WBUR reports city officials have granted a permit to white supremacists for a rally on Boston Common on Saturday.
Boston police are urging people not to bring backpacks, sticks or anything that can be used as weapons. Police are planning to have extra officers on hand, as well as barriers to separate demonstrators and counter-demonstrators.
The Dig has details on the two counter-protests being planned.
On Monday, Mayor Walsh vowed to keep the city safe and said he was urging any families thinking of coming into Boston on a nice summer day to continue with their plans. One thing those families won't be able to do, however, is buy an hot dog or soda or try on a T-shirt or ball cap, because the city Parks and Recreation Department has banned all of the vendors who normally ply their wares along the Common's main paths.
In an e-mail to vendors yesterday, a Parks Department manager told the vendors:
Per order of the Boston Police Department and the Boston Parks Commissioner there will be NO VENDING OPERATIONS ALLOWED ON BOSTON COMMON on Saturday, August 19th. No vehicles will be allowed on the Boston Common as of 7:00 a.m. and throughout the day as needed.
I do apologize for any inconvenience this causes, however, public safety is of the utmost importance to the City of Boston. Please reach out to me if you have any questions. As more information becomes available I will update you accordingly.
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Was going to go if there was food.
By anon
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:01pm
Hard pass.
Jewish Vendor
By Cappy
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 9:54am
One of our locations is on the Common. I pay a lot of money to the Boston parks dept to be there and Saturday is a BUSY much needed day.I was told it's a safety issue and I understand that but here's what's playing over and over in my head.
A Jewish small business owner is being forced to shut down his business so that Nazis can have a rally.
Should they really take precedence over us? If there really is a safety issue should they be given a permit at all?
This is really making me angry the more I think about it.
Guess who's coming?
By Cappy
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 1:12pm
Holocaust deniers & White Supremacists of course
http://reverepress.com/news/boston-approves-permit...
The government can't regulate
By anon
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 4:49pm
The government can't regulate freedom of expression. So if someone wants to have a rally, it can't be stopped. But the government can regulate commerce, so if they think there's going to be a safety issue somewhere, they can move or shut down commerce at that location.
Really, anyone who wants can
By anon
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 7:14pm
Really, anyone who wants can hold a really in Boston common? Nobody is ever denied permit?
Because if the City ever denied a permit for a rally
By roadman
Fri, 08/18/2017 - 7:58pm
on the Common - as opposed to requiring the petitioning group to change the date or agree to specific conditions, they would have to have a truly compelling reason (i.e. one that would stand up in court) for doing so. Now, I'm an engineer, not a lawyer. However, IMO, in this case, just because the majority of thinking people are against what this rally stands for, or the fact certain businesses would be inconvenienced, sadly, wouldn't justify the City denying a permit. for the event.
Remember that we live in a country where any adverse action by the government, even a perceived action that may be justified for all sorts of reasons, automatically triggers legal action - especially when it involves Constitutional rights (in this case free speech). If the City had outright denied the permit for this rally, there's almost no doubt would be facing lawsuits by both neo-Nazi groups AND the ACLU. Not sure I'd want to be involved in that fight.
no subject
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:02pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLSOzcEQjiE[/youtube]
Vamos!
By OriginalPatPayaso
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 9:03pm
Por la Paz!
urging?
By anon
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 9:35pm
Boston police are urging people not to bring backpacks, sticks or anything that can be used as weapons.
50 to 1
By anon²
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:06pm
Let do this folks.
Our republic . . . if we can keep it.
This sucks
By BostonDog
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:38pm
If I can't buy a Harvard sweatshirt and some novelty Boston Baked Beans on the Common, what's the point? /s
Don't Worry
By Cappy
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 9:55am
You can still get your sweatshirt in DTX.
At last count
By erik g
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:05pm
the protest had 150 people planning to attend. That was before most of the high-profile Nazis fled with their tails between their legs. The counter-protest currently has ten thousand planning to attend.
See you on the Common, fascists! Hope you're not dumb enough to try the same stunts you tried in Virginia.
As always
By MostlyHarmless
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:16pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxd8ml-n5NE[/youtube]
No excuses please
By Stephen Bickerton Sr
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 8:49am
Couldn't understand them. BUT, did it have anything to do with putting pigs (cops)in a blanket that I've heard from others?
Free speech is free speech.
By Good
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:17pm
Free speech is free speech.
And, speaking as a concerned ally: Careful, counterprotestors, lest YOU look like the aggressors.
Oooohhh
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:06pm
Please tell us about your experience with such things, huh?
#Protip
By Ari O
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:14pm
Nazis are the aggressors.
Don't give them what they want
By BostonDog
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:35pm
Love Trumps Hate. The president and his supporters would like to see nothing more then violence at these events so they can spin the "alt-left" violence bogus narrative. Don't give in. Counter protesters should be peaceful and calm. There will be plenty of cops on hand who would love to drag the Supremacists to jail if they get out of line so let the police do their job.
The best images are of a tiny group of spoiled brats in a huge sea of peaceful counter protesters who show no fear nor aggravation.
Counterpoint
By erik g
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 8:34am
On the Propriety of Punching Nazis
You speak as if people don't know this
By lbb
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 10:27am
You speak as if you think people don't know this, or as if counterdemonstrators are likely to fly off the handle and simply start punching Nazis. What's your experience in these matters, exactly?
It isn't hate
By anon
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 10:41am
Punching Nazis is Heritage.
My grandpa punched a few in his time - KKKlansmen, too!
Marty is violating my first amendment right to buy a hotdog!
By Nick L
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:10pm
Or something?
First
By BostonDog
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 7:15am
First there was a line at Tatte. And I said nothing.
Then they drove away the food trucks. And I said nothing.
Then Chicken & Rice guys was closed due to food poisoning again.
Finally I was starving and there was no place within 2 blocks to eat.
I think you're speaking of
By Refugee
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 2:40pm
I think you're speaking of your third amendment rights to compensation for the quartering of sausages.
Undoubtedly.
By jonbowen
Fri, 08/18/2017 - 11:11pm
The "counter rioters" will undoubtedly make idiots of themselves.
Action
By BlackKat
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 7:24pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEEZsvSzG-4[/youtube]
Metal Detectors and Security Theater?
By SwirlyGrrl
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:09pm
Is that just for people attending the 4th of July concert and special events, but not for a group known to wear helmets, bring shields, and wave guns and clubs around?
Inquiring minds want to know!
That's actually a good idea
By BlackKat
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:33pm
considering we know that besides the open carrying militia in Charlottesville that the neo-nazis were conceal carrying. See 19:00 in video:
https://news.vice.com/story/vice-news-tonight-full...
I thought Marty stated he would ensure they didn't get a permit?
By BikeWithKids
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:22pm
This is going to be a disaster. We're going to massively outnumber the Nazis. I hope Marty is prepared to have the Nazis arrested quickly when they cross the line, before good people are forced to physically defend themselves.
Not how he put it
By adamg
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:15pm
What he said was he didn't want the racists having their protest, not in Boston and especially not just a week after the Charlottesville attacks. But he also said he recognized the First Amendment, too, and that he couldn't stop them from showing up.
In fact, Evans was hoping they would get a permit, because that way BPD could work with them and keep them (and the counter protesters) out of trouble.
The Neo-Nazi's are coming!
By Westie
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:32pm
Mom's basements and tough guy internet chat rooms across the Commonwealth will be barren all day Saturday!
Quick reminder
By statler
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 8:50pm
to any local folks who might be inclined to join the fellas who are holding the rally. As a rule, they tend not to like Catholics very much, so you may not want to chat about your days at St Mary's or whatever.
eh... you're giving them too
By anon
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 9:06am
eh... you're giving them too much credit. 90% of these yokels don't know enough about their own purported doctrine to know that catholics are also an enemy of the white man. or something like that.
The "Free Speech Rally"
By anon
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 9:22pm
The "Free Speech Rally" warrants a Nazi tag? Shouldn't we be encouraging everyone in Massachusetts to support free speech, even if we disagree with the message?
Have you looked at who the
By ZachAndTired
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:31pm
Have you looked at who the speakers are? This warrants the nazi tag because these people are legitimate neo-nazis. I'll be supporting free speech by voicing mine.
Proud Boys, alt-knight street fighters, and Kyle Chapman
By anon
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 1:03am
Proud Boys, founded by a Canadian guy named Gavin McInnis, has a street-fighting arm called alt-knights, founded by a 41 year old ex-con named Kyle Chapman. Chapman said he was coming to Boston then, after Charlottesville said he wasn't, so I guess we'll see. He was in Boston in May as was McInnis.
Two of alt-knight goals are confrontation and destroying Marxists. They wear helmets, makeshift armor and carry clubs that double as flag poles. Chapman was arrested at a Free Speech rally in Berkeley CA for assault and battery and at the time of his arrest he was carrying a firearm and a hunting knife. He lives in Austin TX
Piss off
By anon²
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:43pm
Fucking shitgabbon Nazi scum.
Naked, hungry, and racist.
By anon
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:12pm
Naked, hungry, and racist.
If only
By anon
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 1:54pm
Then we might better understand their dread fear of being cuckholded.
Why ban food vendors?
By Ron Newman
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:19pm
Plenty of us counterdemontrators would happily patronize them.
When an event already
By anon
Thu, 08/17/2017 - 8:50am
When an event already logistically seems like a nightmare and there's a risk of things turning violent or going wrong, and due to first amendment you can't cut out the largest chaotic elements, it makes sense to control for any possible smaller element.
After a woman got murdered with a car, for example, having people blocking possible exit route with food carts and presenting big targets of tee shirt displays is something the city CAN control for and so is doing so.
I'll be there. Fuck these assholes.
By ZachAndTired
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:19pm
I'll be there. Fuck these assholes.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw0GvsfOAZE[/youtube]
Another word of caution
By Roman
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:22pm
Free speech is not fascism. Conservatism is not fascism. Right-libertarianism is not fascism. Not-liberalism is not fascism and whiteness is not fascism.
Respect that other people may disagree with your ideas and that you may disagree with theirs. Don't let your passions rule you. Don't get into the mode of seeing Nazis around every corner.
We think alike and I find it
By Metoo
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:39pm
We think alike and I find it refreshing!
What about neoconservatism?
By anon
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:45pm
What about neoconservatism?
Piss off
By anon²
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:45pm
This ain't a dog park, put away the dog whistle.
You act like
By anon
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 10:52pm
There wasn't some huge rally in our country recently with people proudly waving Nazi flags.
I don't see Nazis around every corner
By Bob Leponge
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 11:02pm
But when I see people displaying swastikas and chanting "Blood and Soil," I think it's a fair bet that there are Nazis involved.
All the more important
By Roman
Wed, 08/16/2017 - 11:56pm
to be clearheaded about who is and who is not a Nazi.
If you find that everyone who's right of left is branded a Nazi or their fellow traveler, then you're doing it wrong, and all I can say is that the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
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