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Curt Schilling makes bid for Jewish vote
By adamg on Sat, 10/22/2016 - 8:24am
Curt Schilling: Jews so stupid, amirite? No, really, why are they so dumb? he asks.
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Curt Schilling: Jews so stupid, amirite? No, really, why are they so dumb? he asks.
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Note to non-crazies:
"SJW" stands for Social Justice Warriors, which apparently is an insult among people who think social justice is a bad thing.
Rule of law, please
In America, there's only one kind of justice: legal justice, and it's supposed to apply evenly to everyone from all walks of life.
"Social justice" is a synonym for mob rule. Damned right it's an insult.
So you don't think it's
So you don't think it's possible for there to be unjust laws?
If they're applied uniformly
then everyone gets fucked over equally and has an equal interest in seeing those laws repealed.
If the laws are riddled with exceptions so that Favored Group A gets a right that Unfavored Group B doesn't...then that's a problem because it creates a mechanism by which politicians can buy votes and abuse the instruments of government for their personal gain.
I'm not sure why this basic tenet of liberal democracy gets lost on you liberals.
Um
Isn't this what the book "The New Jim Crow" (published in 2010) was modeled upon?
Only to the point
that I'm agreeing that laws should be enforced uniformly.
OK, but, you know, they're not
So I don't really know how your "equitable laws are enforced inequitably but should be" argument holds water. Who are the people you're voting for that are championing this? Or, at least give me examples of those who are pushing us towards that direction? I get the impression that those you vote for fall on the right side of the Y axis; at least those who fall closer to center if not maybe a little bit closer to the right or further to the left (yeah that's a nod to Clinton) are mentioning such measures, but not so much from most if not all conservative contenders this time around.
It just seems disingenuous to say "of course I feel like laws should be equitably enforced" when you (again, generally "you", not specifically "you") support candidates that don't make that a priority. Maybe even more than "seems."
Of course
I assume that this means that you will stop whining about Miranda rights, marriage equality, poll tax prohibitions, Roe v Wade, Brown v Board of Education, Loving v Virginia, the strike down of anti sodomy laws, Obamacare, etc.
And when did I whine about any of those?
Well, except Obamacare. But explain to me how that one is a constitutional right the way voting and right to counsel are?
Because
It was passed by congress.
It was signed by POTUS.
It was cleared by SCOTUS as not conflicting with the Constitution.
Doesn't get much more rule of law than that.
Perhaps you should spend some time exploring the concepts of case law and the interactions between the Executive Branch, Legislative Branch, and Judiciary.
Fox is now part of the left wing conspiracy now
Wow Oafish, you are a piece of work.
They spent the better part of
They spent the better part of the primary trying to bring Trump down.
No they didn't
Trump and Kelly even made up.
Maybe in some made for TV
Maybe in some made for TV moment. You actually believed that?
Silly Adam, don't you understand?
When they fought it was real, but when they made up it was fake! See how fun and easy it is to live in Conspiracy World? "Think it. Say it. Poof! It's true!"
Have to agree with the anon that replied to you...
Maybe I'm missing something, but the impression I got was that Kelly's arm was twisted to the point where she was forced to eat crow in talking with Trump. Because, you know, this election season, "not being very nice [to Trump]" was somehow bad journalism despite the reality of him perhaps not deserving "not very nice" treatment.
Sad rally.
Curt Schilling's rally today on City Hall Plaza was a complete disaster. Sad!
https://twitter.com/tedcooper/status/789879877222567936
That is hilarious. What a sad
That is hilarious. What a sad human being.
Was it Curt's rally?
I came across an event page on Facebook. It is referred to as a #HerLiesMatter rally:
https://www.facebook.com/events/196245867479917/
Curt is not listed in the description. Was he pimping it on radio? It seems he was just an invited speaker to a poorly advertised rally. Just judging by the event page, it is not surprising that people 1) didn't come out, and 2) didn't come out in the rain.
You want a serious answer, perhaps?
Jews like me support liberal Democrats because we're a minority group, and we feel our rights are best protected by being in an alliance with many other minority groups.
Well put, Ron
I'm not in a minority group but I'm a fairly liberal Democrat because I want everyone's rigthts protected as well.
And a serious rebuttal, for completess
Jews like me support a large subset of the (pre Trump) Republican platform because we believe in limited government, individual liberty, and a rigidly uniformly applied rule of law.
I personally am categorically opposed to any kind of identity politics in the public sphere on the grounds that unlike the Old World, America is a place where you can come and shed the baggage of your past and your ethnicity and blend the fuck in.
Other Jews that are more religious than myself may support some of the religious-right aspects of the Republican platform. Some believe in a muscular foreign policy. Some are gun nuts. We can be a diverse bunch.
To you and Ron Newman.
Tying this in to the original question which generated all these comments, where does Israel fit into your political beliefs?
What are your beliefs towards Israel? Where do those beliefs rank among your other beliefs?
Speaking for me only
and not for the other five million American Jews...
The Israelis are the good guys in the same way we are the good guys. Small-d democratic, deeply seated Western-oriented culture, mostly codified and enforced laws protecting personal and economic freedoms. Our interests and theirs ought to land on the same side most of the time because of those cultural commonalities and ideological ties.
Israel
I'm for a two-state solution and I'm against the Likud and all of the right-wing Israeli parties that are allied with Likud. None of which has much relevance to my choice between a competent, unexciting center-left Democrat and an ignorant, boorish, egotistical, megalomaniacal narcissistic oaf.
I'm a US citizen, not an Israeli citizen. I vote on the basis of what I think is best for the US.
False choice
Why can't I do both? Assimilate into American culture and keep my Jewish customs?
Assimilation didn't save the European Jews in the 1930s-40s, by the way.
There's a fine line
between keeping your culture (all for that) and treating yourself as an outsider (not at all for that). If there were an easy way to describe what I mean in a few words, I'd be a rich man, but I'll give it a shot.
So let's say I come from a Mumble country, and I want to patronize (or set up) a Mumble-goods store and consume Mumble-language media. And I want to make sure my kids learn to speak Mumble. And I want to socialize with other Mumblers. Well...so far so good. We all have freedom of association, and freedom of speech, and freedom of commerce. And so long as my Mumble store serves everyone who comes through the door, no problems. That's keeping your culture.
The problems can start to crop up when I associate exclusively with other Mumblers. And I don't mean family or friends...that's natural and mostly harmless. I mean that I refuse to patronize non-Mumble businesses. Not just for specialty items like books or newspapers or foods, but for everything. I won't buy a gallon of paint unless it's Mumble paint. I won't let a non-Mumbler work on my car. I won't work at a non-Mumble establishment. That's where there can be room for problems.
And the other thing that I take personal exception to and think is a recipe for disaster is identity block politics. The idea that if I'm a Mumbler and I think there ought to be a law about X, then I have to get other Mumblers to gang up with me to influence policy. If it's something positive, for lack of a better word, then sure...why not. But what sometimes can happen with certain ethno-centric political organization is that it's not positive, it's asking for a hard change and setting up a confrontation of an us and a them where one side is all ethnic and the other side is the Them that isn't Us. And ethnic pride is used as a call to arms to drum up signatures or votes or whatever.
My own belief is that it's not healthy for people to blatantly telegraph their otherness to the rest of society by refusing to engage with them. So while it's OK for me to patronize Mumble businesses, I shouldn't do so exclusively. While it's OK to send my kids to Mumbler schools, I shouldn't discourage them from making non-Mumbler friends. I shouldn't refuse to consume media in English and I shouldn't demand government services in Mumble.
While any one or just a few of those things can be perfectly benign, taken together, it can create divisions between people who should view themselves as fellow citizens. It can build a psychological wall between you and your neighbor. And that's dangerous because walls in the head are the seeds for walls in real life.
Assimilation isn't the same thing as blending. So you have your holidays and schools and shops and friends and language. But you shouldn't wall yourself off from society at large on the grounds that they aren't your people. You
should engage with your fellow Americans and you should have more in common with them ideologically and philosophically than not, so that when you look at each other, he doesn't see some Jew and you don't see some Anglo, but you see your neighbor and fellow citizen. It's about mutual respect for the fragile underpinnings of civilized society.
Did that make any sense?
I'm always going to be an "outsider"
if I live in a country where 80+% of the people are Christians, observing Christian holidays. And I'm fine with that, as long as I'm not compelled to participate in Christian practices (such as prayers in public schools, for instance).
Yes and no.
Everyone can claim some sort of otherness. Irish, Italians, Swedes, Chinese, Koreans, Mormons, whatever. The point is that on the really basic basics, we should pretty much agree and not revel in how far away from that center off mass we are.
No, it didn't make any sense
What a bunch of long winded nonsense.
What US citizens and immigrants "should" do is be law-abiding.
Full stop.
A real world primary match up scenario.
Curt Schilling vs Gabriel Gomez.
Gomez ran against Markey in the special election for Kerry's seat in 2013. Here is an archive of his issues page:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140227234414/http://www.gomezforma.com/iss...
This is for everyone who isn
This is for everyone who isn't quite sure Schilling is an idiot here:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/a-12-year-history-of-curt-schillings-out...
His idiotic tweet from August
His idiotic tweet from August 2015 was followed by a year of horrific acts of terror.
Can we agree...
If his number is retired at Fenway park that the day of the event that he should be duct tape to a chair along with him mouth?
Brietbart Curt
Oh boy. This should be fun. Another lunatic in the asylum.
http://deadspin.com/report-curt-schilling-to-pick-himself-up-by-his-boot...
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