Outside the State House.
About 250 demonstrators - split between BPS and college students - marched from the Common to the State House and City Hall today to urge Gov. Baker and Mayor Walsh to formally declare sanctuaries for not just undocumented immigrants but other minority groups, including lesbians, gays and transgender people as we move into the Trump era.
They had a specific demand for Baker: Denounce Steve Bannon.
The protesters also demanded that the two elected officials protect public schools from a potential onslaught by privatization forces. Speakers at a rally at the Parkman discussed their work on the successful No on 2 campaign, in which Massachusetts rejected a proposal to allow the creation of 12 new charter schools every year.
"No Trump, no KKK, no racist USA!" was among the chants shouted out during the rally and the march up to the State House. A contingent peacefully entered the State House - after leaving their signs outside - and went up to Gov. Baker's office, where an aide came out and told them the governor was "unavailable".
Her entire sign read "People before Profits:"
@universalhub @ACLU_Mass they're inside city hall now, asking @martywalsh_ma to come out and speak w them. pic.twitter.com/jI2Y0jerJY
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Promise?
By o hai
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:12pm
nt
C'mon Adam
By anon
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 2:24am
This site is going to soon lose credibility. You're way to one sided & way to blatently obvious about it
Oh, that would be a shame, wouldn't it?
By adamg
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 7:51am
But I don't care. Bye, Felicia.
Yeah,
By erik g
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 11:27am
I'm sure Adam's feeling the financial pain of offending anonymous commenters who post at 2:24 AM by reporting on news of local protests. That's a demographic you just can't afford to lose, in this age of modern media.
Ban Anons First
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:19pm
I mean, really, who the hell does this git think he or she is telling you how to run your site?
Well maybe if the account
By Ryan
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 1:42pm
Well maybe if the account login system worked, that would be possible. But I haven't been able to log into mine without doing a password reset every time for over a year. I contacted Adam about it once and he supposedly reset it, but it still doesn't work right. So I gave up on logging in and and don't even try anymore.
you are using a consistent pseud
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 3:00pm
The problem is the "anon not verified" people who turn up at 3am and say stoopid things like OMG LIBRUHHHLLLL like it was an insult.
you are using a consistent pseud
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 3:00pm
The problem is the "anon not verified" people who turn up at 3am and say stoopid things like OMG LIBRUHHHLLLL like it was an insult.
Hitler didn't campaign on genocide
By Nick L
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 9:49pm
He was definitely considered a far-right crazy and widely perceived as anti-Semitic - much like Trump - but it was mostly considered campaign rhetoric. Serious conservatives saw Hitler as somebody they could work with, andnobody in Germany saw the gas chambers coming in 1933. Not even the Nazis.
I don't think genocide will happen in America, largely because our federal institutions are stronger and only a small handful of Trump'a inner circle has the appetite. I think a de facto return to Jim Crow + banana republic is more likely.
But the thing about dictators is that nobody knows they're dictators until well after the dictatorship starts. And I think more centrist-minded people are vastly underestimating how much damage Trump can do, and vastly understating how much damage state-level Republicans have done in the past few years.
And genocide against Muslims is a pot that's been ready to boil over since 2009.
"considered campaign rhetoric"
By lbb
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 10:25pm
Our institutions are stronger than Germany's in the 30s, but not as much stronger as I'd like, nor as much stronger as I believed a few months ago. And they're vulnerable. For example, the judiciary: never mind the supremes, there's a backlog of unfilled positions in lower courts that the Republican Congress is going to give Trump a free hand with. Corruption of the judiciary was a crucial element in the SA's power in Germany: if you can bust heads and know that at worst you'll get a slap on the wrist, while leftists who do a fraction of what you did gets sent up for hard time, it does lead to a certain, shall we say, exuberance?
Must be a different Hitler you're thinking of
By Roman
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 10:29pm
The one I learned about in history class was always an open anti-Semite.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_r...
Just like Steve Bannon.
By ZachAndTired
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:25am
Just like Steve Bannon.
But who's to say that Jews would necessarily be the focus of a new Hitler anyway? Maybe the new Hitler would be Islamophobic instead of anti-Semitic. Maybe he'd suggest banning foreign Muslims from entering the country. Maybe he'd even suggest forcing all Muslim citizens to register as such...
Question: why am I responding to this?
By Nick L
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 1:18pm
Because I quite clearly stated that Germans knew he was an anti-Semite (indeed, so was the Weimar government, but Germans knew Hitler was particularly virulent).But Hitler did not promise genocide. He did not promise dictatorship.
There are scores of similarities between Trump's campaign and that of other dictators before they took power. And your shtick is, at best, embarrassingly naive, or, more likely, smarmy 'look how clever I am' apologism for the greatest threat to American democracy since World War 2.
Sigh
By Waquiot
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 10:32pm
Read Mein Kampf, then tell me what people were to think Hitler's ideas were.
Condescending sigh back atcha
By Lily
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 9:35am
Read Mein Kampf, you say, Waquiot? Read what Trump has said publicly for years . If you don't recognize the same sort of incendiary language in Trump's language as Hitler's then you are the problem here, not the people seeing Trump clearly for who he is. You are attempting to subvert the conversation to make Trump look not so bad as he is. That's me respecting you and assuming that you're not just too dumb to recognize patterns in human behavior and government. I'm respecting you and assuming that you do recognize these things and are still attempting to change the conversation because you have ulterior motives.
Your defense of Trump and, in weird ways, Hitler is personally offensive to me. Most of my family died in the Holocaust. Most arguments defending Trump and his supporters from comparisons to Hitler - including most on UHub - are whiny and just plain wrong.
Most of your family died in the Holocaust
By Waquiot
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 2:55pm
Yet you are cool with the Nazi comparison with Trump? Wow.
Sorry, Trump ain't Hitler. He's barely Mussolini. We will have Congressional elections in 2 years, and Presidential elections 2 years after that. The Constitution will still function, and the Supreme Court will have the power to ensure that the Constitution is obeyed. The worst abuses of civil liberties a la Hitler will be FDR like surveillance of Muslims. I don't support Trump, but comparing him to Hitler is way, way too much.
Trump does not yet have the full resources...
By Michael Kerpan
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 7:11pm
... of the US military and police and intelligence agencies at his beck and call. Some of us have a (reasonable, I think) fear of what use he might put these to (and the fact that these entities are chock-full of ardent Trump supporters doesn't ease our concerns).
Double Sigh.
By whyaduck
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 1:50pm
Naw. I don't need to read the raving rants of a twisted bastard. I know enough from reading WWII history to know and understand Hitler's "ideas".
You're missing the point
By Waquiot
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 3:10pm
When Adolph Hitler began to rise politically, his distain for the Jews was well known. He literally wrote a book espousing his ideology.
What do we know about Donald Trump's ideology from his campaign?
-he is opposed to illegal immigration. He thinks that the Mexican government is sending criminal elements into the United States illegally, along with some good people.
-he is worried about the increase in terrorism stemming from radical parts of Islam.
-he thinks that free trade has ruined the industrial base of the United States.
-he thinks that the United States shouldn't be the world's policeman, that NATO, Japan, and South Korea should be spending more for their defense rather than expecting the American taxpayers to be paying for it.
-he has a dislike of mainstream media.
Sure, there are a lot of other little things, but that would be the basis of "Trumpism."
But, but...
By bosguy22
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 4:14pm
Don't forget how racist, homophobic, xenophobic, sexist, and anti-Semitic he is.
BPS STUDENTS?
By anon
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 6:23pm
Spare us at best a handful of BPS students, the rest are the usual cabal of professional protesters from the burbs.
Oh, were you there?
By adamg
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 8:09pm
I didn't spot anybody who looked like a particularly cranky keyboard pounder, but maybe I missed you.
I was there: It started out with 100-125 high-school kids along with some adults in orange vests and the usual 2 or 3 Workers World types. Oh, and lots and lots of reporters, photographers and camera people. Then, around 2:10, about the same number of college kids (mostly Mass. Art, I think) came marching behind a large "Water is Life" banner from across the Common.
BPS walkout #3 12/5/2016
By Chris Lynch
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:48am
Cranky Bernie supporter
By anon
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 9:13am
I am cranky ever since the Bernie the happy warrior lost in the primary which was rigged. That being said when more BPS students support senior skip day than yesterdays media event than the message missed its target.
I am also cranky when I read that if the students are suspended the Boston school department could be charged with civil rights violations by the Department of Justice. I am also cranky because when an immigrant was brutally attacked at Savin Hill station and told to go back to her own country not one city or state leader came out and condemned the actions of the BPS students who were arrested and charged with hate crimes.
The city of Boston is not your lawn
By lbb
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 9:29am
Be all the cranky you want, but realize that the city of Boston, and the Boston public schools, are not your lawn. And if you are condemning a group of BPS students demonstrating for Trump because some other BPS students committed a hate crime, you're not only cranky, you're an ax-grinding idiot whose only interest is derailment, not discourse.
Suspension?
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 9:49am
Schools have policies about unexcused class absences. They're typically like this: you get in trouble if you do it too much, or you have to take a zero for class participation in that class, on that day.
Suggesting that a different, more punitive practice be applied specifically in the case where a student skips a class to participate in political speech, whereas the lesser practice would continue to be applied for other cases - such as students skipping class to get stoned or watch a movie or go skiing - would be bad practice on the part of schools.
I think the protest was useless and pointless. I hope it made the kids feel better, because it didn't accomplish anything else. But I played hookey when I was a kid for many even dumber reasons.
Professional protesters?
By erik g
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 7:10am
I'm curious as to how you think protesting works. OK, so we're going with the angle of "these are paid agitators," right? Is this their 9-5? Or do they moonlight as agents provacateur? Who's paying them? (If your answer contains the word "Soros" or "the democrats," I'd tell you to delete your accounts, but apparently you thinks o little of your own points that you refused to even sign with a pseudonym) Why pay them to protest here, on this issue, rather than somewhere that isn't a blue dot in a red sea?
Trump's America, man. Even the fringe wackos are getting lazy. Maybe this is why your internet trolling jobs are getting outsourced.
iProtest
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 7:26am
It's like Uber or TaskRabbit, but for protesters. What, you haven't heard of it?
Unhinged!
By O-FISH-L
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 7:28pm
Just when you think you've seen it all. Luckily winter is setting in, otherwise they might try to camp out, again.
Shouldn't You Be Shaking Down A Drug Dealer?
By John Costello
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 7:44pm
Getting A Comped Meal?
Using the Zipper Lane even though you are the only one in the car?
Double parking with your ticket book up on the dash?
Watching gas company workers dig a whole while you watch from your cruiser?
Hey, if you are going to go the stereotype route, so will I.
Donuts?
By Roman
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 7:51pm
You forgot the donuts.
Sorry Fish, couldn't resist.
Fishy was busy
By Sock_Puppet
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 7:27am
in the broom closet in Salem
Unhinged!
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 9:21am
Yes, fishy, yes. You are unhinged.
Can someone explain
By Roman
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 7:56pm
without resorting to four-letter words, why anyone thinks it's a good idea to have a protest sign in Korean anywhere outside of Korea?
It reminds me of those 'day without an immigrant' protests that were all the rage in the mid 2000s, when these same sorts of knuckleheads would show up with Mexican flags to tell the rest of us how integral to the fabric of America they all were.
I dismiss almost all of the protesters' concerns out of hand, of course, but morbid curiosity impels me to ask an honest question about the sign in Korean.
There are actual Koreans and Korean-Americans living here
By adamg
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 8:50pm
What the sign signifies is that the woman who held the sign was probably of Korean origin (I didn't talk to her, but, yes, she was of East Asian descent). Sometimes things aren't all that complicated.
a thing about 'murica
By anon
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 9:14pm
is that we don't have an official national language. so, fortunately we are all able to express ourselves in the words that best communicate what we are feeling and thinking. sometimes those words are in another language like Korean or Spanish, and sometimes those words are nonsense like "yuge" and "bigly".
plus, messages conveyed in a protest aren't always directed at those in power, rather they can often be interpreted as messages of solidarity and support for others in the group/community (in this case linguistic) who might not, say, feel safe going into the streets, among other reasons.
I know Press One for English is all hard and stuff, but you know, freedom and whatnot.
And who would be giving them the idea
By Roman
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 10:43pm
that it's not safe to walk down the street?
You may want to sit down before you try to answer that.
oh i dont know
By anon
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 9:24am
maybe the swastika-painting trumpkins and kkk sheet goblins that have been more active as of late.
but like I say, the choice of a person to express themselves in a particular language can be due to any number of reasons, and needs no explanation or justification simply because you are not able to understand it.
Two possibilities... maybe
By Refugee
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:02am
Two possibilities... maybe she's protesting the South Korean president, or maybe she thinks Taiwan's independence should remain in the closet instead of being informally recognized by Trump.
You OK?
By adamg
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 11:12am
Not running a fever, I hope, but if you are, ibuprofen works wonders.
There are some people
By erik g
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 8:30am
who can read Korean more easily than they can read English. Probly they're trying to communicate with them.
HTH.
Protestors
By Bugs Bunny
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 8:26pm
The girl holding the "people" sign should've written more on it, the message doesn't get across.
F white supremacy? That is a
By anon
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 8:44pm
F white supremacy? That is a very well thought out and positive piece of writing. As Adam The Great points out- these upstanding citizens are 100 percent all either either BPS or well, well educated college students, so I am glad to see our youth have such a broad vocabulary. She will go far in life with an attitude and vocab like that.
Coarse language
By adamg
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 8:48pm
Is, of course, something Dear Leader's supporters would never, ever do.
Dear Leader's term is up on Jan 20 at 1700Z
By Roman
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 9:14pm
Though I have seen his supporters say and do some crazy stuff.
You left out ...
By adamg
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 9:18pm
The 2021 part.
Nope, the term limit is there
By Roman
Mon, 12/05/2016 - 10:39pm
to prevent that. Speaking of demagogues, have you heard about this FDR guy?
Want to offer a credible source...
By Michael Kerpan
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:08am
... for your characterization of Roosevelt as a "demagogue"?
He was a fan of interning people due to nationality
By Waquiot
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:13am
And since America woudn't accept boatloads of Jewish kids fleeing what would end up being the holocaust, he didn't care much for immigrants, it would seem.
Hardly anyone in America...
By Michael Kerpan
Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:21am
... favored admitting Jewish refugees -- and not many Americans objected to interning Japanese-Americans, but neither of these issues (neither of which constituted bright spots on Roosevelt's record) address the claim that Roosevelt was a "demagogue".
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