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DA: No excessive force in police takedown of teen at Roxbury Community College
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Duh
Sad we had to waste time on this.
I guess my eyes decieved me.
I guess my eyes decieved me.
Nope
Just to good ol' knoggin'
After a one year
After a one year investigation, Conley picks a Friday for this news dump? I smell the stench of injustice.
Officer McManus
"The officers used a level of force proportional to [the suspect's] resistance."
Proportional my ass. Did the kid punch any of the cops or stick a knee in their ribs??
So Officer McManus is back in business on the BPD after his role in subduing a man suspected of an open container of alcohol with merited "proportional force", and beating up on a 16 year old? No this is good. We get the BPD we deserve, and you can thank Conley, Davis and Menino for setting a low bar on what protect and serve means.
Proportional is not the same
Proportional is not the same as equal to.
Very intelligent commentary
Very intelligent commentary on the video. If you don't want the cops on you, don't commit crimes. Pretty simple.
Typical Conley/cop bullshit
He's not a bad prosecutor, but I don't think he should have jurisdiction over these types of cases. He probably knows personally some or all of the officers involved.
I Tend to Agree
Not a cop, but I know a bit about what they can and can't do. It really doesn't look like more than two guys are hitting him. The rest are just sitting on him or trying to get out of each other's way. It looks bad but it doesn't look dirty bad. The report seems believeable. I don't disagree with the final decision.
But I don't know how a DA can ever really look at his own major city PD objectively. Places like Boston, Cambridge, Worcester, Springfield, they make up too many cases for the local DA. There will always be a hope of not having to charge them. They ought to refer them out.
Nothing to see here, folks!
The kid is a known scumbag, possibly dangerous and given the fact that 9 year old kids pack Glocks nowadays, I see no problem in how the cops took this kid down.
And this from a guy who got his ass beat by 4 cops in a room with a phone book in the basement of the old District Four when I was 16. Just for mouthing off.
But they look like such wusses!
A dozen grown men versus one 165 pound teenager- five holding the kid down while one or two beat and kick his squirming body. Like a violent "screw in a lightbulb" joke. Really, guys? Truly a shameful display.
Anyone who's ever broken up a fight knows it takes no more than two guys of reasonable strength and weight to immobilize a person who doesn't have a weapon, unless they're fucking Mike Tyson or something. Which this kid was clearly not.
Out of curiosity, did anything happen to those thugs who found the time to beat on you "for mouthing off"?
Nope, not a damn thing
I had been pinched in Kenmore Square with some of my friends for DTP and before the wagon showed up to haul us away, I engaged the arresting officer in some angel dust influenced speculation on how his formative years with his mother caused him to become a cop.
Once the wagon had gone down the ramp into the garage at District Four, they moved my three companions into holding and took me in a room where there was another uniformed cop and two plainclothes.
One of the plainclothes looked at me and said; "Gotta big fucking mouth on ya, we he-ah?" Before I could respond I was smacked squarely in the side of the head with a Yellow Pages. One of the OLD Yellow Pages. One of the other cops joined in and started beating me with another phone book for about five minutes. When it was over, the took me to holding and tripped me so that I fell face first into the cell door, thereby establishing an alibi if I complained about the beating.
When the old man bailed me out and I told him the story, he sat me down at the Bulkie and told me I got off easy and how mouthing off to my friends was one thing, but never mouth off to a cop. He also told me not to tell my mother, who would have given me a worse trimming than the cops gave me, graduate of Cardinal Cushing High that she was.
They were trying to handcuff
They were trying to handcuff him and he didn't want to be handcuffed, what more needs to be said? It would have been very simple if he cooperated but he chose not to. I guess they could have ended it pretty quickly with a few boots to the head but they didn't do that. Maybe if they had said, "pretty please" he would have let them arrest him without a struggle. I'm sure the kid is a wonderful and productive member of the community.
Seriously Dan?
I assure you that it is very hard to get someones hands away from their body if they try to keep them close to their body.
Immobilizing someone is different than securing their hands.
Not too suprising here
(for those who know case law regarding use of force and the police)
But I am hearing that the Rt3 shooting case is taking an interesing turn. There are some questions that need to be answered there from what I am hearing.
Not suprising
Shooting someone that's unarmed who just got out of a disabled car doesn't pass the sniff test. Sounds like some military vet turned police officer got way too jumpy, or too heated.
This one? It's legal and not surprising. If you're resisting arrest and not letting a cop handcuff you while holding you hands under you body like you're concealing something; they have every right to strike your limbs and body at pressure points so they can cuff you.
The charge of brutality here was laughable. Would you better he be tazed by .5 amps? I sure wouldn't.
Even before the shooting.
Ive never seen a chase go that far for a hit and run type crime. Those almost always get called off.
Pete you're not a Boston cop
Pete you're not a Boston cop - you're a campus cop - and shouldn't be speculating on what his justification was for shooting when you don't know all the facts.
Ah you don't know what I do
And I'm just telling you what I heard.
That's great Pete. Lets pass
That's great Pete. Lets pass on speculation and rumors regarding an ongoing death investigation. You have zero credibility or professionalism.
Im just going on what I have...
no gun on the suspect......
no chase called off on a multi-city/county pursuit....
It seems like you have more? Share it then.
No comments yet on the fact
No comments yet on the fact that bystanders recorded audio of the police? You guys are slipping.
you can almost hear the
you can almost hear the dissappointment that nobody was arrested for recording the incident. :)
Were there bicycles too?
n/t