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Hey, you kids, get off that fountatin!
By adamg on Mon, 01/07/2013 - 10:33am
The folks at the Boston City Archives wonder if you can figure out where and when this photo was taken. See it large - from which the following comes (which won't help you figure out where it was taken, but which is kind of cool):
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I see..
Readville Carriage Factory sign in the background between the kids on the fountain.
F.W. Sawtelle and Co
according to a 1899 report from the Dedham public schools, F.W. Sawtelle and Co was a coal company based in Readville.
And in 1904 F.W. Sawtelle and
And in 1904 F.W. Sawtelle and Co was located at the corner of Milton and "W River", which is here: Here: http://goo.gl/maps/zwTF4
Doesn't look anything like that now.
Navy yard
I'm guessing the Charlestown Navy yard. The monument is in the background and they look like they're on some sort of field trip.
I was going to say that, until...
..I saw the word "Readville" in the background.
Meatballs
Middle kid looks like he could be a young Menino.
That's what I was gonna say.
That's what I was gonna say. ; )
Wolcott Square looking north
Readville Station on the left. Dunkin Donuts would eventually rise to the left right behind them. Sawtelle's was on Wolcott Ct. At the corner was a building that housed the post office.
I would even go as far as to assume that this is currently the traffic island, but that would also be a stretch.
Give this man a cigar. The
Give this man a cigar. The fountain was in the square.
What is the obelisk in the left background?
It misled another commenter into guessing Charlestown, and I too had thought it was the Bunker Hill Monument.
MBTA power station at Forest
MBTA power station at Forest Hills?
A smokestack?
A smokestack?
The Stafford Company, Weaving Machinery
The 1912 Bromley Atlas of Hyde Park shows a large factory occupied by "The Stafford Company, Weaving Machinery" in approximately the same location as that smokestack. That would be on the west side of Hyde Park Ave., north of the Milton Street Bridge, between the avenue and the Amtrak line.
Bingo
Yes, that would be the location. I don't know why I wanted to put it on the other side of the Providence tracks.
Sturtevant Blower Works
would be my guess, or one of the other factories in the area. Sturtevant was the biggest factory in the area, both in size and employment. They made industrial fans. If you see an industrial fan built in the first 65 years of the 20th century, the odds are that it was built in Readville.
Depends on when the photo was
Depends on when the photo was taken. Sturtevant didn't move to Readville until after 1901. It certainly looks like it's in the right location.
Second Guess is
Knight Cotton Mills, which is currently the moving company (Gentle Movers?) I think their stack is still there. There is a drawing of the grounds at the bottom left of this map.
My gut is that since the City of Boston has the photo, and since the area became part of the city in 1912, it's Sturtevant.
They estimated it between
They estimated it between 1890-1900. Remember, Boston inherited the Town of Hyde Park's records.
Oops
Boston Blower Works was where the moving company is on Business Street. I was thinking about Knight, but they were a bit further up River Street, where the Mother Brook hits that dam and narrows into rapids (when it is flowing.)
I guess Boston Blower Works would be my third choice, but I am still loyal to Sturtevant first, then Knight.
Business st is too far away.
Business st is too far away. I worked in that complex in the 1980s when it was L.E. Mason.
Thanks for playing
Thanks for playing everyone!
This is Wolcott Sq in Readville. We're estimating between 1890 and 1905 for the date. On the back of the photo, someone had penciled "The Fountain of Youth"
Wolcott Sq
If you look at a close up of this less-than-optimal postcard taken from the Readville Sq. parking lot, check under the bridge and you will see on the left (behind the trolley) the wooden rail fence that is behind the children in the black-and-white photo.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Postcard-Arch-Bridge-Under...
The berm behind them is the Fairmont Line. The photo was taken from about this location (the only thing unchanged is the blue three story house on the right of the photo. It has, unfortunately, lost the charming shutters.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.237546,-71.130745&s...
There is an entire store block in front of that house visible on the right, where it says "Sawtelle & Co". That building can be seen more clearly in a 1940 photograph taken from the railroad station bridge
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-VINTAGE-COLOR-POSTCAR...
If anybody has any more photos of Wolcott Sq. from this area I'd love to see them - specifically the long demolished train station.
Questions:
The Square is named for the Wolcott family of Milton, presumably after Gov. Wolcott who died in office in 1898 or 9. What was it known as previously?
What became of those buildings on the right that did not survive? How about the fountain?