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Boston councilor says it's time to tax soda and other drinks made with sugar

The Boston City Council on Wednesday will consider a request from Councilor Sharon Durkan to look at a "sugar-sweetened beverage tax" as a way to curb various health woes - in large part by raising money that could be used to fight scourges such as obesity, heart disease and diabetes.

Durkan (Back Bay, Beacon Hill, Fenway, Mission Hill) says Boston should join several other cities, including Philadelphia, San Francisco, Boulder, Oakland and Seattle, which now use money from taxes on sweetened beverages, including soda, sports drinks and tea, for public-health efforts, in particular in minority communities that consume more sweetened drinks.

In her formal request to send the measure to a committee for a public hearing and possible drafting of an ordinance, Durkan writes:

Research has demonstrated that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are a significant contributor to adverse health outcomes, including type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and obesity, which disproportionately affect low-income and minority communities ...

Evidence from cities with existing SSB taxes shows that tax revenues have been effectively used to address public health and equity concerns and fund health promotion, nutrition education, access to healthy foods, and early childhood development programs, with a significant portion of funds benefiting communities most impacted by health inequities; and
WHEREAS, The implementation of an SSB tax in Boston could generate significant revenues that could be reinvested in public health initiatives and equity-focused programs
to further reduce health disparities and improve community well-being.

One group that has been pushing for sugar-drink taxes across the country is a non-profit founded by former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg - who shifted to the tax idea after his proposal to ban supersized soft-drink containers in New York failed.

The council will consider Durkan's request to study the idea at its regular Wednesday meeting, which starts at noon, more or less, in the council's fifth-floor chambers in City Hall.

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I'm sure that they'll also be taxing the immensely sugary coffee drinks that Boston's white-collar workers are so fond of, right? With such sedentary work, those people need all the help they can get to stay healthy, and it would be a terrible shame to ignore their plight, not to mention all the potential tax revenue.

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Doubt it. This seems to be aimed at prepackaged food and drink. Not Dunkin

Then.. there are many of us who do not have sugar in their coffee. So how would this work for us? You want people making minimum wage who already can't get coffee orders right half the time to be able to remember to press a button so one person gets charged a sugar tax and someone else does not.

This is a disaster waiting to happen.

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Without taking a side in the debate over what to tax and what not to tax... I would add in regarding anything that items like coffee at Dunks is already taxed , there is already tax revenue coming in from that coffee no matter how much sugar is in it. Soda and candy meanwhile falls under the food provision of MA tax codes and is not taxed.

So one could argue most of those "bougie" things people buy like little cupcakes on Newbury street, coffee and tea, even healthy salads are all going to be taxed already and already offer money in the form of the prepared foods tax. In many communities in MA the local city/town even gets a cut of that money too.

So as I said, without taking a side on the debate itself, the argument being made initially by the initial commenter is flawed.

Everything is taxed equally so there's no incentive to buy something healthier under the current system.

In terms of changing habits, an important question is if the fee should be added to the shelf price or charged at the register as a tax. My guess is that people only think about the shelf price so if you add a $0.25 tax on sugar drinks, people aren't going to change habits if the price of the sugar and non-sugar drink are the same in the cooler.

Dunkin' Death Tax and Affleck can make a whole new commercial about it.

The proposal is full of fatphobia. "Hey, people in larger bodies, we're proposing legislation to make sure people aren't like you."

It's bad science as well; dietary habits aren't as connected to weight or health as we think. There have been studies on kids adopted as infants, and their body types and health data are more similar to their genetic family than their environmental family. Food moralizing and teaching kids to restrict has more negative consequences than just providing a variety of foods and allowing kids to self-regulate.

Also, if we are looking at correlation (which still isn't causation), other factors are tied to bigger negative effects on health data than sugar consumption. Why aren't we taxing meat? Non-whole-grains? Providing tax rebates on produce purchases? Providing tax rebates for exercising?

Oh, I know, or really looking at social determinants of health and fining people and companies for behavior that causes stress and further marginalization (like city council bills that say that fat people and poor people are a problem and need laws passed to control them).

Surely this is something better done at a state level, politely there is very little the City of Boston itself can accomplish to fight obesity. The UK does it as a nationwide tax which while I'm not personally a supporter, the evidence shows it has worked to drastically cut sugar consumption.

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Any evidence provided?

Or just more misguided nonsense of gov’t trying to tax the enfeebled masses under the guise of marching them toward utopia?

Leslie Knope would be so proud.

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I’ll just take the child size.

Mexico has instituted warning labels on foods that have "excessive" calories, sodium, fat etc. The results are mixed, but it certainly educates people and helps them to understand what they are eating. (As opposed to a one-size-fits-all tax that can be avoided by shopping in Chelsea or Dedham.)

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P.S. I agree that this would make more sense to be handled on a statewide basis.

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A tax that will be paid mostly by people in minority communities.

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Thank you for this comment.

THIS THIS THIS THIS

This is what I avoided saying but I was thinking it too.

"let's tax poor people so we can force them to eat better" wtf concept is this?!?

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If minority communities *only* had the option of sugary drinks, I'd understand your point. But if there are always sugar-free options available side-by-side, what's wrong with a "sin" tax that would incentivize better choices?

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That's the problem.

Despite the disingenuous bleating from the centrist imbecile who proposed this, we have the money to fight disease. We just send it overseas and give tax breaks to churches instead.

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I am a left of center guy, but 100% behind soda taxes. Here is why:

- Is it racist? In Boston the diabetes rate among Black and Latinos is 3 times as high as white people's. Roughly 15% vs 5%. See link below, page-8.

- Nobody needs to suffer from thirst because we are imposing a $0.10 tax on a can of soda. We are blessed to live in a city with the safest, healthiest and cheapest form of hydration on the planet: our tap water. Even for a cheap and always thirsty dude like me, staying well hydrated is practically free and it never raises my blood sugar. According to my last water bill it cost $0.02/gallon (sewer rate included). If I drink a gallon a day, that's $7/year. And I don’t find carrying a refillable water bottle to be such an insurmountable task .

- Why shouldn’t poor people who get free healthcare (Medicaid) also pitch in for their sins once in a while? “New American Diabetes Association Report Finds Annual Costs of Diabetes to be $412.9 Billion”. Guess who's paying for that.

- Taxing tobacco has proved very effective in curbing the habit.

- If we must wait for a solution to be perfectly fair to everyone to implement it, it's never going to happen.

https://www.boston.gov/sites/default/files/file/2023/04/HOB_DIABETES_202...

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But we're not...

Yes the studies say "sugar consumption is down" but do not explain if its down because people made better choices or just were priced out of food so they went without?

I'm sorry this reeks of a poor tax. You're taxing something that alot of people eat and live on. Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe people are eating this garbage not for the lack of nutritional information but plain old lack of funds. By taxing it, you just made the cost go up, thus making it unaffordable now.

Ever buy produce at Stop & Shop in Brigham Circle? You'd have to take out a second mortgage to get them.

You want people to eat better? Get healthier choices to be more affordable. Its absurd that in this country you can buy a package of Ramen Noodles for 25 cents that contains enough sodium for a week, yet an Apple cost 3 bucks. Something is rotten here, and its not the apple.

But no instead we do silly taxes on things instead of fixing the problem.... We're helping.. but we're not.

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My first reaction was this tax could be a good thing but not so sure anymore. It’s complicated.

What pisses me off the most is that Durkan thinks she's going to save people with this soda/sugar tax, but what it will really do is go straight to the General Fund so the Legislature gets even more money to waste on pork (ironically).

It's condescending, rude, ignorant, and does nothing other than soothe her white guilt.

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an Apple cost 3 bucks

Gala and Cosmic Crisp apples this week at Stop and Shop are 99¢ per pound. The average apple weighs about half a pound.

Not sure where you're buying your $3 apples, but this week at Stop and Shop $3 will get you half a dozen.

(Organic Cosmic Crisp apples at Whole Paycheck will run you $2.99 per pound, but a) organic and b) Whole Paycheck. Other varieties are a similar cost and you get 10% off if you're a Prime member … or if you know the phone number of someone who is.)

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This proposal is about taxing soda and sugary drink; a highly diabetes-inducing product that has zero nutritional value.

Ones that worked and were clean. If you're out of the house and thirsty, it's almost impossible to get a drink that isn't a $3 bottle of water.

Even if you have a refillable container, you've got to find someplace to fill it.

A bottle of water and a bottle of Coke cost the same. Maybe if bottled water was $1 and soda was $3, more people would drink water. But if water is $3 and soda is $3 (or $3.25 w/sugar tax) people are going to buy the soda just so they don't feel ripped off.

Instead of a sugar tax, make clean, cold water cheap.

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Someone who understands incentives.

I'm pitching a tent.

People generally resent you less when you use carrots instead of sticks

Water IS sold at significantly less cost than soda and sports drinks, about 50% less. It’s your retailers that want to capitalize on the high margin.

…. make free municipal water more available. Year round. You hardly ever see a public water fountain any more. They are like pay phones.
Bottled water is no safer and takes a tole on the environment with its transportation and plastics.

I believe it is still the law that any establishment that serves food and drink must give a glass of tap water to anyone who asks. But some refuse and there are no consequences.

There are bubblers on the Common which haven't worked for at least 30 years. Long ago, they replaced the old concrete constant-flow ones with a flawed design which broke almost immediately.

And a dearth of them overall. Is there even one on City Hall Plaza?

Should be on sidewalks throughout the city. Make them taps instead of fountains so you can refill bottles.

City should also end price gouging of convenience stores for water. No excuse for selling water at $2 or more. Make it a loss-leader condition of their licensing to charge at cost.

Float a trial balloon and propose a (poor) tax to win the praise of dogoodniks and thereby burnish one’s so-called progressive credentials so you can get down to the real work of gentrifying, aiding developers, big tech, gaming, pharma and on and on. Phooey!

Shots of sugary liquor, sugar, whipped cream....Starbies is a tax bonanza. So where is a cannoli tax, gummy bear tax, cupcake tax, cotton candy tax, ice cream tax....It is a screw job. The wealthy just get what they want and can pay, a kid with a five dollar bill at the corner store gets screwed.

if its so important lets cut other less important city spending and fund the no fat initiative.

Good government are two words that seldom fit in a sentence.....

Or drive over the bridge to Quincy and Shop there?

I know people who Drive to New Hampshire to buy cigarettes. Quincy sounds like a breeze compared to that
I bet the majority will shop elsewhere if they buy enough soda that it is a concern, those who can't travel to shop will need to take the advice from Henry Hill in the Movie Goodfellas. and I'm paraphrasing ..can't shop in Quincy? "Fuck you pay me"

The Stop & Shop in Dedham is convenient. I thought this sort of "fat tax" was unnecessary because everyone in Boston is biking to work.