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The Times hears the outraged Southie howls
By adamg on Tue, 04/18/2017 - 5:36pm
The Times Food Section reports it's heard South Boston residents loud and clear and has updated the online version of its profile of Barbara Lynch to say she is "a fierce daughter of Southie" rather than "a fierce Southie."
Of course, being the Times, it's hard to admit an error and the Paper of Record says Lynch herself called herself a Southie and that "it's an old-school term."
H/t Drew Starr.
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Barbara Lynch statement to the Globe
from the most recent article posted on Globe website.
"Curses like a longshoreman"
The other change from the original Times article, replacing "swears like a Southie".
all this faux outrage...
..is coming from the burbs and not south boston.
just like those uneducated idiots that wanted voted against having OUTVETS march in the st. patricks day parade. one of the bigots that had a vote lives in southghton.
i encourage all south boston residents to call out this fact. our neighborhoods reputation is on the line!
Go Senarots. Go Bulls.
of course it's coming from the 'burbs
we actually read the NYT.
lulz
How the hell old is this supposed "old school" term?
If no one has ever heard the word used to describe a person and not just the neighborhood, how old-school is it? I challenge the gray lady to find a single reference anywhere.
Double Secret Old School
If you've never heard of it, well ... you weren't part of that exclusive Old School club, right?
Unreal
Southies, Townies, SoBo, Washington Village, Broadway Village, Cityside....who makes this shit up? We have become a "village" of idiots.
I have the answers.
1, nobody; 2, nobodies; 3, douchenozzles; 4-6, realtors.
Awesome
Aside: have you reviewed Publico, or do you have one coming?
Not yet, but it's on my list of possibles. You can always
find links to my published reviews here. (Don't expect much original content there; no time to write for free these days.)
My review
Ok to decent food. Cool atmosphere but can get loud with the voices and music. Drinks are pathetically small - I have gotten better pours in Canada - total ripoff.
Townies
People from Charlestown have long been, "Townies".
Real "Old School"...
Washington Village out of all those is the only one that was actually a thing..... in 1855. It was a section of Dorchester annexed by Boston, the area eventually became know as Andrew Square.
Townies
have always been a thing--both to refer to people from Charlestown and in the more general "town vs gown" thing that exists in most college towns, including Boston. But Southie as a term for a person? Nope.
Townies with a capital "T"...
...for Charlestown residents, yes I think we can all agree on that. I was referring specifically to Southie terms that the anon had listed (my fault actually for any confusion, I had replied to wrong post)
The lower cased "t" thing? Never heard it used growing up, only in last 10-15 years or so. In my experience its often (not always) used as a pejorative.
I heard "townie" used in the early 70s...
... in connection with native (non-elite) Cantabrigians as opposed to interloping college students/faculty (linked to the more venerable "town vs. gown" terminology).
Thank God cooler heads prevailed!
Now we can get back to our nuclear war with Russia and North Korea!
How is the NY Times like Trump?
It hates to admit it's wrong and is happy to present alternative facts, at least when it comes to Boston..
Your slam vs NYT is a bit misplaced
Since the entire point of this UHub article is to note that they admitted they'd got it wrong.
One imagines that like the rest of humanity they don't relish having mistakes pointed out. But regular readers also know that they list errata right in the first section of each edition. At least when it comes to blunders like this they have the excuse of being based several hundred miles away - something our own Glob can't use as an excuse re its frequent local-jargon gaffs.
(Otoh, Trump doesn't just hate to admit he's wrong - as far as I can tell, he never admits error. Like - ever. It's a disturbingly classic indicator of narcisistic personality disorder.)
They didn't admit they got it
They didn't admit they got it wrong - they claimed that they were just repeating what she said about herself.
Don't forget
After stating that Lynch in fact did confirm that "she's a Southie", they quietly changed the story without any notation of a correction.
Again, this isn't a big deal and I really couldn't give two shits, but someone is lying. The author said she confirmed it with Lynch, Lynch said it never happened.
Actually, they did note the change
But on Twitter, where the initial criticism came from, so seems appropriate. But note that they preceded it with a note, claiming they're right and were only changing it to shut us up, basically.
Because I had some time yesterday, I rummaged around the Globe archives (free access being one of the benefits of even just a Sunday subscription) from the 1930s and 1940s. I did not check all the articles with "Southie" in them, but the 40 or so I did all used it the way we'd expect - as a nickname for South Boston (pretty much entirely in recaps of high-school football teams).
What was interesting, in a non-Southie way, were the references to "Jamaica" as a nickname for Jamaica Plain and to "the Rossies," of Roslindale High.
Well
What percentage of those that read the Times check Twitter for corrections to stories printed and/or posted online?
Creepy obsession
with South Boston has not abated since the OCD buffoons saw Goodwill Hunting 20 years ago, and like the person who keeps checking to make sure the gas is turned off on the kitchen stove, it gets creepier by the day.
Perhaps time to get some help
Nobody has a creepy obsession with South Boston. You just think they do.
This site and it's readers
This site and it's readers definitely has creepy obsession with Southie. Just look at all of the shooting stories that usually 0 comments. You go ahead and put Southie in the title about some stupid NYT article and you get 13 comments and counting.
So?
That's not creepy, that's enjoying a ludicrous story about something inane.
On Facebook, it's the reverse: When I post something about people getting shot, I typically get lots of, um "likes"; something like this story, bupkis.
Creepy?
Or, people either live there, know people who live there, or visit that section of town often and have an interest in stories about it.
Hey anon
It's not your fault.
Is it okay for me to be interested if I used to live there,
or does that count as "creepy" in your book, too? I suspect the issue is that you have some attachment to the neighborhood, and it bothers you when some of its less flattering qualities are held up to light.
Southie has a gift for drawing negative attention to itself. But sure, the story isn't the news, but the people leaking the news, and reporting the news, and reading the news, and commenting on the news! They're the creeps!
Shaddap.
My take is.. in the kitchen
My take is.. in the kitchen you say hey Southie and she responds, or you're fired. Either way, All good.
Any publicity... :-)
And they still manage to F-it up
Uh no she didn't say it, nor did anyone ever who has even a minuscule knowledge of the area.