The Globe reports.
Mayor Walsh issued a statement:
As a city and as a country it is not our custom to turn our backs on people who are in need and who are innocent. We have yet to receive guidelines from the federal or state government on how they will move forward, however should we be told that Boston is accepting refugees, we will work with our partners at the federal, state and local levels to ensure the safety of Boston residents.
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Any Sanctuary City mayors objecting?
By Markk02474
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:53pm
Perhaps Somerville mayor Curtatone will want the undocumented Syrians in need of refuge and compassion.
As a Somerville resident
By Michael
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:57pm
I would gladly accept Syrians as neighbors if they got to displace an equal number of knee-jerk bigots.
As a fellow Somerville
By sconnors37
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 3:00pm
As a fellow Somerville resident - hear hear!
Can't the mayor stand up for
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 6:36pm
Can't the mayor stand up for his city without your backlash? What benefit does brining these people have on our city?
Well, there's the problem
By Kaz
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 7:35pm
No wonder you think we'd be in a pickle if they come here.
What benefit do Italians and Irish and Jews bring to our city?
By Ron Newman
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 8:33pm
how does that question sound to you?
A teeming metropolis.
By dmcboston
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:46pm
Organized immigration. Ellis Island. Stuff written down, many rejected (I dunno how many, too lazy to google it), vetted for disease. Then released into the wild to enjoy their new found freedom.
There's a website out there showing the Hungarian border with the Syrians (and Afghani and a few others) throwing food and water away because it might be not halal (or whatever the word is). Not really gracious for free handouts from the authorities. Not a good first impression. I think the estimated 85% young male aspect raised a few eyebrows. Women and children to the front, the photographer's here.
Don't believe me? Look it up. It's all out there.
Out there is right.
By Sally
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 11:02pm
You really get your info from Allen West? Or a couple of other wacko sites that headlines the story "Muslim Invaders..."
Lazy indeed.
Allen who?
By dmcboston
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:25am
The announcer was speaking Hungarian. It was quite the mob scene. But, keep your eyes closed. There might be hurtful triggering shit going on in the world.
My laziness was about the Ellis Island numbers.
Sorry, no
By Sally
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 7:22am
Laziness is plucking one nearly incomprehensible video from a slew of right wing web sites--out of thousands of videos documenting the suffering of refugees--and making that your go-to reference.
Also kind of ironic that right-wingers are blindly taking information without considering the location or source...ahem. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/01/hunga...
Hungary is currently ruled...
By Michael Kerpan
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:01am
... by a (virtually) neo-fascist (sadly, popularly elected) government. Hungarian news media are required to promote the party line.
And France has, at the port of Calais
By dmcboston
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:21pm
And France has, at the port of Calais, many hundreds of people mobbing the chunnel.
France is a stable democracy with a democratically elected government. Which may be about to swing a little right.
There are videos, and I don't need to cite Breitbart to find them
"Mobbing the Chunnel?"
By Sally
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 1:00pm
What is your point exactly? Yesterday you were worried about those thankless infidels; now you're worried about...crowding?
Did you just wake up from a hundred years' sleep? Refugees from everywhere have been heading to Europe and England for years--this isn't a new problem. And while Syria has vaulted into the lead as the main place that refugees are fleeing, they're hardly the only ones.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24636868
Honestly. Try reading something instead of forming half-assed opinions based on videos created by totalitarian governments and distributed by right wing lunatics.
That's A Bingo Mark!
By John Costello
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:59pm
I can just see you there typing away with a smug smile on your face. Do you still yell at the Three Goats as they cross over the bridge you live under.
Syria - "world's biggest Terrorist Factory"
By Markk02474
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 8:02pm
from the lips of French President Francois Hollande. Fellow Sanctuary City, Cambridge will surely want some too.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/paris-terr...
Arlington
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 5:00pm
"World's Biggest Bigot/Idiot Factory".
Makes as much sense as what you quoted.
Also, the French have centuries of experience in destabilization and exploitation in that region ... and Daesh got a huge boost from our destruction of civilization in Iraq.
The "world's biggest terrorism factory" is western colonial and corporate powers?
i grew up in arlington
By Scumquistador
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 5:04pm
and still own two rental properties there. it has it's fair share of absolute idiots for sure.
thankfully this particular idiot was smart enough to move out
good place to own rental properties though
One could argue
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 5:34pm
... that Cambridge destabilized Arlington at the end of rent control ;)
I eventually moved out for that "scary" place next door, where I could afford a whole house when my rent went up 35% over night.
Why are you denigrating
By anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 4:26am
Why are you denigrating people of lower socioeconomic status than you? You are very clearly implying that it's a good thing for people of more modest means are forced out.
Huh?
By anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:05pm
Huh?
What does this comment even mean?
First they came for the
By Terry
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:54pm
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Statue of Bigotry
By Pete X
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:57pm
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...unless they're Syrians.In that case, forget it.
State of common sense
By Anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 1:02pm
Innocent Syrian refugees already shot up Paris, I don't think anyone in their right mind would want it to happen here. Unless, of course, you're a bleeding heatt trillionaire who can pay for an army of FBI agents we'd need to assign to each one of those "refugees" to ensure they don't go full allahakbar on us one day, like they did in Paris. Mr Soros, got a trillion or so you could spare?
Do you know something we don't?
By adamg
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 1:12pm
Last I read, one of the 8 suspects may have had a Syrian passport; the rest were French or Belgian citizens.
Fake
By aegtx
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 2:01pm
According to liberation.fr, it was either fake or stolen. The police are still working on it.
Riiiiiiiight
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 3:03pm
And according to infowars Omaba is really ctulhu...
Actually; CNN and others I've
By Patricia
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 3:20pm
Actually; CNN and others I've read are reporting on the fake passport.
Why do you find it so objectionable?
From what I've read it's pretty easy to get a fake Syrian passport.
Last time I checked
By anon²
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 4:19pm
Refuges don't enter with passports, let alone fake ones.
Limiting travel from war torn nations is a policy we can debate about, but how does limiting Syrian refuges make sense.
Let's refuse the people that are refusing the rule of and running away from ISIL. That will show them!
Any idiot can see the objective of this terrorist attack. Punish French citizens along with punishing those fleeing ISIL. This sort of stupid rehtoric on refuges is once again playing right into the terrorists objective.
It's funny no matter where you go, how the far right on each side is ultimately on the same team and stoking the same irrational fear and hatred. Same tools, different objectives.
Of course even the refugees
By Patricia
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 4:48pm
Of course even the refugees present identification to the countries they are traveling through. Maybe not a passport, but they do show an ID.
According to the Washington Post, some think one of the terrorists did come through Greece via claiming refugee status.
The found Syrian passport by one of the bombers has not been authenticated yet and I'm sure they are working on that.
Are you saying that it's impossible that any one with terrorrist sympathies could come through with the mass of refugees and claim to be fleeing the very terror they are proposing?
Are you that naive?
I'm sure most of the refugees from Syria are just trying to survive, but to think that there is no one taking advantage of the situtation is absurd. My God, I couldn't possibly be the first person to think of this!!
And from what I've read in the past few weeks, the problem Europe is having is that many claiming Syrian refugee status aren't even from Syria, just people taking advantage of the situation. Is it OK to weed out those folks?
it's a very emotional issue to be sure.
Think about it
By lbb
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 8:31pm
And of course refugees leave their homes in a sane and orderly fashion, carrying all their important documents with them. None of them ever have to run for their lives without even a minute's warning.
Yes
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:05pm
And how do you know you're dealing with a refugee who's here because he's trying to escape Isis/nusra/rebels/assad/etc and not a friendly bearded lad who's here because he wants to blow you and everyone around you to tiny bits to make allah even more akbar? There's plenty of both types in Syria right now, and it's not like he's going to have it tattooed across his forehead. This is a golden opportunity for ISIS to cause some real damage, and as we have already witnessed they're certainly way too smart to pass it up.
Wake up, nitwit
By lbb
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:53am
If you seriously think that the current situation constitutes more of a "golden opportunity" than has existed for years, you're an ignorant alarmist with a college-sophomore level vocabulary of dog-whistle terms and not much more. But I'll go there. Just what do you mean by "real damage"? A bomb in a crowded sporting event? Oh wait, that already happened, it was those two brothers from ISIS...oh, wait...well, if we'd just scanned harder for ISIS we could have prevented them from...um...
Ignorant people like you will always be chasing after the guy who robbed you last week, and trampling innocent bystanders as you go.
Certainly it's possible to
By R Hookup
Wed, 11/18/2015 - 8:47am
Certainly it's possible to have potential terrorists in the waves of refugees, but it's not the best or most effective method. ISIS has a large number of French and other EU passport holders in their ranks. *That* group doesn't need to get in a wave of refugees to Turkey and then take a rubber raft over to a Greek island to then get into the queue to get resettled in Europe. ISIS has the funds to send those people from Istanbul on a flight to Frankfurt and then take a train to Paris.That is much more effective and likely to succeed.
French or Belgian citizens
By brianninni
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 2:06pm
French or Belgian citizens born to immigrants from the middle east and North Africa. Great argument for immigration.
I'm sorry, can you clarify something?
By Malcolm Tucker
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 3:24pm
Are you Native American? Or African-American? If so, by all means, rail against immigration - since the former saw their land invaded, and the latter was taken from their land by force. If, however, you are of European descent, and you're yelling about immigration, kindly piss up a rope.
Yawn.
By Patricia
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 4:50pm
Yawn.
So which is it?
By lbb
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 8:32pm
Native American or African-American?
A very close family member
By Patricia
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:06am
A very close family member can trace her roots to being a Native American.
Is she allowed to state her opinion, with those credentials?
that old canard is so lame.
opinions are like you-know-what
By Malcolm Tucker
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:26am
Why is it "lame" to point out that it's absurd for people of predominantly European descent to carp about immigration and asylum seekers?
What "old canard"?
By lbb
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:56am
Your'e an immigrant, Patricia. You don't get to shut the door of the country club once you get in.
This has all happened before, you know.
Very cute
By anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:23am
But immigrants back in the days came here to work, and would starve to death in the streets if they couldn't find work. Now, would you be so kind as to tell us how much an average refugee costs the taxpayers nowadays?
Try researching the history of immigrants
By adamg
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:43am
No, they wouldn't starve if they couldn't find work. Back in the day, people from specific towns in Europe would tend to stay together when they got here. They formed groups to help each other out (this is why the North End still has feasts sponsored by groups from specific towns and why West Roxbury has so many tiny little Jewish cemeteries).
Is this where I post that 1939 survey about how Americans felt about taking in Jewish refugee children from Germany?
People (my grandparents) who
By Patricia
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:07pm
People (my grandparents) who came here had to have sponsors lined up before they came. A job and a place to live was also required before they even got here!
Also, as my parents were told when they were children, if ever in need - go to the Church. Many immigrants of the time (and today) find refuge in their church.
Sure thing
By Kaz
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:45am
They cost negative dollars.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the...
Thanks for asking.
Oh, and note the line in the article about how the UK is only accepting a meager 4,000 refugees and will therefore unlikely see any benefit unlike Germany and others accepting much greater numbers.
7/10
By Michael
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 1:15pm
Could have used a line about Elizabeth Warren being an Indian
By your idiot logic
By lbb
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 1:15pm
By your idiot logic, we'd be making Massachusetts a lot safer if we banned "immigration" from guns-for-all states.
Not quite
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 5:48pm
Idiots from guns-for-all states will at worst have a little accident with one of their toys and deposit their brain matter all over the wall and/or floor. A terrorist posing as a refugee, on the other hand, will do his best to ensure the brain matter in question belongs to everyone around him, and as we have just witnessed, those can potentially number in hundreds.
Quite
By adamg
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 7:22pm
It's been such a long time, so it's easy to see how you might forget, but do yourself a favor and Google "Dylann Roof."
Sure
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 9:13pm
Sick, hateful nutjobs like Roof who are willing to murder those who are different certainly do exist around here, but luckily they're one in many millions. Now, how many nutjobs are out there in Syria right now who are willing to chop your head off or pump you full of lead over a picture of an old bearded guy, among other equally silly things? And, more importantly, how do you know they're not trying to pay us a visit mixed in with the crowd of real refugees and collect their 72 virgins while taking at least 72 infidels along for a ride? It's not like they'll be wearing ISIS t-shirts. Heck, even if they were, clowns like you still would insist they're simply followers of an ancient Egyptian goddess.
Clowns like you are why little children die in Newtown
By adamg
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 9:15pm
Yes, Syria is a fucked up place, no question. So are a lot of places. But most Muslims are no more likely to kill you than most Christians
Really?
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:22pm
So you agree that Syria is a fucked up place - in that case, who's doing all the killing? Is it the atheist Russians? The Yazidi Christians? Giant desert scorpions, perhaps? Also, who's responsible for at least 95% of worldwide terrorist attacks over the past 20 years or so? Is the pesky IRA at it again? And lastly, care to explain how I'm the reason why little children die in Newtown? I'm all for universal background checks and easier access to medical and criminal records to ensure nutjobs like Lanza or Roof can't get their hands on guns.
Ah, the IRA
By adamg
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 6:26am
Tell me, were people demanding an end to Irish immigration when the IRA and their Protestant counterparts were busy blowing things up?
As for Newtown, OK, that was an irrational reaction to your irrational reaction. But we keep having Christian men going on mass murder sprees in this country and yet we do nothing about it.
Christians
By Anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 8:54am
Men doing the killing here kill for many different reasons - some kill those are black. Others kill those who are white. Or those who are rich and spoiled - you get the idea. But I don't recall anyone killing because a certain carpenter of unknown origins or his alleged pops from a certain fairy tale told them so, that hasn't happened in quite a while. And, like I said before, those monsters are very few and far between.
Now, remind me, what does "allahuakbar" mean again? Is it "take that, you asshole?" "Get him!" perhaps? "Mmmm, that was a delicious human heart?" That's what all terrorists scream before doing their deed - gotta be something along those lines, right?
Collective guilt
By adamg
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 8:56am
Sorry, I'm not going to condemn 1 billion people because of the actions of a few, anymore than I'm going to condemn all gun owners because of the actions of a few (except in ludicrous discussions such as the one above).
Well
By Anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 9:36am
Collective guilt is bad and all, and few millions out of over a billion is still just a fraction of one percent, but those millions would love to swing by and chop our heads off (or be a little more practical and machine-gun us or blow us to tiny bits.) There's no way to tell them from the rest of the refugees - are you OK with a few hundred worthless yanks here and there getting allahakbared every now and then just so you can assuage your bleeding heart? I mean, we already forgot about the Tsarnaevs, that was what, over 100 years ago?
Citation needed
By adamg
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 9:37am
Millions of Moslems? Really?
As for the Tsarnaevs, again, just so you know, I'm not a fan of collective guilt. Blaming all Moslems for them would be like blaming all Christians for Dylann Roof.
A century ago, Jewish anarchist bombers were a problem
By Ron Newman
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:15am
as described, for instance, [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/b.... Does this mean Adam's ancestors and mine shouldn't have been allowed into the US?
Shifting goalposts
By lbb
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:03am
Shifting goalposts..
Right. Never happened. Oh, wait...
Right! A long long while! Oh, wait...
Right! So few and far between that we surely don't need to vet the Christians among us.
...but why not be safe?
We may have heard something
By Patricia
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:08am
We may have heard something if the IRA was blowing stuff up in the states. Their attacks were directed at the British in NI and elsewhere.
No comparison.
and ...
By anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:04pm
funded by Boston $$$
Oh, minor detail. Meanwhile, Irish illegals were ignored in Boston. How convenient.
Don't worry about it, bro.
By anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 8:02am
Who are the number one victims of ISIL?
....Muslims.
By your logic, you've got nothing to worry about. Unless you're telling us you're secretly a Muslim?
OK,
By dmcboston
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 10:55pm
then why are they trying to leave the ME to get to, well, practically anywhere else? A silly statement, Adam. I think the ME is about where Europe was about 500 years ago, internecine wars on all scales fought constantly. Maybe some day that statement will be true, but, well, I dunno, the ME is a total friggin train wreck.
Internecine wars fought constantly?
By anon
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 9:45am
The internecine wars in Europe did not stop 500 years ago (WW's 1 and 2, among hundreds of other examples) and continue to this day.
Ireland, Ukraine, Serbia, Croatia, Kosovo, Bosnia, and the Basque region, just to name a few from the last few years.
From what we know so far, the bombings in Paris were committed by European citizens against other European citizens.
I said, "I think the ME is
By dmcboston
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:26pm
I said, "I think the ME is about where Europe was about 500 years ago, internecine wars on all scales fought constantly."
I said nothing about when they stopped. Reading comprehension, according to some good folks here, is important.
Please actually pay attention
By tape
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 2:05pm
Please actually pay attention to the news before commenting on it.
And also
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 2:11pm
I'd recommend some reading of history as well. What is past is prologue.
*headdesk*
By erik g
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 3:48pm
If I may borrow from the quote making its way around the interwebs (though clearly not onto FoxNews.com, where you most likely ooze around):
You do realize that the people who shot up Paris were the people the Syrian refugees were *fleeing* from, right?
What is particularly stupid here
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 4:29pm
Syrians are typically well educated and many speak English! A Greek-American friend of mine was translating for them while she was in Greece last month as they washed ashore in Lesvos because she spoke English and Greek, and most refugees had at least one family member with them who spoke English.
I'd say that Baker is an idiot if he isn't asking for more Syrians, not fewer! Many will resettle quite nicely, given their level of skill and language ability.
This was floated a few months back
By Sally
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 4:35pm
Sounds smart to me. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/15/opinion/let-s...
Not like the brazen giant of
By anon
Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:58pm
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