By adamg on Mon., 6/29/2015 - 6:15 am
Remains of the flag. Photo by Hkergrrl.
The Globe reports Melissa Carino took down a Confederate flag that had been draped over the memorial to the North's first black regiment last night after State and Boston Police declined to act, each saying the other was responsible for the historic marker across from the State House.
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Well, maybe you are full of baloney.
By dmcboston
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 12:37pm
I was on the Common that day. I don't remember any Confederate anything, flags, hats, anything.
So, I looked through the bunch of pictures that I took.
Still nothing. So, I'm calling you a bullshit artist. The earlier commenter that stated it's probably leftie provocateurs has a valid point. It was deliberately designed to inflame passions, just what this country doesn't need at the moment.
Really?
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 12:48pm
Or are you concerned that inflamed passions might result in social change?
Since that is one thing in our history which has resulted in social change.
Maybe you can ask...
By dmcboston
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 2:36pm
...the 52 people killed in the 1992 LA riots how much they enjoyed being a part of social change.
What I'm saying is now is a good time for cooler heads to prevail.
It's a good time...
By lbb
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 3:19pm
...for heads to get out of asses. Whether heat or cold will best facilitate that process remains to be seen. Complacency and love of the status quo won't do it, that's for sure.
How many British Soldiers on the original Patriot's Day?
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 4:28pm
Why do I get the impression that you'd be a Tory?
The Uhub link.
By Irmo
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 1:19pm
http://www.universalhub.com/2012/tea-party-common
I'll grant this was not the only Tea Party event on the common, so you might have gone to an idiot-lite event.
Ah, yes, the vitriol of the left...
By dmcboston
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 2:53pm
All my photos are from April of 2010. The Adam blog story is from 2012. I didn't see that one.
Apparently they are two different groups. I didn't meet too many idiots, but there were some strange lefties there.
Did you know there are still Trotskyites out there?
Do you still have your "Palin is a c*nt'' tee shirt?
Bull Connor was a member of the Democratic National Committee.
I don't advocate flying the Confederate battle flag. It's an historical artifact, a part of this country's history and heritage. I don't think it should be used as a modern standard on the state level.
Would you censor the cover of a book called "Bloody Roads South: The Story of the Virginia Campaign"?
The ability to create a better future depends on our understanding of our past.
Bull Connor was a member of
By Scratchie
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 3:01pm
Shut up, you fucking moron.
Nope. Sorry. I won't shut up.
By dmcboston
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 8:17pm
Hey, intanet tough guy. Watch this:
Wiki, cause I'm lazy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Connor
"In 1960, Connor was elected Democratic National Committeeman for Alabama, "
Meet Scratchie, intellectual of the left.
Hey, I see the rabble rousing loser that hung the flag 'fessed up to it.
Idiots.
Do you really think I'm vitriolic?
By Irmo
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 3:48pm
I went to that rally. I saw the confederate flag. I thought it particularly inappropriate to be displaying on the Boston Common, but like most people, I though it was "worse than a crime. It's a blunder."
Trots amuse me. I don't have any anti-Palin possessions.
I'm just your average Masshole who thinks politicians should follow the Dukakis mold and keep things running, and not indulge in political theater.
Would be nice to find Republicans who think this way.
Well...
By dmcboston
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 8:23pm
Different rally, I think. I was at the one in 2010, took a bunch of pics, no rebel flags. Apparently the 2012 one was a bit different. I wasn't there.
Blunder, yep.
Trots amuse everybody.
"Would be nice to find Republicans who think this way."
I think we found one. Governor Baker.
Do you think scratchie is vitriolic?
Hear him out on part of that
By Waquiot
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 1:22pm
I looked at the photo and thought one thing- is the confederate flag hanging from Shaw's sword, thus making it a vanquished flag?
I'm not a big fan of the flag. I see that it is offensive. I see where having the flag on a monument to an African-American regiment is definitely offensive. That said, the stars and bars caught on the sword of a Union general who scored victories with his troops in South Carolina is a powerful symbol of the defeat of the confederacy.
Of course, if the flag was not on the sword to begin with, my views would be a lot different. I wasn't there and certainly didn't do it, so take my writings with a grain of salt.
You aren't the only one to see it thus
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 4:26pm
People on the Royall House and Slave Quarters Society facebook page were discussing that same possibility - that the offending flag was impaled.
Should have gone with a solid white one, though ...
"Royall" has two ells...
By dmcboston
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 3:02pm
...just sayin'.
DYAC!
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 4:26pm
Fixed.
It was originally "Ryall" or some similar spelling. Changed for the effect of grandeur, of course!
A Tory knows these things...
By dmcboston
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 8:28pm
A Tory knows these things...
It was an honor, guy says
By adamg
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 5:03pm
The Globe tracks down one of the guys who put the flag there - this guy in a joint Harvard/MIT program, so he's real smart and all, and says it was supposed to honor the sacrifices made by the 54th Mass. See, first they burned a Confederate flag in front of the memorial, then the cops told them to knock that off, so they left another on the sword as a show of, oh, something or other.
Well, if he's so smart
By Waquiot
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 6:13pm
How come some people were convinced an inbred troglodyte put the flag up?
All credit due to those who tried to get the flag down ASAP. I would have probably walked by, chuckled, and thought something about Shaw and Sherman's March to the Sea. Yes, I know the 54th were not involved in the Georgia Campaign, but it's my favorite Civil War Campaign.
A very bloody and violent
By anon
Tue, 06/30/2015 - 11:13am
'campaign' is not something that should be laughed about. And as a country, we have since reconciled (I hope), and moved forward. Would you like to see another civil war, more violence, the break up of the United States? If so, just come out and say it. An analogy can be be made with, say, Germany during WW2; I'm VERY pleased and happy the Nazis were beaten (they should never have gotten as far as they did to begin with, that includes going as far back as the Versailles Treaty), but I fon't chuckle or celebrate the fire bombing of Dresden and Hamburg (even though the Nazis asked for it). I fon't chuckle and celebrate the bombs dropped in Japan, although it's a great thing it ended the war and prevented more military deaths and casualties. Sherman was a brutal man, maybe psychopathic in his thinking. Let sleeping dogs sleep.
Sherman's March
By Michael Kerpan
Tue, 06/30/2015 - 12:00pm
A sound campaign:
http://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/s...
apparently not that smart
By norp
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 6:29pm
apparently not that smart
I've been mouthing off all week, defending these guys
By moxie
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 7:01pm
Because after reading everything that I've read, I respect the hell out of Jackson's foot cavalry and the guys from Alabama on the far left, who the 20th Maine stood up against in 1863.
If I lived in Charleston I would demand the flag be put back up. But if I was walking by St Gaudens Mass 54th at the top of Park Street this past weekend, I would have been the first one up there, tearing it down.
The Boston dot com site shows a different perspective.
By be
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 7:04pm
That of the flag being tied around the sword. Wouldn't that be a Victory Statement?
As Yvonne Abraham hates to read
By Waquiot
Mon, 06/29/2015 - 8:18pm
By the sword we seek peace, but only under liberty.
OR
Ense petit placidam, sub libertate quietem.
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