Tens of thousands of Bostonians braved the heat and humidity today to rally at City Hall Plaza and on Boston Common to support immigrant families, especially the ones locked up and separated under the policies of the Trump administration.
Organizers walked around City Hall Plaza and later the Common with bottles of water for sun-beaten protesters. The speakers' stand was set up in front of the JFK federal building.
This one's for Marco Rubio:
Among those at the rally: US Rep. Joe Kennedy (photo by Molly Lanza):
One of the paths people took from City Hall Plaza to the Common went by the Common carousel:
A Trumpie in jeans, a long-sleeved T-shirt and a Patriots cap took a quick swing through the crowds but was chased back to his conclave of about a half-dozen even more warmly dressed Nazis by a group of protesters yelling slogans such as "No hate, no fear, Nazi scum not welcome here."
Down at their little warren, closer to the Brewer Fountain, the Nazis, looking like some Blue Man Group rejects in heavy clothing, stood around as protesters gathered to scream at them. A pushcart vendor who normally plies his wares right there quickly folded up shop and moved away as the mass of protesters arrived.
The members of the Blue Kid Group were protected by a cordon of Boston bicycle cops who were in turn surrounded by volunteers from the main protest and Veterans for Peace, who formed a ring to keep the protesters and Nazis separate.
One of the Nazis took out a copy of "Win Bigly" and sat for a spell and at least pretended to read the book as protesters continues to scream "Nazis out!" and "Racist, sexist, anti-gay, Nazi bigots go away!" After ten minutes or so, round 1:10, the blue kids signaled to the police they were done.
The cops lined up around them and escorted them up to Beacon Street, as the protesters followed and yelled at them. The police held traffic on Beacon, then directed the balaclava gang down Bowdoin Street - and used their bicycles to form ad-hoc barricades so that the protesters could not follow them.
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No, they don't
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 4:30pm
That's historical perspective right there.
Tell me, what are we to do with children of citizens who are jailed for misdemeanors? Do we not lock them up behind bars? Do we not take their children away for the duration of their sentence?
I don't know how much time you've spent in the system
By Brian Riccio
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 4:36pm
but I don't think DCF is taking kids away from their parents on a humble and locking them up in cages that Betsy Devos' pal can make money from.Yet.
However, I can cite more than a few couples that have been allowed to serve prison sentences separately, usually after the first parent to go in comes out.
That's usually for white people in my experience.
How about
By Michael
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 4:47pm
Not jailing anyone for these misdemeanors? Does that work?
Obviously not
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:03pm
Since past experience indicates that people don't show up for their court dates or do but don't leave if their asylum claim is denied. Oh, and then they also start demanding mass amnesty.
So again: is the value of an enforced border which necessarily means keeping people out outweighed by the value of letting them in? Or put in another way, does the good of letting people in outweigh the bad in letting people in?
Authoritative cite? or is this proof by blatant assertion?
By Jeff F
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:56pm
I've heard the exact opposite from not only Dem pols but from non-aligned public officials - ie, that the vast majority of people applying for asylum do show up for subsequent hearings. Do you have any kind of cite to back your claim to the contrary?
Well of course they do
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 7:02pm
if you include the people who apply for asylum at a port of entry so that they aren't even subject to detention to begin with.
If, however, you restrict your statistics to just the people who hop the fence and say "asylum! asylum!" when apprehended you might find a different number.
Past Experience Shows You're Wrong
By Pete X
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 6:11pm
Here you go, I did your work for you and found ACTUAL past experience, instead of just your unattributed blather. 99% of people released in the Family Case Management Program showed up for their court dates, including 15 who were deported. So what you said is a lie. https://www.vox.com/2018/6/22/17483230/family-sepa...
So, Roman, will retract your l...sorry mis-statement of fact?
Huh?
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 7:00pm
From your link:
So 99 pct of 1600 people showed up for their court dates, all while there is no data on the 350,000 [i]illegals[/i] who weren't in the program, and there is ample evidence of people just plain hopping the fence and disappearing, but that cherry-picked sample of 1600 is supposed to prove my concerns invalid?
Facts, you just can't handle them.
By Pete X
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 6:27pm
It wasn't a cherry picked sample. It was a successful program started for mothers and their children seeking asylum from gang violence that was effective and way cheaper then prisons. Even ICE wanted to continue the program but of course it was shut down by the Trump admin, probably because it worked and wasn't cruel. Facts, they're difficult for you to deal with, aren't they?
First illegal entry is a misdemeanor
By dmcboston
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:19pm
Second illegal entry is a felony.
It's not a question of legality, it's a question of degree.
So, if someone shows up in the desert with a kid, is he/she really their kid? So, tell me, do you support child human trafficking? Got to be able to tell the difference.
Think of the children. Really.
This also sounds like blatant assertion, not fact
By Jeff F
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:55pm
Any authoratative evidence to back up this weird claim? It would take just one/very few instances of this for the Trump administration to be parading the kids around as justification for their policies.
It really does seem like you're making up a story to scare yourself and others about south-of-the-border boogeymen.
(I'm not a "just open all the borders!" type, btw. I do think we need comprehensive immigration reform, with reasonable controls. But I also think a huge part of the current problems would be solved if we required employers to provide a true living wage - seems like most undocumented immigrants are basically acting as a huge pool of wage slaves for bigbiz).
Which weird claim?
By dmcboston
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 6:18pm
The felony v misdemeanor' claim or the 'prove she's your kid' claim?
Both are valid.
" seems like most undocumented immigrants are basically acting as a huge pool of wage slaves for bigbiz)."
You're starting to get it. The whole E verify thing is unpopular among, wait for it...businesses that exploit the illegal labor in this country. Better to issue visas and protect them.
And just to remind everyone
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 8:49pm
E-verify is a website that lets you punch in the contents of your employees' I-9 form (which you're supposed to make them fill out so as to withhold income and payroll taxes) and it tells you if they have work authorization. Nothing more nothing less.
The opposition is because before, the figleaf was that the illegal you picked up from the home depot parking lot gave you a name and SSN, so how were you to know he didn't have work authorization? If E-verify is made mandatory (as it is in some states and nation-wide for many federal contractors), you either have to pay people under the table and be liable for tax evasion or you have to pay wages that Americans will take. Oh the horror.
This talking point has made its way around pretty quickly
By Annon
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 10:30pm
this idea that maybe these kids AREN'T the children of the people crossing the border, because they don't have proper documentation.
I've seen it rolled out here, on Reddit and on FB and Twitter today, so I hope you're getting well paid for this blather.
Do tell
By lbb
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 9:59am
Oh really? Do tell us about this "historical perspective". With data, please.
Two years ago, people calling other living people Nazis in this country was pretty rare. Then we had actual living breathing unrepentant Nazis endorsing a candidate for president, and we had actual living breathing unrepentant Nazis putting on Nuremberg rally reenactments on American soil, and people started talking a whole lot more about Nazis. So please, do give us the benefit of your "historical perspective".
Bad construction there; clearly you meant the second sentence to be "Do we not lock their parents up behind bars?" The answer is that no, for the most part we don't. Apart from immigration violations, only about 5% of those incarcerated are charged with misdemeanor offenses (and in some of those cases, they're actually felony offenses by virtue of being repeat offenders). So much as you'd like to put on your Sheriff Clark badge and be all law-n-ordery, this seems pretty clearly a case of selective enforcement (and that's giving it the most charitable possible interpretation).
Stop being an apologist for a heinous, unconstitutional policy, Roman. Your position stinks out of the gate and it won't age well.
Typical right wing response
By planboston
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 4:29pm
Typical of right wingers to vilify the protesters and ignore the issues at hand.
Most of the protesters believe in the rule of law and in sensible immigration policies. We do not believe in unnecessary cruelty, dehumanizing immigrants, or separating children from their parents. That is what the protest is really about.
It is disingenuous for the GOP to claim to want a rational discussion when they ignore facts. Immigration is actually way down from a decade ago. Obama was tough on immigration. This whole crisis was manufactured by the GOP to wind up their base.
Perhaps they should look into their own family histories, they would probably find immigrants a few generations back.
How about zero generations back?
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 4:34pm
And how about not equating law-abiding people who went through all the procedures and got permission to enter with people hop the fence and claim to have a right to what's on the other side?
Obama was tough to a certain extent, but he also unilaterally decided that he wasn't going to enforce the law in another sense. He dressed it up with a name, got the compliant media to not question it, and somehow that made it OK.
Immigration is not way down. Legal immigration is about the same. Illegal immigration is marginally lower, but still going strong to the tune of about half a million a year. That's still high. For the record, an acceptable number will be composed of fewer than six figures, and all of them will be zeros.
Hey, Roman...
By Brian Riccio
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 4:49pm
Tell you what, why don't you shag your ass over to California and pick some avocados for the hipster toast that they can't seem to find any pure, red blooded Americans to pick.
Then use that rule of law to go after Trump himself who doesn't mind illegals working in his son's winery, or his using of illegal Polish workers on Trump Tower and so on and so on and so on...
Yet again
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:09pm
The argument for uncontrolled immigration is that we need to be importing an underclass of people to do menial labor for us.
Believe it or not, Brian, I find distasteful by itself but what makes it truly repugnant is that you're trying to use that as an argument [i]for[/i] a more humanitarian approach. Importing slaves or wage-slaves or indentured servants is immoral, no matter who does it or why.
If the hipster doofuses who eat their avacado toast while toasting the ghost of Hugo Chavez and using their iPhones to tweet about how cool socialism is have to pay a little more, I'm all for it.
Singapore has a great solution
By Stevil
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:25pm
All seriousness - they bring in lower cost labor for certain jobs - BUT the employer has to post a bond so that if the person breaks the law or tries to disappear into the underground economy (which is hard in Singapore) - they forfeit the bond.
I think something similar would work here - but probably need the employee to post the bond - not the employer. Would put many of the human traffickers out of biz very quickly, we get low cost labor for menial tasks and the immigrants get a safe and controlled immigration/emigration process that doesn't involve being locked in a trailer. Everyone wins.
Too reasonable. So it will never happen.
But, it is reasonable.
By dmcboston
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:50pm
Problem is when you talk to folks that are getting their ox gored. I've talked to people that do not like the H1B visa system, says their getting killed by legal visa holders doing their job for much less.
If there was a visa system for say, apple pickers, where they are here legally and there's [i] no local help available[/i] then it's all good.
Roman (and a lot of others, like me) get some semblance of law at the border and Riccio gets someone to pick his organic avocados.
I'd go further
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 6:35pm
I'd make all guest worker visas an auction, not a lottery like it is now. There can be different classes of lotteried visa, for different skill levels just like there is now, but instead of people gaming the system with lobbying for different fixed quotas of H1B or H2B or whatever for an artificially low price, an auction would solve the "no Americans would do it" problem by raising the cost of importing guest workers up to the point where Americans would do it. You'd still have a fixed number, but you could have a mechanism whereby if the minimum winning bids exceed some prevailing wage, more would open up.
Horse shit.
By dmcboston
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:31pm
"... Immigration is actually way down from a decade ago. Obama was tough on immigration. This whole crisis was manufactured by the GOP to wind up their base. "
The Lightbringer was tough on illegal immigration...he gave them a piece of paper and told them to obey it...and a fourteen year old and a fifteen year old, both in the country in 2014 recently went to jail for a couple of decades.
They were MS13, it was in UHub a week ago. There was some discussion about wether they were DREAMers or DACA. Commenters called them 'neither', so I guess the were just unaccompanied teens looking for the jobs Real Americans won't do. Like chopping people up.
Oh, and the missing word before 'immigrants' is, wait for it...'illegal'.
Obama holds the record for number of deportations in a year
By Dot net
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 10:24am
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/24/re...
"419,384. Number of immigrants deported by U.S. authorities in fiscal year 2012—a record."
This record number of deportations has yet to be broken.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation...
"Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President".
That record still stands.
Oh, and Obama did it by telling ICE and US Attorneys to focus on undocumented immigrants who are criminals.
How well do you suppose ICE and prosecutors do finding criminal immigrants now, when they are overwhelmed w/ detaining and prosecuting any and all irregular border crossers?
“Language: A Key Mechanism of Control"
By bibliotequetress
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 4:55pm
“Language: A Key Mechanism of Control"
You're doing some particularly picky cherrypicking, Roman
No kidding
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:05pm
And where does "No person is illegal" register on the Bibliotequetress Orwell-o-meter?
I think it's a catchy slogan.
By bibliotequetress
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:37pm
.
Indeed
By SwirlyGrrl
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 7:00pm
You are both spewing and soaking in it.
The man who got lucky and wasn't ripped from his mother and whose family was not only NOT arrested for seeking asylum legally (like the people being arrested at the border are) but was given so much to help his family migrate and establish themselves thinks all that magically happened because he was super special and all could see the special light of god streaming from his empty head.
Now Mr. DAMMIT I'M SPECIAL seems to be feeling a little insecure about being lucky because that makes him NOT special.
Uh huh.
The harder you work
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 7:31pm
the more lucky you are.
Do you know why I wasn't "ripped from my mother," Swirly? It's not luck, it's not fate, it's a simple distinction. Rather than hopping the fence and demanding shit, we applied for entry by presenting ourselves to the US embassy and waited to receive permission before we bought our plane tickets. And when we got off the plane, we presented our entry visa to customs and proceeded to apply for permanent residency and then citizenship once we were allowed through.
We all understood this permission to enter, and permission to reside, and even the granting of citizenship were discretionary, and we were all very grateful for receiving it.
What we did not do was show up in the middle of the West Texas and demand free shit. That's not luck. That's the deliberate exercise of good manners and deliberate demonstration from day zero of respect for the laws of our adoptive country.
.... you can't apply for
By Ian D Osmond
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 2:26pm
.... you can't apply for asylum at an embassy. You can only apply at a port of entry. So IF your story is true, you weren't asylum seekers, and your situation isn't relevant to the discussion at hand.
My grandfather had to
By Omri
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 2:43pm
My grandfather had to illegally cross several borders to stay alive in 1938. If he'd been a virtuous man like your family members, he'd have died in Terezin or Oswiecim. Instead, he committed multiple counts of felony refusal to die.
(And got himself trafficked by Zionists. He was 12)
These asylum seekers HAVE BEEN SHOWING UP AT PORTS OF ENTRY AND REQUESTING ASYLUM.
The BCP has simply, and illegaly, been ignoring them. Since Matamoros and Ciudad Juarez are not safe places to be sleeping on the streets waiting for the BCP to actually follow the law, they've been crossing elsewhere.
This is entrapment. The government is breaking the law in order to force these people to do so, in order to have a convenient pretext to criminimalize them and demonize them. So don't get self-righteous.
Our Attorney General, Mr.
By Omri
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 8:49pm
Our Attorney General, Mr. Sessions, keeps reminding us how intent he is on enforcing the law.
The funny thing is he isn't so intent on enforcing the law against perjury, otherwise he would be prosecuting himself for the multiple times he lied to the Senate under oath during hte confirnation process.
But yes, it's so important to traumatize toddlers over a misdemeanor count that asylum seekrrs are specifically entrapped into commiting.
I asked my lawyer friend
By Will LaTulippe
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 11:40pm
What has to be done to get Jeff Sessions disbarred. He told me "it has to be a client who brings a grievance."
So who's the client when he commits perjury as a Senator seeking to become an AG? The American taxpayer, right? What mechanisms are in place to stop this non-lawyer from being the Attorney General of the United States? Why did people vote for this entire piece of trash set of circumstances?
The blue folks you’re
By anon
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 5:36pm
The blue folks you’re describing reek of false flag. Any evidence they’re legit nazis?
One of them was reading Win Bigly by Scott Adams
By adamg
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 10:58pm
I don't think anybody else would have the stomach for that.
Ooh ooh, I know this one.
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 11:04pm
Another one was reading Ayn Rand, and a third one was reading Jordan Peterson while the forth one was handing our poorly Xeroxed copies of James Damore's memo while the fifth one vigorously paging through his copy of Mein Kampf?
Do I get the bingo?
"Do I get the bingo"
By boo_urns
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 5:37pm
...who says that? Every tried and true American I know would ask the phrase, "did I get bingo?"
That's a little suspicious...
It sounds better
By Sock_Puppet
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 5:58pm
In the original Russian.
Not Klingon?
By Roman
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 6:51pm
Expand your mind man.
Maybe this will help Roman
By lbb
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 10:04am
Ooooooh, that's a bingo!
the border is important
By Luke Warm
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 9:14pm
I am probably a "lefty" but I don't think that I think the border should be completely open.
We have a bigger problem, though, and any conservative trying to feign reasonable about DT at this point is just showing a psychopathic degree of compartmentalization. The guy is out of his fucking mind, the guy's campaign worked with the Russians--that part is already in on Manafort--the guy undermines democracy and undermines elections.
If you are not looking at THAT fucking problem then you are out of your fucking mind.
All of the other issues are also important--and anyone on the right can certainly logically have a different opinion--
But where even good conservatives are beginning to look irrevocably brain-maggot-batshit is in their ability to miss the major Constituional crisis we are heading for in Nov....or rather, by Nov. I guess we are in it already--it will reach a fever pitch.
Rhymes with rake fuse
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 11:15pm
First of all, compartmentalization isn't psychopathic, it is a necessary part of life. Third world orphans are, in fact, dying of starvation every day while we're getting worked up over the finer points of Constitutional law. That requires compartmentalization.
Second of all, it's looking more and more like the "Trump worked with Russia" thing was largely manufactured by the media and the prior administration from the kernel of truth that the Russians were screwing with us (the Dems finally rediscovered that the Russians are the bad guys...at least that's a positive).
Third of all, even if it were all true...it would have exactly nothing to do with border enforcement. See my statement above about compartmentalization being a necessary part of life.
Fourth of all...and most important...this is a media-manufactured crisis as well. The detention centers have been there for years and the cages were on Obama's watch...but he was the good guy so the media kept quiet. The protests are astroturfed and happened now as opposed to last month for no reason other than to distract from the apparently good news in Korea. And lookie here...the Democratic party is fielding Congressional candidates that are open communists--sorry "Democratic Socialists"---but their long march toward making this place Venezuela North needs to be papered over with a trendy cause...and what's trendier than being against bad things happening to kids (never mind the circumstances...just listen to that whaling child!!!!1!).
So no. Sorry. Not buying any of it, and neither should you. Trump is a jackass, but a jackass is what's necessary at the southern border. The big-hearted approach has been tried for thirty years and it has yielded poor results.
case in point
By Luke Warm
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 7:45am
It is largely manufactured by the media? There are not grand juries impaneled? Are you fucking kidding me? Manafort worked for free? NO, he actually was looking to recoup 10 million. If you think Trump didn't okay the collusion you are even more fucking crazy.
Roman has the brain maggot. It is not more complicate than that. Like Ben Shapiro. Maybe he is Ben Shapiro.
Yes a grand jury is empanelled
By Roman
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 5:03pm
Based on what's looking more and more like manufactured evidence with reporting of bits and pieces of that manufactured evidence that were leaked to the media used as "corroboration." If anyone had anything real, that wouldn't have been necessary.
Hey Roman
By lbb
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 10:07am
Roman, you have gone full-on Infowars. Are you ready for the 4th? I sure am!
Warren at rally: Replace ICE
By adamg
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 9:18pm
WBZ reports.
Replace with
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 11:20pm
FIIRE!
Federal Illegal Immigrant Roundup and Eviction!
The exclamation point would be part of the agency name.
But in all seriousness, this is why I voted against that woman six years ago and why I will be voting against her this year. Replace/redirect/defund/whatever is either moving the deckchairs while staying the course (stupid pandering, not to be rewarded) or deliberate obstruction of border and immigration law enforcement (also stupid pandering, but also dangerous in the short and long term for reasons I've described in my other posts).
Well, also...
By lbb
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 10:08am
...she drives you crazy because she's not in a kitchen somewhere.
You've got us all figured out
By Roman
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 6:47pm
haven't you?
Well congratulations! You're privy to a secret few others have been able to divine. We like our women subservient to the point of caricature, our ethnic minorities out of sight, our firearms deadly-accurate [i]and[/i] more liable to kill the shooter than hit the target, especially when handled properly and aimed carefully. Oh, and we love private property so much, we regularly evict ourselves from our own homes when we run out* of tenants to kick out of our slums!
*Because they're all illegals and we had them deported!! Hahahaha. We also dug up the graves of our own immigrant ancestors and deported them posthumously for good measure!
Also, the shovels we used were made by third-world orphans legally owned by multi-national corporations with majority stakes held by the Koch brothers. And the ships that delievered them here were powered by good old Appalachian coal laundered by the North Koreans at Sakhalin to look like it came from Russia!
Take your meds, Roman
By lbb
Tue, 07/03/2018 - 7:56am
You're nothing but an Eliza bot.
March to South Bay
By adamg
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 9:47pm
The Globe reports that after the Common protest, several hundred people marched to the South Bay jail, where the Suffolk County Sheriff's Department rents cells to ICE. Scott Eisen reports some protesters were arrested.
Helping Donald Trump get re-elected...
By jonbowen
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 10:33pm
The protestors are driving away the Democratic base...
https://twitter.com/stewardshipamer/status/1013102...
What about Americans?
Can you find somebody other than a rightwinger who says that?
By adamg
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 11:01pm
You know, the guy links to his own Web site from his Twitter page; it's not like he's hiding who he is - you'd also realize that from scrolling further down his Twitter feed.
Well, there's a polls showing support for strong enforcement
By Roman
Sat, 06/30/2018 - 11:28pm
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol...
And polls showing that most people don't blame ICE for enforcing the law:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol...
So one would infer that this would not transfer into support for rearranging the deckchairs on the USS ICE or ramming her into an iceberg on purpose.
Gee....Rasmussen....
By Brian Riccio
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 9:28am
A company whose polling consists of calling anyone who has a landline and actually opens Val-Paks and loves the Lawrence Welk reruns on PBS Saturday nights.
And I bet you the screen out pot smokers too
By Roman
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 11:43am
But be honest Brian. If they called, you'd talk their ear off.
No, I have..
By Brian Riccio
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 12:19pm
a talk show for that. You know, one where people can put a face to my posts and actually call me and debate me instead of hiding behind screen names and making childish insults.
Yet none of you ever do...
Yeah, you're exactly the person
By Roman
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 5:05pm
I'd give away my real name or phone number to. Nothing you've ever said here makes me question your ability to make a distinction between "sticks and stones" and "words." Not one thing.
Hey, Roman...
By Brian Riccio
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 7:45pm
Have a nice day.
Yes. Me...
By jonbowen
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 10:41pm
I’m libertarian...
Psst.
By boo_urns
Tue, 07/03/2018 - 12:01pm
Implied in "libertarian" as it's popularly known in the US is "[right] libertarianism." And, yes, there is such a thing as left-libertarianism. It's just SpOoKy to conservatives in the US because it looks a lot more like socialism (think in the style of worker owned companies, i.e. workers owning/controlling the means of production. You know, what socialism was originally defined as).
So, uh, yeah, you fit right in with Adam's question, if he was asking rhetorically.
Lost in all the comments..
By formerlyTheSoBo...
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 10:24am
...and people can't figure out why I root against the Patriots. Thank god the Eagles beat them!!
For those that are not into sportsball...Kraft (patriots owner) and Tom Brady (patriots footballer) support donald trump.
Right. Because one asshole
By dotratfromwayback
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 5:00pm
Right. Because one asshole who wears a Patriots cap defines all Patriots fans. Once again you prove you are just a a self serving fraud who regularly posts about how much better you are than everyone else. You don't give a shit about immigrants, race issues or anything other then yourself. Grow up and pull your head out of your ass.
no. i didn't say that.
By formerlyTheSoBo...
Sun, 07/01/2018 - 10:29pm
nope. never said that.
it does take a certain type of person to look passed the owner and star player supporting a fascist and then still support the team.
so if you wear patriots gear and you say you support immigrants and racial equality...you are a hypocrite or in your words....a fraud.
- a bostonian who keeps it 100.
You are a fraud with every word you say.
By Pete Nice
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 8:37am
Jerkface.
You're as pathetic as Roman
By lbb
Mon, 07/02/2018 - 10:10am
So, out of all the human tragedy of children being separated from their parents and put into cages, and out of all the crucial moment in American history that this is...all you got out of it was some dud ammunition to lob at a Boston sports team?
I want to put you and Roman on a raft in the Charles and charge for views. it'd be hilarious.
facts wrong in article
By yoduhh
Mon, 07/09/2018 - 12:36am
the 5 from boston free speech AREN'T nazis. apparently anyone who disagrees with the anti government protesters are nazis. but they aren't
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