Another racist incident at Fenway - the night after the Adam Jones thing

Clearly you're not inclined to give Bostonians any credit.

Maybe you can explain to me what I would be "giving credit" for. For most people most of the time acting mostly civilized? Listen, even if you are a full-time fully civilized human being, I'm not gonna stand up and cheer for you -- treating other human beings decently and refraining from racist behavior should be a baseline expectation, not cause for celebration.

I give plenty of props to people who have actually done the hard work of trying to cure ugly ills like racism. I give them my respect even when -- perhaps especially when -- they are fighting a losing battle. But the truth is, I just don't see the average person doing that hard work. If you're white in America, racism does not have to be your problem - you can ignore it, or mouth false-equivalence platitudes about "there are jerks in all groups" and the like, or maintain an uncomfortable silence when a white person tells a racist joke in a group of all white people. We have that option, and very few of us ever step up to do more. So no, I'm not inclined to "give credit" without any evidence of effort or action. Do you think I should be?

I've heard it from homeless street people, and I heard some dude-bros on the street one club night yell it at a passing taxi driver, just for laughs.

Oh wait I guess you do hear it. Only it's from homeless street people or dude-bros. So all right then.

I still feel nauseous for FISH agreeing with me in public. I may have to abandon the Internet and spend the day getting some fresh air

I use ethnic "slurs" talking to friends all the time (ie "shaddup ya friggin Mick bastid.")

Thanks for letting us know we can discount your opinion as completely worthless, even before you said a bunch of worthless things.

Oh and this Calvin dude, def NOT someone who sounds chill to grab a cold one with...

How fortunate that he hasn't offered to have one with you.

I just have a prob with snitches.

He told the usher about it, rather than take matters into his own hands. If it were me with my six-year-old being called racist slurs, I'd've broken the other dude's jaw, so I'd say he did pretty well.

I probably offended ppl

Only with your inability to spell or form a coherent argument, buttercup.

but i really dont gaf.

Well, on this one thing I guess we agree.

The report said they did investigate AND he admitted saying it.

Listen to the witness-he even asked the guy to repeat it and he did.

And - they put a sign up with a number to call if anyone is misbehaving at every game.

Folks - I do not want to hear the N word or the C word anywhere, EVER. Call me old fashioned, but i gag on those words even when you say them. Just don't. Not even in private.

You can be kicked out of Fenway for any reason the ballclub wants. It's their club.

Seeing as you're an asshole with asshole train of thoughts, you'll find a way. Don't worry your pretty head about the above.

Are Kirk and Callahan still demanding proof? They're skeptical of the truthfulness of both the player of color and (how could they not) the fan. If they were sincere and had any substantive reason to be skeptical I'd give them some credit. I don't.

Stereotypes about black people have been around and doing damage for hundreds of years. Stereotypes about racist white Bostonians are much more recent, and have a basis in actual behavior, as we've seen in these incidents -- and yet, white folks don't want to deal with the discomfort of that stereotype. I understand that it's uncomfortable. It's natural that if you're a white person and you're not a racist, or you believe you aren't, or you don't want to be called one, you'd be uncomfortable with a broad brush that says that white Bostonians are racists. But why should we get to jump to the head of the line in having our discomfort alleviated, when black people have been putting up with racist shit for a whole lot longer? In other words, if you're eager for stereotypes about racist Bostonians to die, doesn't it make more sense for you to do something about racism than for you to try and get people to stop talking about racism so you can be more comfortable?

North shore, Roxbury, South Boston are all the same in the eyes of the national news media-- it's Boston. That's the way it works.

On successive nights at Fenway Park, racism raised it's ugly heard.... Red Sox Fans.

Here's the thing, no one is calling you racist, they're saying that's shit's still happening at Red Sox games, Red Sox fans are still doing that shit.

It is a social phenomenon. I think it makes a difference in the social climate when our head of govt exhibits racial categorical thinking front and center for a year.

I hope Marty Walsh reports back on his meeting with Che.

I mentioned upthread that Calvin is a friend of mine; I've spent a lot of time with him and his family, and it's 100% in character that his now-six-year-old-son would react the way he did ("Can the man go back to the ballpark if he apologizes?"). I still have no idea how he kept his cool long enough to go find an usher to get this shitbag thrown out of the park; in his position, I would have never been able to keep it together, even for my kids' sake.

The scars run deep in this city. I'm glad we're at least talking about it, rather than letting the chorus of "there's no racism at Fenway" carry.