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Bailing your homicidal son
Bailing your homicidal son out of jail 19 times isn't cheap.
Time for Red Sox to cut ties with Jerry Remy
I understand both sides of the argument on whether Jerry and Phoebe Remy share any indirect culpability in the death of Jennifer Martel. Regardless, much like his Fenway restaurant, I think Jerry's time as a Red Sox broadcaster has come and gone. It's long past time to release Remy.
Yes. and...
1. Rename Yawkey Way to something else. Having your address named after a racist *should* be bad for business....oh yea, and it's immoral.
2. The Mayor needs to grow a set and challenge the sweet heart deal the Sox have for SHUTTING DOWN A PUBLIC ROAD 81 times a year. Every time someone cries about the city not having money for something...I think of this nonsense. The Sox get a great deal and a bunch of people from the burbs can have a good time (Kinda like removing snow for the Pats parade).
It's time my city to start focusing on its actual residents and not sports fans from the burbs.
Go Orioles!
Yawkey Way was part of Jersey
Yawkey Way was part of Jersey Street and should go back to the original name.
And it is no longer a public road because the BRA stole it from the city under a "blighted" designation and sold it for pennies on the dollar to the RedSox in a sweetheart deal behind closed doors. The public was never allowed any say in the matter.
What would you rename Yawkey Station?
"Fenway" is not a good choice, since it's already the name of a nearby Green Line station.
Fisk Station
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Jersey Street Station or
Jersey Street Station or Fenway/Kenmore Station?
Not the best name idea...
"Ok we're going to the Sox game. You should just take the commuter rail to Fenway/Kenmore Station. Since we live in the city we'll be arriving at Kenmore, so you should walk from Fenway/Kenmore past Fenway to Kenmore Station. Just don't go the other way, you'll end up at Fenway Station.
Third base!"
According to Google maps
Yawkey Station is located on Brookline Ave in front of Boston Beer Works. Of course it's not located there, but I like the name "Boston Beer Station"
Landsdown Station
Landsdown Station
Olmsted Station!
Olmsted Station!
"Ballpark"
"Ballpark"
Fenmore
Fenmore
You act like
30,000+ people coming from the suburbs to spend money in the neighborhood 81 times a year is a bad thing. Maybe the city should have charged more for the right to close the street, but either way the streets around fenway are virtually impassable around game time, so why not close the whole area down to make it better for pedistrian access to the park, so they can hang around and spend more money?
That gives the middle finger
That gives the middle finger to the 30,000+ people that actually live in the neighborhood. Right now Fenway residents are treated like second class citizens in their own home for 80+ days of the year because the city kowtows to the RedSox at every opportunity.
At one point the city wanted to pave a large part of the Back Bay fens to give the RedSox free parking and thankfully a young Dukakis stepped in and told the Sox and the City to pound sand.
Second class
Good forbid these rich yuppies that can afford to live in this type of area be treated like the rest of America for 80 days and year. try living in Dorchester where they don't even plow the streets and children are forced to walk in traffic to get to school. .. but the statehouse is perfectly cleared
The median income in the
The median income in the Fenway is less than 55k and has one of the highest numbers of subsidized housing units in the city. Rich yuppies my ass.
The rest of America isn't forced to be a parking lot and urinal for slob suburban tourists 80 something days of the year.
20 years ago fans knew how to behave. Now they act like spoiled morons every chance they get.
Strawman
How about we have both?
Clean streets in Dot so parents can walk kids to school AND some respect for residents of Fenway and respect for taxpayers.
"Rich yuppies"?
You're so ignorant it hurts.
I feel sorry for all the
I feel sorry for all the people who moved to the Fenway before the Titanic sank. They couldn't imagine what would happen to their neighborhood. Everyone else can cry me a river.
Who knew?
Yeah, because who knew there was a major league baseball park in their own backyard when they moved in?
Let's explore this myth
Oh, it's a very good thing...for some people. It isn't a good thing for the neighborhood, though. Don't kid yourself, the businesses that benefit are not owned by neighborhood residents, they do not hire neighborhood residents, and their presence doesn't benefit neighborhood residents. The cure for every problem is not to be found in a tourist dollar, because tourist dollars are spent on goods and services that don't meet the needs of residents, and they end up in non-resident pockets.
Questions
Were the residents living in this neighborhood when Fenway was built? If not, did they see Fenway when they decided to move in? Were they under the assumption that Fenway would be closed the Red Sox were moving to another area of the City?
Fenway Park was expanded how
Fenway Park was expanded how many tens of thousands of seats in the past decade? They added how many concerts and additional events?
Long time residents are really annoyed that the RedSox keep attempting to turn their neighborhood into RedSox DisneyLand after battling with the Sox in the early 2000s to stop that.
The whole resident supported Save Fenway Park and rezoning movement was to keep the park in its existing location to preserve the upper Boylston Street blocks for future development. That saved and rezoned land is now being redeveloped into badly needed high density housing units. How much tax revenue, businesses, and residential units would not exist today or be able to existing in the future had the RedSox been granted their wish to turn Boylston Street a seasonal wasteland for suburban tourists with a giant new stadium?
The Sox want to control all the real estate around them and in case you haven't noticed that's now the most run down part of that neighborhood. They don't put a dime into anything which isn't the ballpark and have been the biggest NIMBYs when it comes to redevelopment of any land abutting the park.
Nice try, but...
They've added 2-3 thousand seats in the last decade, not tens of thousands.
Get your facts straight
"Fenway Park was expanded how many tens of thousands of seats in the past decade?"
In the past decade they have added approximately 2500 seats. In fact in the past 100 years it hasn't varied more than 3000 seats.
That's called moving the goalposts, son
You and the Sox ownership both: them by a feeding frenzy of development, you by trying to weasel out of admitting that the stadium does not benefit neighborhood residents, as was previously asserted.
Obviously, you do not live in
Obviously, you do not live in the city. The Fenway is a major access point to Longwood Medical and as such, to emergency vehicles. Maybe all the suburbanites should take the T instead of clogging the streets with their cars.
Most fans do not spend any $$ outside Fenway Park
Be assured, if you live in the neighborhood, that fans from the suburbs come into Boston by train or, if by car, once they park they go directly to the ball game and leave promptly after. Yes, there are some who get some beers around the Park at local bars, but since the increase of liquor limits on the sale of alcohol INSIDE the park, there isn't really a significant amount of that business.
No, 30,000 people do not come into Boston for a Sox game and spend money on anything other than their tickets, some souvenirs and drinks/dogs purchased from the Red Sox inside the stadium.
That's why residents take offense at the diminishing resident parking space and the takeover of once public streets by private enterprise for ball games, rock concerts and now futball and hockey.
More public roads should be
More public roads should be shut down to vehicles. Causeway should not be open during Bruins or Celtics games. Getting vehicles away from huge crowds makes for a safer and more fun environment. But yes, the city should have gotten more money from the Red Sox.
Yawkey Way is also closed to
Yawkey Way is also closed to non-ticket-holding pedestrians during games.
Fair point, I would be happy
Fair point, I would be happy with that changing.
Residents are allowed through
Residents are allowed through and they never ask for proof of residency. So if you want to get through Yawkey Way on game day, just go to the ticket person and tell them that you're a resident and you want to go through and someone will escort you through. I've done this numerous times without any difficulty.
Yastrzemski Station!
It would be fun to see the out-of-towners trying to pronounce it, and the necessary extra-long signage would provide a little extra economic stimulus.
Also, too, "meet me at the Yaz" has a nice ring to it.
More than Sox?
A restaurant cannot live by Sox alone???
BRT says the location is bankrupt. Almost hard to imagine, since they seem packed with lines out the door every game day. Was anyone there during the off season?
I can't imagine
When I lived over that way, they wouldn't pack in many without games (be it Red Sox, or televised Patriots games). There's really no reason to go there for any other reason when you're in walking distance to Citizen's, Eastern Standard, Church, or Yardhouse; there's Cornwall's if you want a non-sterile bar experience (compared to Remy's). The Celtics sucking for a couple of years probably didn't help, but I'm sure that was minor in the grand scheme of things.
That place never seemed to have an identity outside of being a giant sports bar. At least with places like Lansdowne Pub, they could do sports bar during the day, but close the night with cover bands and a packed club. Baseball Tavern would have bands play every so often. And for all I loved about that neighborhood, it's not entirely central to public transportation, nor does it have the view the waterfront bar does during the offseason.
That's a tough location to keep anything going, in my opinion. Being hyper-focused on getting 90% of your revenue over the span of 81 days can be tough. The spot across the street will be going through its (I believe) fourthiteration in 7 years once someone takes Sweet Caroline's spot on the block.
That place was terrible, and
That place was terrible, and the food is horrible even by sports bar standards. Hopefully the waterfront one is killed off next, the great location deserves great food, not poorly reheated Sysco products and overpriced boring beer.
Bankruptcy BS
How can the Fenway Jerry Remy's (owned by Jerry Remy) go "bankrupt" and yet multiple other locations of the same chain continue to operate? If they have money to run the other places, they should be forced to pay their rent for Fenway. I hate when companies pull this "bankrupt" BS, when other parts of the same business are doing just fine.
If they were losing money and want to close, that's fine. Just don't claim you are bankrupt when clearly you are not.
Aren't most restaurants in a
Aren't most restaurants in a group set up as separate LLCs for this reason?
When you incorporate a
When you incorporate a business it limits liablity to the assets of that corporation. You can't go after share holders or other corporations to bail them out. Remy's in the Seaport district may have been established as a separate corporation from Remy's Fenway.
My understanding was always
My understanding was always that the Cronin Group (ABG, BBG, etc,) owned the Seaport Remy's but had nothing to do with the Fenway location.
Not positive but was led to believe that for a long time.
Bankruptcy types
I have no idea about the specifics here, but I work in commercial real estate. There are different types of bankruptcy--some allow a firm to "restructure" which means they can (with the judge's approval) get out of their leases in under-performing locations and keep the good ones. The idea being to let them out of some obligations so they can survive to honor the rest.
The good news is that if the Seaport Remy's also closes, you can
get the same crappy, interchangeable, sub-mediocre food at the nearby Atlantic Beer Garden or Whiskey Priest, which like Remy's are operated by the same restaurant group out of the same nearby commissary. They're bro-tastic!
this is terrific news
I'm pretty sure Remy's was the biggest total ripoff I've ever experienced in the food and drink department. Great location, great atmosphere, but the place was run by thieves. I wish the state's weights and measures department checked booze as carefully as they do gasoline. Watering down booze ought to be a crime.
A MGL requiring bars' drinks
A MGL requiring bars' drinks randomly lab tested to verify a match with the proof listed on the bottle?
Pair it with a hefty revenue generating fine and just maybe the legislature will hop on it.