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Because calling them roofie parties would be too crass
By adamg on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 10:24pm
Not everybody at Northeastern will attend Barstool Sports' Blackout Party for Northeastern at the House of Blues on Thursday.
A group called Knock Out Barstool plans a protest march outside the House of Blues at 7:30 that night:
We demand Northeastern University and its administration stand for women and denounce Barstool Sports and the NU Blackout Party. These organizations do not represent the values of our community nor our institution. As President Joseph Aoun said in a recent email to the university: “While we should actively engage different opinions and points of view — and this may result in strong and intense discussions—we will not tolerate any conduct that creates a hostile or intimidating environment for members of our community.” Barstool Sports and their blackout party creates a hostile and intimidating environment for women. We must demand an equal and safe university culture.
Anticipating protests like this, the site provided this caveat at the end of a post in December about some dudebros at another college getting suspended just for circulating a survey asking which girl on campus the respondent would most like to rape:
Just to make friends with the feminists I'd like to reiterate that we don't condone rape of any kind at our Blackout Parties in mid January. However if a a chick passes out that's a grey area though.
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It's frickin' satire, you stupid kids!
He has a wife! He's not really going to stalk television personalities! Get a life!
Anybody who knows Dave "El Presidente" Portnoy personally will tell you that in reality, he's one of the most ardent defenders of women you'll ever met.
-vtexposfan, a proud longtime Stoolie
roofies..
Adam you just showed your age ;) Its GHB now.. Roofies is sooo 70s.
Actually I'm wondering what the big deal about this is. So they turn out the lights and flick on some black lights. Its not going to be totally pitch dark. THIS is what they mean, not blackout as in date-rape-drink-too-much-ya-black-out.
Sheesh some of these feminists need to leave the commune, slather on some make up, make themselves look pretty and get out more. If they did, they'd understand that this is not what these parties are about.
One look at the flyer on BarStool's website screams this is what they are going to do. And I agree with the website's post "if some chick passes out..." Because this can happen at any club, any day of the week if they drink too much. Duh.
And frankly, if you dont like a party nor wish not to participate because you are a heavy drinker and are prone to passing out, then DON'T GO. Sheesh.
He has a wife. That's a
He has a wife. That's a start. If he only had a daughter. Then someone could call her every filthy name and humiliate her like he does to other people's. That would be karma.
His fellow co-founder had a wife, too
Dropped her while she was pregnant with their daughter. A class move typical of a Stoolie.
Who is the co founder of Barstool?
I thought he founded it alone.
Nope
He wasn't alone. The other guy got out years ago. In a very different line of work now and probably wouldn't appreciate being linked to this story. That's just classless gossip about the private life of someone who had nothing to do with this story.
The commenter above you is a schmuck for bringing it up.
Satire? Maybe
But your entire approach to the opposite sex is poor parody. Japanese Zeroes were shot down less during World War II than you are each week at the White Horse. Can't wait for shorts weather so you can show the ladies your pipe cleaners again. Always one of the surest signs of summer in Allston.
No wonder the White Horse has to offer $1 Harpoon White during the warm months. That sight is pretty tough to take sober.
I show them my pipe cleaners
And then they clean my pipe. Actually works out fine, stranger.
Does your mother know
That you talk about her on UHub? She might yank your allowance if she did - but that would be harshing your unmellow.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
1. Separate from Portnoy's case.. people who are married can't be stalkers or rapists? Okay, you're just dumb.
2. I don't think this movement is a personal attack on Portnoy. This is about people who think it's inappropriate to joke about rape, especially in a context where rape seems likely to happen (alcohol, darkness, brahs, etc). yes, the women choosing to go to this event should recognize what sort of situation they'll be getting into. At the same time.. why is rape mentioned at all in regards to this event?
"Hey, everybody, come to our parties geared at over-drinking college kids! Rape joke! Rape joke! Rape joke!" Seriously, who is doing their marketing?
Pretty sure I won't be caught dead anywhere near HOB the night of that event. I get enough catcallers/whistlers on an average night, when I'm not wearing anything remotely provocative. It genuinely worries me what would happen on walking past a party where raping a passed-out woman is considered "a gray area."
3. Your defense of this has made me realize you're a total creepshow. No more Tulip Trivia for me.
Sorry to hear that
God bless you.
So, to recap...
Within the last week, the comments fields on this site have deemed it OK to verbally harass lesbians, to punch a woman for getting into a cab in front of you and to get women drunk enough to pass out because then it's her word versus yours.
Awesome.
Absolutely correct.
Absolutely correct. Universal hub is a bunch of queer hating, raping, misogynists.
Thanks for the hyperbole, have a nice Tuesday.
Wow, nice false equivalence
Maybe you made that jump, but my point was there's been a lot of support for queer hating, raping and misogyny in certain corners of this site as of late.
That's not hyperbole, it's reading comprehension.
Hey you forgot us!
Hey you forgot us!
Naw
Just a few idiots who couldn't keep their bile up to the cleverness levels of 4Chan.
We know who the loudmouth haters are. We know they are socially isolated sad people by their spew. Ignore and/or parody them.
Huh?
How do you figure? I seem to recall that a lot of the comments on which you're basing your statement said something more to the effect of "just because somebody says something disgusting, that doesn't give you the right to punch them in the face." So let me get this straight--unless you support violent vigilantism, you're condoning the harassment of lesbians? That seems like a bit of a stretch. I suppose it's true, in the same way that calling condemnation of drone strikes against American citizens without due process "supporting terrorism" is true (i.e. not at all).
First Amendment rights apply to everybody--not just those with the proper point of view. In Wisconsin, right wing jerks trying to stop the recal of Gov. Scott Walker have vandalized recall petitions and threatened/assaluted volunteers; all of these buffoons thought they were justified for their destructive behavior on the basis of "standing up for what's right." I'm severely disappointed when fellow liberals sink just as low.
False Equivalency Theater
Nobody's advocating violence or supporting the punch that was thrown on the basis of a mumble. Take a look back in that comment thread. There were plenty of folks defending the speech of folks who throw slurs at lesbians.
Do they have the right to do so? Absolutely. Does voicing unconditional support for the terrible thing said come across as approval when unaccompanied by counter speech -- which is also well within the right to free speech? Yep.
Here's my counterspeech: If you're more than OK with people throwing slurs at others on the basis of sexual identity, then you're an infinitesimally small and mentally limited individual.
Attack of the straw men!!!
Gee, good thing that's not me--thanks for playing!
I don't recall many people offering "unconditional support for the terrible thing said," just support for the idea that people have the right to be jackasses and say terrible things (if I'm wrong, please point me toward the substantial amount of homophobic ranting I must somehow have missed on that thread). Further, if somebody says something awful, we, as hearers, now have an obligation to counter such statements or it's approval? That's borderline-neocon think: if you're not vocally with us, you're against us. You may be inclined to let biggots dictate terms of dicussion; I prefer to ignore them.
Further, if somebody says
It's not an obligation, it's your right. Nobody in disagreement with the slurs that come out of someone's mouth has to sit there politely and take it. People have the right to say terrible things, but you have the right to dispute those terrible things in any situation. That's how the First Amendment works: The price of free speech is the right of others to rebut that speech.
And if that's neo-con, think, just consider Rosa Parks, Gertrude Stein, MLK and Harvey Milk members of the Kristol family.
We're in full agreement with
We're in full agreement with eachother that people have a right to voice their disagreement when somebody is beig slurred and/or discriminated against; thank goodness people like the ones you named chose to excercise that right. However, I was commenting specifically on what you said, which was that absent counterspeech, being witness to somebody spewing slurs at an innocent victim makes it appear as if the witness approves of such slurs.
No decent person wants to be considered a bigot. In effect, your statement creates a kind of obligation, unless somebody wants to risk being labeled, to jump into the fray. That seems a bit harsh to me. What if somebody is outnumbered, smaller, handicapped, etc.? Do they need to stand up and voice their disapproval in order to avoid judgment? The whole idea is problematic. It would be like telling somebody that unless they carry signs for PETA, people will assume that they're against animal rights. It's a one-size-fits-all oversimplification that runs the risk of being unfair to people who genuinely agree with you.
I guess what bothered me in the first place about your original post was that the vast majority of views expressed on U-Hub are anti-homophobia, anti-misogyny, etc.; under those circumstances, coming out with both guns blazing and issuing blanket indictments of fellow posters, seemingly for the crime of not being militant enough, was needlessly divisive. That's all. I appreciate the idea of lighting a fire under people's asses for righteousness' sake, but in this political season, I guess I'm just worn-out (Republican step father and family friends to contend with).
Thanks for being civil. Much respect.
Not to say that I think every
Not to say that I think every post on this thread is coming from the right place--some people are being willfully ignorant and the party is in decidedly poor taste.
And they're doing it right here
"No, no, they were just kidding."
"Oh, no, they were playing devil's advocate."
"No, you silly ladies must not have understood the deeply sophisticated manly meanings of our comments."
Listen, if you've got women and women-respecters telling you that particular comments demean women and are asking you to stop making such comments, for fuck's sake, stop already. The best way to show you respect women is to, well, respect them.
(Substitute other maligned groups as necessary.)
Doncha know ...
It isn't sexist unless a man agrees with you.
Just like it isn't racist if a white person can "explain" it away ...
We're not gonna protest!
We're not gonna protest!
Evil thoughts are not evil.
Evil thoughts are not evil. Evil acts are evil. Thoughts are not real, they are simply ideas. And no ideas are taboo. There is no such thing as a taboo thought. Only actions based on that thought can be taboo.
Rape culture doesnt exist on it's own. This is not a group of men who celebrate rape. This is a group of people who deliberately entertain the notion of rape as a direct response to the unnatural power that some people give to the idea. This will always exist as long as there is such fear surrounding a mere word.
you want to call them mysognists? fine. you want to hate them with all your being? fine. but don't confuse words with actions. These people are not rapists, they just like to play with the power of taboos. And its over-reactive groups like KO Barstool who give them that power.
That would be fine, if it were a thought
Rape is not a "taboo," but a crime and an evil act. It's an act that occurs regularly in this city under the conditions the event's name mocks. The fear of rape doesn't come from the word, but from the realization that it's an all-too-frequent occurrence from which victims have little to no legal protection.
Rape's power is derived from the very nature of the act and the consequences for the person on the receiving end of it. The fear around it is warranted so long as people commit said acts regularly, with impunity and without fear of retribution or prosecution.
No, the Barstool guys aren't rapists. They just dress up like them at parties.
With any luck ...
This event and its "satire" or "just jokes" and "all in fun" rapey overtones will drive off the women in droves and it will all be one big happy sausagefest.
To the comment above:
To the comment above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5d_K2xfKwg
Yeah, totally driving off those women in droves...
It's just unbelievable how this (extremely fun) event has spiraled into something promoting rape? Time to get your head out of the sand guys.
Tell Us
How much do you get paid to promote these events?
Yes, it is that obvious.
It's laughable that you think
It's laughable that you think I'm getting paid to promote these things. Just speaking from experience since I've been to one of these events. It's mind-bottling how much this whole topic has blown up.
This so called "group" planning to protest a party that Northeastern has not even sponsored. Yet when comedians that constantly make light of rape and sexual assault come and are paid to perform at Northeastern (ie Daniel Tosh), there isn't a peep from these KO folks.
Seriously, people need to get a sense of humor...any topic can be made humorous--even the most serious ones. Whether it be sexism, racism, any ism really.
No such thing as "rape-ism"
That's the problem the knuckledraggers don't seem to grasp.
Then again, I'm guessing someone who peppers comments in a thread about rape with quotes from Will Ferrell movies has plenty of Duke Lacrosse t-shirts to iron...
The Duke lacrosse players
The Duke lacrosse players were innocent!
Get your facts straight.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/us/12duke.html?r...
Nothing gets by you, does it?
Yes, the Duke Lacrosse guys were found innocent, but Duke Lacrosse gear became the wardrobe of choice for collegiate and post-collegiate wankers across the U.S. who decided the incident was the biggest argument against rape law and women's rights since the last bitch who didn't shut up.
You seem to be one of those guys.
Bullsh*t, fans of Duke
Bullsh*t, fans of Duke lacrosse are allowed to support their team without any other hidden agenda.
Do Penn State fans support sex abuse?
"Fans of Duke Lacrosse"
There sure seem to be a lot of "fans of Duke Lacrosse" around here, just as there seem to be a lot of Cincinnati Reds fans on the Orange Line.
Sometimes "team" apparel is about more than the team in the logo.
Cincinnati Reds?
Sorry, I'm not getting this. Why would people in Malden, JP, or Roxbury want to wear clothing that supports the Cincinnati Reds?
Gang colors
Gangs in both JP and Roxbury sport Reds gear. The C has some significance here, too, but I'm not sure what.
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/opinionati/2010/10/25/the-abuse-of-the-cincinnati-reds-cap/
Whatever, promoter
This "extremely fun" event looks and sounds like an extremely dickish bunch of guys giving their fellow bros some extremely convenient excuses to let roofie coladas do the job their awkward, abrasive personalities can't.
They don't even serve alcohol
They don't even serve alcohol at these parties, they're 18+ only.
If they did serve, the venue and sponsors would get in deep sh*t.
Who said they did?
Didn't see that "truth" in the first post. Of course everybody knows you either pregame blackout night or hit Who's On First? after. That's truth, son.
ChampagneDream falsely stated
ChampagneDream falsely stated that there will be "roofie coladas" at the event.
source
Does "truth" involve reading comprehension
She said:
She never said there would be roofie coladas served at said event. She's implying that said event empowers flaccid, misanthropic bros to turn to roofies as a means securing and end that their offputting personalities can't.
Maybe that's too much truth for you to handle, brah.
Have you ever been to one of
Have you ever been to one of their events or even a party/bar/club/concert?
Until you have, there is no way you can make these false accusations.
That's right!
Yeah, stupid critics. Bet you've never even been to a bar in Allston, a club in the alley or a concert at HOB? I bet you've never even seen how hostile those environments can get toward women at the end of the night or even knew that Swedish nanny who was killed after a night at an alley club.
How can you possibly comment on an event called "blackout night" without knowing all of that extremely pertinent information. God, you broads are so naive.