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Avoid Post Office Square at rush hour
By adamg on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 8:41am
Vice President Pence will be in town for a private Republican fundraiser (no, Charlie Baker won't be there) at the Langham that starts right about, oh, the time the afternoon rush hour begins.
Oliver Street will be closed at 3 p.m.; parking is already banned in the square.
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Gee......
Warm up the Grindr, fellas!
Good idea, Charlie
I assume Governor Profilesincourage will be hiding under some coats and hoping nobody makes the connection that two elected officials are from the same political party
How do we know Teflon Charlie won't be there?
Adam? Thanks
"Scheduling Conflict"
I believe that the Governor's Office conspicuously let it be known that the Governor would be in New Bedford (sorry, scheduling conflict!!!), far, far away from the Vice President in Boston.
They also let it be known that the Lt. Gov. would not be there either, but I didn't hear the reason.
Same party?
Since Ray Shamie passed on there have been few similarities between the Massachusetts GOP and the national party.
Will Americans ever realize
Will Americans ever realize that politicians, while representing different political parties, all serve the same masters?
Voting records on many issues
Voting records on many issues would beg to disagree (net neutrality and climate issues, to name a couple).
Not really
Voting recording only indicate which constituency they believe they can fleece the most to line their pockets; career politicians don't vote for what they believe in.
A politician from Kansas? Lots of people there who love bibles and guns, that's what I'm voting for so that I can stay in office and line my pockets.
A politician from Wellesley? Lots of people there who hate bibles and guns, that's what I'm voting for so that I can stay in office and line my pockets.
Which is a smart thing
Being a conservative Democrat, I'd love to see my party do in other parts of the nation what the Mass GOP has done in terms of aligning with the sensibilities of the voters from state to state. Of course, the Mass GOP has basically been a gubernatorial party forgoing competing in the General Court, but the concept is there. Two functioning political parties keeps politics fairly clean, since if one party messes up the other party will gain.
That's good and bad
It's "good" in the sense that it wins you elections and is responsive to the will of the people.
It's "bad" in the sense that you cede ground in some dimension of national unity and in the sense that you chose to follow more than you choose to lead. For better or worse, we do expect a little bit of leadership of our elected officials, and I don't just mean managerial competence, but consensus-building. You don't have to follow the national party to do that, but you also shouldn't just follow opinion polls either.
Donations to their legal
Donations to their legal defense fun can be dropped off at reception. Only Russian rubles or Ukranian hryvnia, of course.
Google is fun, huh?
Google is fun, huh?
Par for the course for a big wig fund raiser
I do recall that in the 8 year period before Pence became Vice President many a rush hour commute ruined by Secret Service protocols centering around politicians looking to get major bank from people we never see riding the T. Sucks, but let's remember that this is a bi-partisan sucking.
The MFA being closed every
The MFA being closed every five minutes and LMA traffic being bottlenecked for motorcades for some .Gov bigwig to hold a fundraiser wasn't terribly nice to the public either. =(
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mid-90s working around NYC, during the Clinton Administration, it seemed like once every week or two that Bill, Hil, or Al would jet up from DC. Sometimes there would be the pretense of business at the UN, but there was always a big $$ fundraiser - some sort of luncheon midtown someplace with a little speech. Then they'd have to get back to DC for "important" national business happening that evening, which meant closing midtown streets, a river crossing, and a highway to the airport - at the beginning of rush hour!
Does a visit by the vice
Does a visit by the vice president really warrant major road closures?
If anything, the security people ought to stay in Washington to protect Mark Zuckerberg.
Pence needs a huge entourage
Pence needs a huge entourage because he is scared of the possibility of being alone with someone of the female gender. Mother would not approve of that.
Mike Pence refuses to meet with women one on one in a business setting and calls his wife "mother".
You make fun of Pence, I say
You make fun of Pence, I say what a smart move. No "Metoo" moments to worry about, real or imagined.
It's 2018, I think many smart men would actually applaud this.
but you do you.
err....
I'm thinking the #metoo moment would be less of an issue here....
Very smart on the part of the smart men
It keeps women from having access to information, camaraderie and promotions, and keeps the men who wouldn't be able to act professional and dignified from ever having to answer for their shittiness.
Ah, no way out then?
Meet one-on-one with women after business hours and open yourself up to accusations of impropriety from bad actors.
Refuse to meet one-on-one with women after business hours and open yourself up to accusations of impropriety from bad actors.
Glad we cleared that up. I was confused for a second there.
It's during business hours that's the problem
Pence wouldn't meet one-on-one with a female staffer, a Congresswoman, or a cabinet secretary when he was a congressman from Indiana nor when he was governor.
That's what is weird and unprofessional about him.
Wow- what a creepy thing that
Wow- what a creepy thing that is.
Yes
The Vice President would be a major target. Regardless of who the Vice President is.
Secret Service does a lot of protecting. I remember back in 2002 running into a fairly hefty Secret Service contingent protecting the junior Senator from New York. It made me wonder, facetiously, how much protection the senior Senator got.
Junior Senator
Just to be clear, the "junior Senator" from NY at that time got Secret Service protection because her husband had been President. Because sometimes women are both spouses and human beings with jobs and ambitions all of their own.
Most certainly
Her protection was part of the SOP of handling the families of President. Still, based on her title at the time, I had to ponder how protected Schumer was. And of course I hope the woman who had the post after her will someday have the same protection.
Ever Kayak around Kennebunkport?
Both the wives of 41 and 43 are as well protected as Secretary Clinton was.
I have never Kayaked around Kennebunkport
But I have noticed that one of the symptoms of TDS is griping about how much is being spent protecting our current President's 5 children. And naturally, I have defended the expense as I would have defended the expense of protecting any of the immediate Clinton family or any Presidential family.
Jeb and W
W was governor while his dad was president, and Jeb was governor while his brother was president. They had SS protection, too.
Schumer has had protection
since he became Minority Leader, mostly Capital Police. No Secret Service for him apparently.
Time for my Biden story
Back in 2007 my wife almost took out Joe Biden by bumping into him at Union Station. Later, I noted to her that she almost hit Joe Biden. She said, and I kid you not, "who's Joe Biden?" I, of course, noted that he was running for President of the United States and gave the classic "why was I the first of a thousand generations to attend university" speech. The relevance- no Secret Service for him at that time, just a staffer.
Curious....
If Pence is here for a GOP fund raiser, who is it for if not Baker?Certainly not Geoff Diehl, who is hosting Baghdad Bob Spicer at a $2500 a plate event on the 12th? John Kingston maybe?
It's for Trump 2020 and the RNC
According to the Globe and the Hill.
Can we do a protest of the Langham?
For hosting him? Asking for a friend.
Really?
You really want to protest a business whose entire existence is predicated on hosting events for the crime of hosting an event?
What country do you think you live in, dude? The price of your freedom to mouth off is the freedom of other people to mouth off.
It was
An effort to be sardinic, thank u for revealing my failure...
Around here and these days in general
it's hard to tell.
Rolls Eyes
For the millionth time: a protest against a business has nothing to do with the business's "freedom to mouth off" or the First Amendment protection.
For the million+1th time
The First Amendment is an embodiment of the cultural value of free speech. Freedom of speech is a natural right. You have it whether or not the First Amendment exists. If you are protesting a business for hosting an event by a politician you disagree with, then you are protesting the cultural value of freedom of speech, not the First Amendment.
If you're protesting Pence, that's one thing. If you're protesting the people he does business with in the course of being a politician, you are protesting freedom of speech, freedom of opinion, and the underpinnings of democracy itself.
No Roman
There is no cultural value supporting your notion that people should be able to say things or associate with others without repercussion.
There is a cultural value that the government should not be able to unreasonable regulate those things. And we embodied that cultural value in the First Amendment.
Yes, Rob, there is
Freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of movement are prerequisites for any liberal democracy.
Believe me, you do not want to live in a culture without those values any more than I do.
That explains the bomb squad
that I saw walking west on Congress St. away from the square. (They weren't running, so I didn't follow.)