumbered financially by …whatever.
So basically, the city did
So basically, the city did what its voters wanted, and you're upset because you think there may be problems for which zero evidence has been provided. Got it.
I know. I know. My irrational
I know. I know. My irrational fear is that politicians are serving the “most potent voters” instead of making grown up, stewardship decisions. Not that they’re not. I’m trying to be agnostic and I read the contention around the issue has both valid and invalid components and a balance of considerations.
Careful
You might get some splinters sitting on that fence.
here's how I know this whole thing is in bad faith
anyone who says this is full of it.
Wait. Didn’t a Boston city
Wait. Didn’t a Boston city Councilman raise that issue? Was he being specious?
yes
Maybe he should be concerned about the murders and injuries given to constitutes by cars.
Why?
?
Purple prose should still be correct
Was Boylston Street ever boulevard, grand or not? OED definition: A broad Street, promenade, or walk, planted with rows of trees.
I always thought that Comm Ave along Back Bay is Boston's grand boulevard? Menino didn't get the language correct and McGrory compounds the error. Referencing the Champs-Élysées should put the attention directly to Comm Ave and not just because bike lanes are not blocked off. Comm Avenue is a boulevard. But purply prose - which seems to be part of the reason for the opinion, should at least use accurate words.
McGrory sounds like a fellow who thinks he is smart but really isn't. One of the subtler aspects of reducing car lanes on major roads is that it can have the opposite effect of induced traffic. Create conditions that persuade folks to not drive down the street. Result: Less cars!
Now would that mean that Boylston Street businesses get less traffic? For those depending in vehicular traffic bringing in customers perhaps. On the other hand if through traffic diminishes then that might free up the street.
And if the bike lanes ultimately do not work well on Boyslton then that can be changed. But for the love of all that is asphalt, concrete and playing Frogger across several lanes, at least someone is trying something.
His article is full of horrible points
You nailed it on the head, Comm. Ave is the grand boulevard of Boston. Boylston was just a lousy impersonation of a Manhattan boulevard, which themselves are lousy.
Even further, he makes the argument that we don't need bike lanes on Boylston because we already have bike lanes on Comm. Ave. going the same direction.
No way he's entertaining that logic if its say, applied to removing Storrow Drive because the Pike exists.