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Owner of convenience store on Baker Street in West Roxbury wants to replace it with condos and a smaller store

Rendering of proposed condo building on Baker Street

Rendering of the view from the roof of Lissa's Beauty Bar across the street, by Lucio Trabucco.

Baker Street Market owner Louis Dakoyannis tonight showed neighbors his proposal to replace the store at the corner of Baker and Vermont streets in West Roxbury with a four-story, 14-unit condo building that would also have ground-floor space for a new convenience store - but one about a third the size of his current market.

In 2020, just as the pandemic was hitting, Dakoyannis, who grew up on Baker Street, had proposed a five-story, 24-unit apartment building at the site. Neighbor concerns - and the pandemic - put the end to that, his attorney, Nick Zozula, said.

On a Zoom call with abutters, Dakoyannis, Zozula and the proposal's architect, Lucio Trabucco, said the new proposal calls for 14 parking spaces for residents and 9 spaces for market customers. The ground-level parking would mostly mirror the current store's parking, with the car entrance remaining on Baker Street.

Most of the units would be roughly 1,100 square feet with two bedrooms, with two of the condos 800-square-foot single-bedroom units.

Two of the condos would be sold as affordable.

Dakoyannis pledged the new store of roughly 1,200 square feet would continue to sell beer and wine. "Plenty of cold beer," he promised.

Residents expressed concern about traffic and parking - in particular, where customers from the hair and nail salon and cleaners across the street would park when they can no long slide into the market's lot. Dakoyannis, who owns that building and the cleaners, said they could park in the street, in particular around the corner on Durant Street, since that little stretch of Baker is a commercial zone, anyway - although he added that if that becomes an issue, maybe it would be time for him to tear that building down as well and make the entire area residential.

Some residents, however, also said they were worried that people moving into the mostly two-bedroom units would have two cars, causing parking congestion on surrounding streets. Zozula said prospective buyers would know coming in they'd only be guaranteed one spot, although he said he and his client could look at a possible arrangement to let owners with more than one car park in spaces meant for the store at night.

Zozula said there would be an in-person West Roxbury Neighborhood Council meeting on the proposal at 7 p.m. on Tuesday at the District E-5 police station on Centre Street.

The project would need several variances from the Zoning Board of Appeal because it would be roughly three feet higher than the allowed 38 feet and because of its side- and rear-yard setbacks and because of potential traffic visibility due to its location on a corner. The project would also need a variance because the site's zoning calls for 21 parking spaces - 1.5 per unit - for the condos.

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I wish I known about this. I live around the corner and really hope it goes through. Oh, and more units (especially affordable ones), less parking is the way it should be.

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WOW!! Isn’t he already building the 5 townhouses on Baker Street? I’ll miss that little store.

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compared to the box store look. Does anyone know why the BPDA allows ugly, bland buildings? In the 80’s, they would tell you what style window or what siding you could use.

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Why should the city be in charge of mandating a certain style? People thought the brownstones of Back Bay were tacky, cookie-cutter housing when they were first built, and now they’re the beloved typology of Boston.

Aesthetic concerns aside, mandating certain design standards drives up the cost of housing because developers have to spend time changing their designs to fit the whims of whoever is loudest at that particular public comment. And from what I understand the design standards we do have today are why every new building looks the same. Requests to “break up the massing” result in the multi-style, alternating boxy facades a lot of places have.

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The design standards are weird because they're sort of backwards. Yes, all beautiful buildings break up masses and follow certain proportions. Because they were built with care and consideration of aesthetics, and part of that care included distribution of mass. But a lot of that care was also materials, details, concern for longetivity....

Just mandating mass be broken up, without mandating that, you know, somebody build something lovely, just creates these extra cheap post-postmodern matchstick boxes covered in smaller cheap ply/fiberglass boxes. This style is going to look like bad 70s track housing in a very short amount of time, dated and eventually synonymous with "cheap, not quality housing for lower classes". Meanwhile the buildings on Comm Ave in Allston still look great 100 years later despite being clear earlier examples of the "have some stuff stick out and some stick in" school of design, because they're classic brick with smartly applied decorative elements.

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Sign me up!

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Just ugly functional housing for greedy developers : Formulaic designs: Just squeeze as many units into as small a lot as possible. Disregard any universal ideas of aesthetics.
Do you think anyone would care to live here in WR , if the whole area looked like your proposal? You are just glomming onto the “WR aesthetic”to make $ . If people are so in love w/your architectural renderings/proposals : they can find /or buy similar in Hyde Park, Dorchester, or South Boston . We don’t seem to offer much of it here . Please eliminate first floor retail: it’s a joke : way too small, functionally obsolescent at construction. Just make it part of your inside parking lot . The idea is preposterous to have both. In the meanwhile; Have a “real architect” draw-up a design for living, instead of your Financial Advisor or or Accountant . We’ll have to look at this for years to come, but , I bet your bank book will sure look pretty. How about a shrub/ a blade of grass, a tree? Some green space? What an interesting concept…
I guess there’s enough green space already : Well then, carry-on and further contribute to the heat island that our City has become . Thank you and your developer co-horts and their Bank$ , for their “lack”of concern. Aesthetically yours, The lamplighter.

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compared to 2000 dollars those brownstones cost a lot more than today’s luxury condos, and they’ll be around a lot longer than them.

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Dakoyannis, who grew up on Baker Street, had proposed a five-story, 24-unit apartment building at the site. Neighbor concerns - and the pandemic - put the end to that, his attorney, Nick Zozula, said.

The pandemic probably did slow down the project, but the concerned neighbors now mean 10 fewer homes on the market. I'm glad to hear all of the concern about parking in a neighborhood where every house has a driveway and if you look at all the streetview, there is never more than 50% of the parking spaces filled. The horrors!

Some residents, however, also said they were worried that people moving into the mostly two-bedroom units would have two cars, causing parking congestion on surrounding streets.

Apparently this neighborhood is suddenly going to be Southie with no parking spaces and people slashing tires if you even dare park near their house. Maybe Mike Flaherty is looking to move his family into every unit in his retirement?

Anyway, aside from that, we should be build every single-story retail strip into 4+ story residential with retail on the ground floor.

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I live in that neighborhood and there's plenty of houses that actually don't have driveways, mostly the ones built along some of the weird elevation changes up and down the hills. However, that's definitely not a reason not to build it. Sounds like a great project that will help make that corner feel a bit more alive.

Not everybody is going to have two cars, either. We're a one car family, because the Commuter Rail is right here. But the plan to allow overnight parking by owners after store closing hours isn't a bad idea either, if only to get neighbors off the guy's back.

Would love to see Boston Traffic take a second look at the intersection, though. Visibility already isn't fantastic and it's just the one stop sign off the side street. Maybe a 4 way stop?

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This looks good to me, but the fallout on Nextdoor about this was incredibly negative (surprise, surprise.)

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“Residents expressed concern about traffic and parking… Some residents, however, also said they were worried that people moving into the mostly two-bedroom units would have two cars, causing parking congestion on surrounding streets.”

So nice that their property ownership gives them say over what anyone and everyone else does. I hope they get to spend eternity in a thousand-unit tenement with no parking for their Suburban.

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Are we going to have pools open for the winter?

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With Matt O'Malley and Ed Coppinger gone, who will now speak up for the rabid NIMBYS of West Roxbury?

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Why do you dislike/distrust/ ridicule the people of West Roxbury? You seem to have a deep-seated resentment. Most people are just trying to live in peace and quiet here in a semi -suburban part of Boston . If you know better , have seen better , why not go there?
I have been to some of the wealthiest towns in America . WR is just a small microcosm of that . People value education/ open space / variety of architecture/ churches /religion community. Easy access to goods and services. Personal safety . A sense well-being and of aging in-place in relative safety . Do you need to change this so it is more to your liking?
It’s a bit presumptuous on your part to think , it already hasn’t been tried or though of . Perhaps you : much like Ford …Have a Better idea?

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Thank you for coding your racism so beautifully.

“People value education/ open space / variety of architecture/ churches /religion community. Easy access to goods and services. Personal safety . A sense well-being and of aging in-place in relative safety . Do you need to change this so it is more to your liking?”

We get it. These folks moved in 50 and 60 years ago, before schools were integrated, when racist realtors wouldn’t show non-whites houses in West Roxbury, when racist covenants and zoning kept non-whites out of West Roxbury, when single-family zoning and 2:1 square footage requirements drove up the prices of housing to keep the undesirables out of West Roxbury.

It’s a damn shame that these younger generations don’t share your deeply-ingrained distrust of non-whites, that “religion” to them might include Judaism and Islam and not just Catholicism, that these younger people want the same affordable housing that you got 50 and 60 years ago but now systematically deny them. We get it.

And yes, we intend to change this more to our liking.

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In the past it has been Michelle Wu who has stood with West Roxbury NIMYBS. https://www.universalhub.com/2021/board-approves-two-contentious-single-...

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