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Republicans mock freedom and American history

You may recall the failed effort in the state Senate to repeal Evacuation Day and Bunker Hill Day. Forget the hack issue. Over in Charlestown, where they have some hallowed Revolutionary ground, some people are annoyed at this affront to the memory of those who payed the ultimate price for our nation's freedom:

... With Bunker Hill Day approaching, isn't it amazing that one would use our country's history, our state's history, OUR neighborhood's history to make a speech and mock us (several republicans did so and several members of the Senate voted to rescind these recognitions of our special history). A big thanks to Senator Jack Hart, who was the only one to rise and defend our traditions (Galluccio did not chooose to defend Bunker Hill Day by speaking on the floor of the Senate) so thanks Jack Hart from all the friends of Bunker Hill Day and for taking on the Republicans.

Of course, Hart represents South Boston, which played a key role in forcing the British out on Evacuation Day.

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May Hart's comments be forever remembered as the first shot heard round the whites of their eyes in the defense of ye olde paid-day-off for state and municipal workers!

The Commonwealth MUST take up the new proposal to dedicate the first Monday, on or after May 19, as Defense of Bunker Hill Day and Evacuation Day, Day, a paid-day-off for state and municipal workers, in memory of the day that Bunker Hill Day and Evacation Day were saved, nay, retrieved from the claws of the Commies, as paid days off for state and municipal workers.

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The most pathetic part of this whole debate is that very few understand the significance of Evacuation Day and Bunker Hill Day. Some view Senator Chang - Diaz as heroic for her vote to get rid of these holidays. She was naive under pressure. Unlike their Senator, her constituents in Roxbury are proud of the fact that Evacuation Day ceremonies (remembering the trek of Revolutionary soldiers who dragged cannons from Fort Tycondaroga to begin the end of British rule in what became the greatest nation on Earth) take place at Heritage Park in Roxbury. She's never been to one ceremony. That's New Boston for ya.

Since we're looking to save money, Patriot's Day (commemorating the battle at Lexington and Concord) has got to go. The whole state of Massachusetts has off, not just Suffolk County. Only MA by the way. Who cares about it's significance. I bet it costs the state a lot more than $5 million. But I'm sure the automobile lobby will have a fit and the GOP will fold on that.

Nothing like a bunch of clowns trying to get press, destroying the social fabric of our society. Just another day at the office for guys like Knapik. Yeah, he's looking out for you. He should look out for himself and shave that creepy gotee.

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to recognize these events, than the current, which is just a paid free day for government workers, and a mandatory work day for normal people.

The one to start with is actually "Evacuation Day" - nothing more than a proxy for St Patrick's day...

Whose big idea was it that adding "days off work" is somehow respectful? and should we keep adding new paid days off to the calendar? When are there enough paid days off in remembrance of things that happened in the past?

Anonymous Civics 101 - if this is really so important to you, how about putting together a public curriculum and thinking of some new ways to distribute it on and around these dates, rather than whining about the loss of a paid vacation day for some when the rest of us suckers are just going to work as usual?

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Is Zbert not anonymous? Oh wait, you're an entrepeneur, that clears it up. My mistake.

Back to the debate at hand. So if you think the two "hack holidays" cost the state too much and that you don't need a day off to commemortae these important days in history, fair enough. In the economy, there's merit to such an argument. Then you must agree that we should get rid of an even more expensive state holiday that falls under the same theme. Patriots' Day is a state-wide holiday commemorating the battle of Lexington and Concord. (If you don't know what that is either then we should drop this conversation.) My question to you is if you believe we should ax Bunker Hill and Evacuation Day to save money, what are your thoughts on Patriots' Day? If you're principled, you will say we need to ax that as well. If not, then your true "red coat" colors will be ever so obvious.

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.... then as a jewish state worked i offer to give up christmas. costs the state a fortune and doesn't mean anything special to me ;)

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not a-nonymous. there's a big difference.

If you need to know who I am, I will tell you. But what you really need to know is that I am the same person who posted other things over time, and so you can be fairly sure that you are dealing with one person, and somewhere in those postings, if I had some biases or, you know, personal interest in things, that would be clear.

You, on the other hand, could be any of the regular posters, or someone with a personal interest in this matter, or just an agitator. You've nothing in the game and next time you come around as a-nonymous, we won't even know it's you. The distinction between "pseudonymous" and "anonymous" is nontrival.

Further, the American patriots you want to celebrate often wrote pseudonymously. Poor Richard, Common Sense, Algernon Sidney and Clarendan come to mind readily. By invoking their names (look them up if you can't convert to their real names) I do not mean to place myself on the pedestal with them, only to say that this is nothing new, and to point out the plain irony of the dueling complaints that you apparently placed together, deliberately, in the space of your latest exposition.

Think it over. I'd say more, but this is not on topic.

Now, despite your invoking the ol' ad hominem, I'll read the rest of your note and perhaps respond to it.

OK I've read it.

I didn't grow up in MA and though I've lived in the Commonwealth (I know to say that, at least) for quite a number of years and have paid my share of taxes here and suffered my share of the indignities that go along with living here ("paid dues" in some sense, some would say)... I really don't know what to say and wonder if you would say I'm not entitled to an opinion anyway, as a non-native-born. I think that came up in another thread not too distant from this one. Or maybe it's even here. I didn't look.

However, I cannot help but think that the idea that taking a day off work to stay home, watch game shows, paint, drink, or otherwise party, somehow "honors" the long-dead, seems nonsensical to me. If kids were IN school that day, they could attend (and probably stage) an education-related activity, letting them connect to that history, rather than spending it at home with parents who probably don't know much about it because they were home with THEIR parents on the day, last generation.

Personally, I don't much care for celebrations of wars, even when we've won them. I do like the idea of celebrating our freedom, and I'm the last person to dance on the graves of my forebears, except to celebrate something good they left for me (and yes, in two very distinct and deserving cases, to take a whiz, but that's unrelated to the Founders).

So no, I can't really get behind the idea of shutting down this state when no other does, and when only a few people really don't go to work that day, of hobbling public transit on those days ("holiday schedule"), of spending untold hours explaining what's open and closed, confounding schedules, sentencing parents who DO have to go to work to find someone to care for school-age kids...

and frankly this is not related to "the economy." Were we all good Yankees, we would humbly note that good times are the only time to put up resources for bad times, because there are always eventually bad times. Eat all the fruit in summer and you're going to have none in January. That's about where Massachusetts is now... and there's nothing noble, noteworthy, or particularly respectful of American patriots in that kind of indulgence.

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If it's such an important holiday, then he should be pushing for these days to be paid holidays in the private sector.

The only thing he's protecting here are hack privileges, It has nothing to do with history and even less to do with party affiliation. Get real, please.

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It's kind of hard to forget the hack issue when the hack issue is the issue. Unless all the municipal workers go to Charlestown every year to honor the Revolutionary War dead, the state "holiday" really doesn't matter to Charlestown.

By the way, Adam, you link is to an anonymous post by a single person - not exactly "some people." And where's the evidence that anything worthwhile was "mocked"? I have no doubt that Republicans mocked government workers getting a paid holiday when the rest of the world has to work, but I seriously doubt they mocked the soldiers buried in Charlestown. Seeing that it's a partisan attack, don't you suppose the post might come from inside the hackarama itself? There's a shocking idea. Now that you've brought up the subject, this just makes the Republicans look good, and the Democrats look like the party of embedded insider corruption.

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It's kind of hard to forget the hack issue when the hack issue is the issue.

Exactly, and it's not limited to Suffolk hacks, either. Non-Suffolk hacks get floating holidays to use whenever they want, which I'm sure they all spend in quiet reflection over the sacrifices made by our Revolutionary soldiers. If they were real holidays they'd close the packies.

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How would I pour one out for my dead homies?

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pocoloco91 is an active poster in Charlestown on line.

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I quote them and then they quote me quoting them and then you quote them quoting me quoting them ...

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Hi Adam: I saw this yesterday on the Herald website. I came home last nite and my landlord was fit to be tied. All sign point to Flaherty having ripped down Menino signs along the parade route during the late nite Saturday. Needless to say Flaherty recieved a very bad reception along the parade route from folks who were pissed off about his folks climbing balconies and porches to rip down the signs (not to mention his call to eliminate Bunker Hill Day). What a disgrace. I think the folks in C-Town deserve better.

"Took the kids into the Bunker Hill/Hack Day Parade in Charlestown today. Couldnt believe how many Menino signs I saw ripped or strewn on the ground along the route. A Yoon supporter (at least had a sticker) over heard me talking to a cop about it and said, "That wasnt us who did that". When I asked him who it was he said "Southie" and walked off. If that is the way the campaigning is going I would think more thought should be given to Yoon. It has made me think again."

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..."All sign[s] point to Flaherty"? And what is the basis for the claims "Flaherty recieved a very bad reception along the parade route" and "[Flaherty's] folks climbing balconies and porches to rip down the signs"? And why are you posting anonymously?

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Can I quote you on that?

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