Karen Zgoda posts an account of what happened to her round 9:30 p.m. yesterday on the East Boston Greenway near the Y:
Saw a skunk and turned around and the man was there. I was startled and started walking back towards home and he came up and kicked my backside HARD. I started screaming as loud as I could and hitting him with my water bottle and he ran away. I walked to the Massport cop at Piers Park and reported it to them and BPD. He did not take anything before he ran away. I am sore but OK. Please be alert as you are walking outside and NO MORE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.
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Thanks for the warning. Be
By anon
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:04pm
Thanks for the warning. Be safe!
An attack from behind
By Will LaTulippe
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:07pm
On a woman, and then you bolted after she retaliated with a piece of plastic?
Pussy trifecta right there.
Can't think
By Kathode
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:18pm
of a more inappropriate place to use the "p" word, Will.
It means cat
By Will LaTulippe
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:39pm
Deep breath.
What do cats
By Kathode
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 3:18pm
have to do with being attacked? Nothing.
Well, the phrase "scaredy cat
By RoseMai
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 4:14pm
Well, the phrase "scaredy cat" exists, so...
Didn't say they did
By Will LaTulippe
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 4:58pm
Has everything to do with them being scared off easily.
Two different words altogether
By Bob Leponge
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 10:27pm
"Pussy" meaning scaredy cat, stems from pusillanimous
On the other hand:
(http://www.takeourword.com/pt.html)
Two different words altogether.
misogynist insults, stay classy
By anon
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:05pm
Nothing like using misogynist insults in a discussion about an attack on a woman.
The P word should be treated like the N word
By Scauma
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:51pm
Except no one should use. It's a cringe worthy word, and I say that as someone who generally doesn't give a poop how other people speak.
Be careful....
By Bob Leponge
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 10:30pm
You start ruling words out of bounds without understanding where they come from, and you end up here: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas-city-hall/2...
Or here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_...
This really cracked me up -
By Karen Zgoda
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 4:54pm
This really cracked me up - thanks for the laugh in a rotten situation!
Parts of the East Boston Greenway are gated and locked at night
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:15pm
I'm not sure exactly which sections. The Greenway goes through several jurisdictions (City of Boston, Massport, MBTA) each of which may have its own rules about night-time use.
so?
By MK
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:30pm
this is relevant...why?
Relevance
By Ron Newman
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:48pm
I'm wondering whether the relevant authority (Massport or whoever) may have left a gate open that is usually closed at that hour. That would be especially a problem if only *one* gate to a normally-closed area was left open.
I believe the summer hours
By Karen Zgoda
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 4:56pm
I believe the summer hours for the gates are longer than winter. Plus fate or no gate, if someone wants to do harm, they will find a place to hide.
Greenway gates
By John-W
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:57pm
The gates are supposed to be locked at sundown by Massport police on the parts they patrol - which means the new part connecting Constitution Beach to Neptune Road and then the well-maintained part from Neptune Road to about Porter Street. The end gates are shut on that section (Bremen Street Park) while the middle gates that provide through access from Brooks Street to the Airport MBTA station are open while the T is in service (they have chains blocking the trails that lead down the rest of the closed park).
The last stretch of the Greenway from around Porter Street to Marginal Street is open to the world and maintained/patrolled by the City of Boston. There's access at Gove Street and at the end (Marginal Street). From her description it sounds like she was walking from Bremen Street Park (by the YMCA end) onto the City of Boston part when the altercation occurred. Which is where there have been a few assaults at odd hours (once when I arrived at the Y at 7ish in the morning, an assault had just occurred and there were police everywhere). Disturbed folks, drunks, assholes and combinations of all 3 states in one....watch out for them. She seems to have handled herself well. People at risk for assault should probably carry mace/pepper spray if they're going to be walking around solo (and gte appropriate training, licenses, etc.).
It Has Lights, Security Cameras And Callboxes—Why Close At Dusk?
By Elmer
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:59pm
[sup] ( otherwise, why spend all that money to install and operate lights? )[/sup]
hmmm...
By John-W
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 11:32pm
you ask logical questions of state govt. silly you. I have no idea. But at least at this point of the year that means it's open pretty damned late.
Sure...and...
By Kaz
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:31pm
How about no more violence against anyone? It's not like if she were a man it'd be acceptable to kick him in the backside either. I don't know that her being a woman made this guy more likely to kick her. However, I'm sure that's an assumption people are willing to make.
I'm not even sure why he did it other than he's probably not right in the head...which would lead me to believe that he would have kicked anyone in front of him at the moment because he was in some way out of touch with reality. This just seems more like crazy than misogyny from the limited telling of it we have.
YEAH!
By Rob O
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:22pm
Yes, yes, and ALL LIVES MATTER, right?
I think what the OP was trying to convey was that women are disproportionally attacked, whether by sane or crazy people. Perhaps this particular guy would have also kicked a man; we'll never know but it's kind of besides the point.
If you are talking about domestic violence
By whyaduck
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:48pm
than "yes", you are correct. However, men are still more likely to be murdered than women in the US.
I wasn't clear
By Rob O
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:58pm
Sorry, I wasn't trying to put forward any data of my own. I was guessing at what the OP was thinking and saying.
I know the #1 rule of UHub is don't you dare share any facts in the comment section without at least one citation to a peer-reviewed source.
assuming you are a man..
By anon
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 10:37pm
I can guarantee you, 100%, that when you leave your house alone, you don't have to go through the same mental checklist that a woman does before she leaves her home.
ps, this has nothing to do with murder, but assault in public by a stranger. in that case, who do you think is more vulnerable?
Nice Hijack
By anon
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:34pm
Bro.
I was a woman attacked by a
By Karen Zgoda
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 4:58pm
I was a woman attacked by a man. Hence, no violence against women.
Yep.
By Kaz
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 9:06am
I'm glad you're okay. I would just choose to make people aware in a way that might be more clear.
Keep on
By anon
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 9:16am
Gaslighting.
Oh, it wasn't REALLY an attack ... blah blah blah.
Tell it to 4Chan.
How about
By ElizaLeila
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 12:38pm
We let her tell her story her way?
bro
By anon
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 1:16pm
You have nothing to "choose": it's not your story, it's not about you. Let it go.
Reads like a lame novel
By Scauma
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:02pm
Not passing judgment on the young lady and her account of what happened. Hopefully they catch the sicko who did it. Those first few lines though remind me of a couple bad books I've read before.
Not passing judgment but...
By lbb
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:09pm
...you're gonna make a judgy irrelevant comment.
(you may not be passing judgment, but you're passing something...)
Actually I didn't
By Scauma
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 2:13pm
I didn't pass judgment, I made a statement about something minor. If I disputed her story, that would be judging.
These words... I don't think
By RoseMai
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 4:18pm
These words... I don't think they mean what you think they mean.
Judge: Form an opinion or conclusion about.
Dispute: A disagreement, argument, or debate.
really?
By ElizaLeila
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 12:40pm
Is not judgmental in any way? At all? Are you certain about that?
Next time I get physically
By Karen Zgoda
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 5:01pm
Next time I get physically attackednor sexually assault d, I will try to make it more entertaining for you. For acknowledging my response to your jerky post, I want you to share this news with other women you know in Boston in the hopes that they will be warned of any attackers lurking in parks.
Woman attacked
By CC
Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:51pm
I'm curious where this happened. Was it on the Greenway near one of two blue emergency call boxes? If so, why would she have to walk all the way to Piers Park for MBTA cop? There are us
usually cops by the T station near the Y. It seems like a long way to go to find a cop. I wonder exactly where this happened. I walk my dog along that path several times a week.
It's possible
By ChrisInEastie
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 8:59am
she just used the wrong park name.
The Y is essentially IN Bremen St. Park, which also has a Massport Police substation. If she went from the Y to Piers Park, she would have had to walk all the way down that "gauntlet" that leads to the waterfront, and then 3/4 of the way down Meridian. Also pretty sure Piers Park is gated at night.
Regardless, I hate seeing stuff like this happen, and hope they catch the creep.
Specific place
By karenz
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 12:09am
It happened on the portion of the Greenway between Gove St. and Porter St. On the trail it was between the water fountain and the bridge with the mural on it.
That makes sense
By ChrisInEastie
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 8:53am
Wasn't doubting the account itself, for the record–the initial "near the Y" made me think of Bremen St. Park and the station over there.
Glad to hear nothing worse came of this, and it's great to see what you're doing to get a class going. I'll talk to my GF about signing up.
Thank you for sharing my story Adam
By karenz
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 12:00am
Also, I am helping to collect names to run self-defense class taught by a police officer from A-7 in East Boston. Once we get at least 10 names we can run a class. Please share this link with those who might be interested: https://goo.gl/forms/guyLRrao8Ldw0cxp2
Karen
By ElizaLeila
Fri, 06/16/2017 - 8:12am
Just wanted to say you rock. I'm sorry this happened and I so appreciate how you defended yourself.
If the self defense class is the free RAD class that is put on, I've taken it a couple of times. I'm not planning on signing up, but if you need help get to 10, let me know and I'll do it. I think it's important.
:)
By karenz
Sat, 06/17/2017 - 1:28am
We are up to 26! Keep 'em coming!
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