Around noon, in front of the housing project. The victim was taken to a local hospital, John Duffill reports.
Mike Flynn photographed the car.
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Around noon, in front of the housing project. The victim was taken to a local hospital, John Duffill reports.
Mike Flynn photographed the car.
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Lucky occupant
By Mike
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 3:45pm
So far. Hope said person recovers. There were more green cones than you could shake a stick at and right next to the car at that. Appalling aim or perhaps no real intent to kill.
green cones mark blood or shell casings
By anon
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 9:37pm
so the cones would be where shots were fired from.
Cones = shell casings
By Mike
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:42am
In this case. I drove past shortly after. Initially assumed it was return fire until I read there wasn't any.
I'm not terribly concerned with personal injury during such violence unless, as is often the case, their aim is so poor..
Probably a mix of both.
By Madridista
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:46pm
Probably a mix of both.
In front of James' Gate
By Gary C
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 4:18pm
I've sat in that courtyard many a summer night. Always felt safe too.
"the housing project" -- not the one you might expect
By Ron Newman
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 4:24pm
From the linked tweets, this happened in front of the quiet and well-kept South Street project, not Bromley-Heath where this kind of thing might be more expected.
quiet except for the shootings
By anon
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 9:31pm
There's been a number of drive-by shootings between Forest Hills and that housing complex. The last one was maybe ~4-5 months ago.
Ron - cops have been pulling
By anon
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 1:46pm
Ron - cops have been pulling guns from that project for years. Shootings are rare, but guns are there.
Someone is shot at 11 times
By anon
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 6:16pm
Someone is shot at 11 times and people are commenting on the type of car? Do you read the text, or just look at the pictures?
Because maybe VALUES... and not Christian of Family type
By Chuck
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:16pm
I'm a hoodie. Low rent background, not a boatload of cash, still swillin' it in Dot and I don't mind when folks call us out on our effed up values. Too many of us care more about material things in an effort to show the world how bad ass we are. I'm just as flashy trashy as the next dude. I throw coins around like I'm it and often have to stop myself and question why and who do I think I am. I know the answer but it's hard to break free of this materialistic society that tells us that all that matters is we flash the cash and work the platinum Visa. People can be dropping dead on the streets and we don't care as long as we're sportin' bootleg Gucci. And that's the truth.
Values
By anon
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 8:37am
I live in low income housing. I grew up in a project. But I don't consider myself poor. The income requirements for a single person to qualify for housing are actually kind of high, but since housing is so expensive, it's considered low income to live in Boston.
Not everyone who lives in a project is struggling to get by. I wasn't forced to move here. I chose it because I knew I could make ends meet here. And the values my parents taught me were pay your bills and save what you can.
Growing up I never had the new clothes and gadgets that my friends had. From that I learned that I didn't need stuff. They were no better off for wearing $100 jeans to school. I learned from my parents that if you want something, you save up for it. We never starved, we always had what we needed, and eventually they saved enough to buy a house.
I'm the same way today. I don't struggle to pay my bills. Living in a project means I have the money to pay my bills, stay well-fed, and afford the insurance and maintenance on my 12 year old car.
I'm not denying that there are people out there seriously struggling to get by. But I think there are major misconceptions about what it's like to live in a project, and what the people who live there are like. Everyone is different, we have varied values, motivations, and goals, just like any other group of people.
To judge someone by the neighborhood they live in, and the car parked in front of their building, requires the same maturity level that a middle schooler could muster. There's too much that you don't know to come to any true conclusions, so why bother? (Note, I'm not refering to Chuck here.)
Oh, and my stepsister and stepbrother are both quite well off. They each have better-paying jobs than I do. I suppose their vehicles look strange when parked in my neighborhood, but it never really struck me as odd.
Welcome to the UHub comments
By Madridista
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:44pm
Welcome to the UHub comments section. They've been steadily going downhill for a few years now.
Gang related, police say
By adamg
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 7:36am
Jamaica Plain News talks to BPD.
Why I moved to the City
By RealAmerican Fl...
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:25am
Not only did I find a nice house cheap and not have to be near all those Asians, Blacks, and poor people, but now I can spout ridiculous racist nonsense with authority because I share a city with them!
I've seen those people do that and I share my zip code with them, so don't question my standard racist memes!
Disappointed in the reporting, Adam
By Stomps
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:08am
This happened in front of JAMES'S GATE, a frequented restaurant / pub of JP white folk ... not a "housing project". The projects start a few houses up, diagonally and across the street from the shot-up Mercedes.
Blindly linking a shooting to housing projects is wack and perpetuating stereotypes. It does nothing but supply ammo for these dumb bigoted commenters on here.
Later last night, I was walking through the Blanchard's parking lot, just up the street from the crime scene, and I see the exact same model white Mercedes pulling in from Centre Street, right in front of me. Who's driving? A prissy-looking older white woman in her mink overcoat, clearly going to pick up her daily prescription of chardonnay.
I'm not denying that the shooting was most likely gang-related. Its just the subconscious link you draw for the unbeknownst casual racists / classists. This world's majority is one of a simple mind, with an inability to see the harm in perpetuating the subjective, socially-constructed link between violence and race.
Actually
By anon
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 3:27pm
It was right across the street from the projects. The entrance to the main courtyard is right across the street (ok, maybe 45 degrees across the intersection), and the projects themselves run towards Forest Hills all the way down to St. Rose, there's just a row of houses facing South Street after the parking lot. If you really wanna further nitpick, Jame's Gate lists it's address on McBride, both entrances face McBride, so if anything, it was next to Jame's Gate.
Wrong.
By Eye
Mon, 08/10/2020 - 7:27pm
It was not next to James Gate. Stop it, you weren’t there. I live in the housing project and I saw the aftermath outside my bathroom window facing St. Rose St which is located across south st if your standing in front of Jeanie Johnston. St. Rose is a hill- if you go up, there is a dead end street on your left. That’s where it took place. It was not gang related cause south st ain’t ever had no gang activity ( I have lived here for 24 years.)
If you're standing in the James's Gate courtyard ...
By Ron Newman
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 4:21pm
... the "Boston Housing Authority South Street Apartments" sign is right across the street, at the other end of the crosswalk.
Street View
(No, I don't know which side of South Street this happened on, but does it really matter?)
Oh please.
By Sally
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:20pm
You must be a pretty skilled reporter to have observed all that about a random old lady in a car, including her alleged propensity for chardonnay (if she'd been a black lady would you have substituted a different grape?) You realize that you're making as many foolish and, I suspect, wholly fictional assumptions about her as the assumptions you're making about project-dwellers?
Smmfh
By Michael G
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:09pm
My family stays in this housing community. I see a lot of ppl bashing the lower income neighborhood and I find it rather insulting. Most of you ppl don't even live in the city of Boston to even have an opinion of how, what, and why things are the way they are...Your opinions come off as biased and sterotypical. To question a WHOLE community of their morals or priorities based off a act of a few, shouldn't you be questioning your own? It just shocks me to see that the irresponsibility of adults and their words.
Well
By Waquiot
Sun, 12/28/2014 - 12:00am
A guy was shot there, and according to the cops it wasn't random.
The South Street don't have that bad of a rep from outsiders. It's not Bromley Heath or Annunciation Road. As far as the other crap (that I engaged in), don't sweat that. We could debate whether there is some truth to what some say, but I think we all agree that people are overall honest.
Who wants to die?
By Daan
Sun, 12/28/2014 - 2:16pm
I think that where the shooting happened is more important to the police - if the location provides any information about shooters. What is important to me is that I want to live in this neighborhood without fearing that a gang member is going to start shooting at a target and, whoops, hits someone else.
This happened at Same Old Place a couple of years ago. A woman walking down the street is shot is the leg as two gang members battle each other.
For any early 20th C historians out there: Are we facing a similar situation to that of the Al Capone's era or of that of the Mafia? The romanticized version is that at least they killed only other bad guys. But I have to wonder how many noncombatants were killed as well.
Gangs are a cancer in the body politic. There are reasons why people join gangs. Socially, in a perverse way they provide a sense of community, membership in something larger, even a (poor) replacement for family (especially if the person's family is messed up). But economically they also provide a means of identifying with power (whether through the inherent violence or the monetary profit of illegal activities). If we won't or can't spend the resources on removing the reasons that people join gangs then can we spend the resources on removing the economic component that allows gangs to thrive: the drug and prostitution trades for example? It's a certainty that guns will not be removed (the Supreme Court all but made the possession of guns a sacred right) but perhaps removing the economic incentives for gang membership will decrease attractive ness of gang membership. No money = no power. No power = a social group that walks around looking tough but doesn't result in innocent children and adults being shot on the street.
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