CommonWealth reports Massport thinks the answer to growing auto congestion at Logan is to do something about the estimated 15 million rides Uber and Lyft riders now take to the airport - including increasing the ride-share surcharge from $3.25 for pick ups to $5 for both pick ups and drop offs. Massport also wants to eliminate 1,000 parking spaces on the first floor of the central garage to make way for a new centralized area for ride-share drivers to go when they're hailed or dropping off.
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What would be more fair would
By J
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 2:50pm
What would be more fair would be to have a toll booth (ie, ezpass) at the airport entrance. Every car who drives in pays depending on how long theyre on property. Remove the individual toll booths at each garage.
This is done at multiple airports around the world
That's a good idea
By OriginallyFromD...
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 5:33pm
that'd likely be met with a lot of push back. Airport workers who drive to work, folks picking up other folks from the airport...yikes!
They are also causing
By J
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 7:10pm
They are also causing congestion
Easy Enough Fixes
By ChrisInEastie
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 7:26pm
For the folks picking people up: That's no different than using any other car service and I see no problem with the extra toll.
For the people working at the airport: It would be pretty easy to issue employee transponders that charge a reduced to free rate, a la what we get as Eastie residents. That said, I don't get to drive to work for free either but sometimes make the decision to drive in anyway, that is what it is.
Waltz (Better Than Fines)
By OriginallyFromD...
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 7:31pm
it could be argued that such airport taxes/fines would disproportionately affect those with mobility impairments/disabilities.
Yes, but all tolls affect disabled people more
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 9:48am
I would be open to a reduced electronic toll for people with placards.
App Drivers would just exit
By Rob
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 3:07am
App Drivers would just exit airport, kill time on local streets, cause congestion, then come back for a hail.
Congestion
By lbb
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 9:32am
If the goal is to alleviate congestion, does it matter how long they stayed there?
It would be fair if you proportionately reduced the tunnel toll.
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 9:50am
It would encourage public transportation.
Will taxis also be relocated?
By JEred
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:07pm
Asking for a friend (interested in institutional corruption).
Why do people always think
By anon
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 5:37pm
Why do people always think the city or state favors the taxi industry?! They do not! We got screwed big time by everyone and now the Pandora's Box has been opened. Crime, traffic, poverty wages, and reduced public transit usage are just a few of the symptoms of the disease of the Uber scourge.
Uber and Lyft spend record amounts lobbying for bad legislation to legalize their gypsy cab services. They are the ones adding to the corruption in the system, not cabbies who invested in their futures, and the future of Boston, only for billions in equity (for their retirements) to be wiped out by an app.
God forbid working class (especially immigrants and PoC) people try to secure a spot in the middle class!
If Massport allows cabs to pick up and drop off directly at terminals, customers will still choose Uber and Lyft because they've bought into the narrative of "innovation and technology," when it's really just a big "screw you" to working people.
"gypsy cab"
By Matthew Miller
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 12:58am
I have had gypsy cab drivers attempt to scam me — and I've had actual official cab drivers do it *for sure*, by driving definitely sub-optimal routes and with the classic "credit card reader isn't working I need cash" routine.
There are plenty of things awful about Lyft and Uber, but I've never once had these things happen.
I'm sure it's a tiny majority of drivers, but it's happened to me enough that when I'm traveling home from a long trip, I just want to be taken to my door and not have to worry.
oh please
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 10:04am
sub optimal routes? what did it cost, an extra $5? And the last time a cab said, my card reader is broken, I said take me back to the stand then. He found an old fashion ditto slip, and rubbed my card with the side of his pen. I signed it and it worked fine. don't bash a whole industry because you can't stick up for yourself.
I don't sympathize with medallion as a commodity damage. The value was artificially created by scarcity and barred many qualified drivers from getting full value for their work. The real money was leasing out the medallion car 24/7, not driving it yourself. The industry didn't have the foresight to fix that, and they deserve to lose.
But the current problem is similar. These apps make very little investment compared to the people that do all the work. The bonuses and over payments to the drivers seem generous but they won't share their billions when the companies go public. The amount of cars on the street increase and we have to do something to protect ourselves.
That's so nice
By anon
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 10:15am
So nice that you never got screamed at, threatened with the cops and dumped from a cab over it.
wouldn't the cops be helpful?
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 10:51am
It's illegal to refuse credit cards.
Yeah, but...
By fungwah
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 11:09am
that's not a fight most want to have at 2 AM at the end of a long trip. Which is why we switched to the service that doesn't try to pull that shit and require you to "stick up for yourself" just to pay for the services you want.
perspective
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 11:16am
Look, I am not saying this is ok, but it is not why the taxi industry failed. Overall, your anecdotes are just self reinforcing bs. There are plenty of uber and lyft drivers acting like assholes. You choose rideshares because they are cheaper, and more plentiful. It takes an hour to get a cab to my house in Dorchester. I was taking a bus to the airport before rideshares.
But these low prices and abundant amount of drivers are a stock scam that is harming our city.
My own experiences are self-reinforcing?
By fungwah
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 12:57pm
"You only hate taxis because you had bad experiences with them!" - well, duh? Are you trying to argue that it's something in my behavior that caused taxi drivers to try to refuse to drive me to specific locations they didn't want to go to (within their service area), try to add additional riders without my consent, or pretend that their credit card machines were broken?
Honestly, I choose rideshares because they're easier and more convenient, and the drivers don't try to scam me. I'd still take them even if they cost far more than a taxi ride for those reasons alone.
In the rare case that a Uber/Lyft driver is an asshole, I have their name, picture, and license saved on my phone automatically and it takes a couple minutes to submit a report to Uber and get a refund for my trip. Good luck trying that with a taxi service.
I agree there's a lot of issues with Uber/Lyft/etc, but acting like people are only choosing them because of cost and ignoring the many issues people had with taxi services seems pretty myopic. They're definitely competing on price (and we'll see how long that lasts) but there's also a pretty big difference in service as well.
listen to yourself
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 1:20pm
More available = cheaper
And when have they ever cost more? If it has never happened, you can't honestly make that assertion.
This fake morality makes you look very insecure. How much do you have to justify this choice? Why isn't cheaper enough of a good reason? Why do you have to exaggerate? Would it be fair to point out that less cab drivers are convicted of rape than uber and lyft drivers?
I use both uber and lyft, because I have abstract thought. I understand that ride shares services are causing problems that need to be addressed through policy and law. I also value my self worth enough to know that to decide that i don't need to pay more or wait longer because the city won't control the situation. I don't blame drivers for these problems. And I realize that this cheap and easy ride is ending soon.
Convenience isn't just availabilty
By fungwah
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 1:40pm
How about being easily able to order a ride to pick you up where you are and bring you to where you want to go, without having to argue with the driver about the destination? How about knowing that you'll be able to pay with a credit card? How about knowing that you have the driver's info saved and stored should you need to make a report? These are all conveniences that have nothing to do with price or availability, and they're all things the taxi industry could do today but still doesn't bother with.
Wow, you must be fun to make long-term plans with. "I can't tell you if I'd still live in this apartment if the landlord raises the rent - after all, it hasn't happened yet!" It's pretty easy to recognize when you value a good or service at more than it costs you.
Taxis failed
By Bobp
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 2:36pm
Because Uber and Lyft were allowed to illegally steal their business.
The flaunted the law and were allowed to and crashed the cab industry.
now Uber and Lyft can do as they please squeezing driver. in effect those driving for Uber and Lyft has the same issues as can drivers have always had.
add in that the ride share traffic and driving habits have multiplied the traffic problems.
Great deal for no one really
And if you have a bad taxi ride, sorry but you can cal the hackney division and they will do something.
Ever call the Hackney Division?
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 6:21pm
They put the HACK in HACKNEY honey.
They are a BIG REASON that people ditched cabs - they didn't do jack fucking shit for bad service and loved to find ways to demean and harass complainants who were trying to file complaints.
Sounds like you may have been one of them - your apologism for the bullshit people went through just trying to get home and get around is legion on this site.
So is your denial of the SEVERE problems many had with our lovely collapsing, stinky, unsafe, illegally operating cab system.
Um. No.
By Lecil
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 6:13pm
Actually, when I started using Uber they were all black cars, and they were actually *more* expensive than taxis.
But they showed up when called. It was possible to get one in a reasonable amount of time. The cars were clean, and didn't leave me feeling like I was taking my life in my hands by riding in it because of the clear lack of maintenance. The driver never hit on me. I never had to argue with them about using a credit card.
Sure, the fact that they are also NOW generally cheaper than taxis (but not always, remember that ride shares due fairly often surge price) is nice, but it low on my list of why they are *vastly* better than taxis.
The taxi industry is failing because of corruption and crappy service.
So you're arguing we should
By RoseMai
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 11:14am
So you're arguing we should still use cabs because we'll only have to pay a little extra if they go a longer way/we sit in traffic longer than expected, and if they try to force us to pay in cash we can refuse until a solution is found, and if something goes wrong we can just call the cops for help?
No, thanks. I can just take a Lyft instead, where it's a guaranteed rate, has electronic payment guaranteed, and I know the person's name and car make/model/license plate up front and can share my route with friends/family for safety.
I'm not saying there aren't issues with ride shares, but I don't understand why people defend cabs. They're worse in basically every way.
I am not defending cabs.
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 11:19am
I am saying that rideshares are the same as cabs, just cheaper. And that too many cars on the street is a problem that we are paying for at the expanse of pump and dump stock scam that is lyft and uber.
If only this site had graphic organizers, haha
By OriginallyFromD...
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 3:29pm
and lemme preface this by noting that these are my ****personal experiences/views on cabs****
PROS of Cabs
1.) Licensed cabs in Boston are governed by the Boston Police Hackney Carriage Units
2) There are vouchers available to use in for Boston licensed cabs
3) Boston cabs who have experience driving/navigating in the area, especially weird-ass-one-way-cow-path streets in Boston
BONUS POINTS FOR GYPSY CABS: They're willing to do shorter trips (especially helpful for parents shopping with younger children and hella bags of groceries) from South Bay Shopping Center and Purity Supreme (RIP)
CONS of Cabs
1) The drivers often act like creeps, asking if female passengers about their dating life/marital status, being really awkward and creeping about noting where the passenger lives upon drop-off. Consequently, when I'm riding in a cab or using a ride share service: I note right away that I'm "going to my boyfriend's house" (usually squashes any uncomfortable conversation).
2) Some of them won't go to Dorchester, claiming that it's "too far" (um, that's literally your fucking job tho?). By "too far" they mean "too scary."
3) Drivers take circular-ass routes in Boston to drive up the fair. I don't drive but I grew up in Boston. Quoth Judge Judy: don't spit on my cupcake and tell me it's raining!
PROS of Ride Shares
1) Very easy to use. Even without having the app on a phone, I can share Lyfts and Ubers with friends by reimbursing my friends in cash.
2) Often cheaper than cabs; they offer promo codes and discounts (Uber has giftcards that can be purchased)
3) The interior of the ride share vehicles often smell really, really good.
CONS of Ride Shares
1) Some drivers are too thirsty for "5 stars" and try too hard to chat up the passenger, ask invasive questions, fiddling with the radio. DRIVE THE DAMN CAR. KEEP YOUR FRIGGIN EYES ON THE ROAD. I'm more likely to give 5 stars to a driver who (in the sage words of Rihanna) shuts up and drives.
2) Uber at least uses some dubious screening for their drivers. For as sluggish and frustrating as the MBTA is: I've never had to worry about a T operator assaulting me or, you know, going on a shooting spree while picking up Uber fares.
3) Ride share companies are able to weasel out of providing worker protections for their drivers by claiming that the companies are "tech companies."
BONUS: Ride shares are very hit-or-miss when transporting disabled passengers. Senior citizens sometimes have a difficult time understanding how to use the Uber/Lyft apps.
Another CON of both ride shares and cabs is that sometimes the driver-passenger language barrier results in the driver getting lost, going the wrong way, etc.
Being a non-driver has helped me stay in shape and use more green-friendly forms of transportation (riding a bike, skateboarding, walking) sooo like Be Your Own Pet says:
The feeling that you're not
By anon
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 12:26pm
The feeling that you're not going to get scammed is worth much more than getting taken for a ride for an extra $5... or getting a crazy cabbie who gives no f@cks because there's no retribution. I'll take an app-enabled service any day, even if it's a few bucks more expensive.
Not gonna have this
By anon
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 5:55am
Not gonna have this conversation without talking about people having a monopoly on medallions.
People use Uber and Lyft
By bosguy22
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 8:20am
Not because they bought into "innovation and technology", but because they're generally cleaner, easier, more pleasant rides than taxis.
Taxis
By Frankie
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:19pm
So make people using ride share make even further than they have to now? But taxis are at the terminal?
And the article admits that cell service is bad in the garage so that will make TNC harder.
Reducing the cost on AirLogan makes so much sense but penalizing TNC is tricky.
Maybe have cabs in the same location--if I see a 15 minute wait for TNC but there is an available cab maybe I'll try one.
WTF is TNC?
By Acronym Challenged
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 5:20pm
That's No Cab?
Transportation Network
By Kevin H
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 8:18am
Transportation Network Company (TNC) TNC is a new term being used by government entities to refer to rideshare companies such as Uber and Lyft.
The whole "share" terminology is deliberately misleading
By Bob Leponge
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 1:22pm
Uber and Lyft are not ride "sharing" services, they are livery dispatch services. Each does offer a share the ride option, but that is not their primary business.
AirBnB is not a "sharing" service, it is short term housing rental service.
Pick ups and drop offs
By zetag
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:33pm
Obviously they can set a single pick up location but how do they plan on enforcing the drop off location?
Via the TNC companies who
By Muerl
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 11:13am
Via the TNC companies who track where people get off.
If they penalize the drivers for dropping people off elsewhere then they will follow the rules.
I can understand moving
By anon
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:28pm
I can understand moving pickups, since they always involve some waiting around by one or both parties, and searching for the right car.
But dropoffs? Why? It takes just a second of curb time, and is a major convenience to be delivered to the door when you're carrying luggage.
Also, I'll point out once again that the easiest thing Massport can do to boost non-car travel to the airport is FIX THE DAMN BLUE LINE SHUTTLES! They're just HORRIBLE now that they divert to the Rental Car Center. As long as it's not the middle of the night, there's enough passenger traffic for separate routes, so Blue Line passengers don't have to waste 10-15 minutes riding out of their way to a really slow stop at the RCC.
This is true
By Ari O
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:25pm
The hack right now is to take the 88 bus from the Airport Station, especially for Terminals A and B since it skips the airport station.
If they were to up the frequency on the 88 to every 4-5 minutes (from every 8) and then advertise it as the shuttle from the T direct to the terminals, it would be even better and wouldn't cost them much. There's more to it than this, but really not that much more.
88 Bus to the airport?
By Pref Anon
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 12:12pm
The 88 bus I know goes from Lechmere to Arlington Center via Davis.
Massport 88, not MBTA 88
By ckd
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 6:32pm
http://massport.com/logan-airport/to-from-logan/tr...
However, that page says the 88 doesn't serve the T station.
I have the same complaint
By anon
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 8:42pm
I have the same complaint everytime the MBTA runs shuttles across the Longfellow for Red Line work, or for under the harbor for Blue Line work.
On the Red Line, MBTA could easily run half the shuttles to Government Center, with a U-turn on Cambridge Street, and go back and forth to Kendall, skipping Park Street and the long loop around the Public Garden.
On the Blue Line, MBTA could easily run half the shuttles directly between State Street and Airport, skipping Aquarium and Maverick and the slow crawl through the streets of East Boston.
I have no idea why they never try to coordinate it that way.
Also, I'll point out once
By anon
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 10:19am
RECLAIM THE RAMP. Silver Line detour is ABSURD waste of time.
Also, I take a lot of early flights - first flights out - there's literally no public transportation option! Granted, at 4-5 am there's not much congestion, but Uber and Lyft have exploded because there's a need. The state needs to start thinking with a "Build it and they will come" mindset, not just punishing people into using methods that don't functionally solve their problems.
Also, if you're flying with several large suitcases, transit is a N I G H T M A R E. Nothing like struggling to get my trade show luggage up and down from a silver line bus packed to the gills with those narrow ass aisles.
A "solution" that creates another huge problem
By anon
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:37pm
If all of those rides are being picked up in the same location, that's just going to back traffic up all at one spot instead of it being spread throughout all the terminals. Tolls and fees, yes. All this nonsense around limited pickup and drop off locations... whether at Logan or elsewhere in Boston... is nonsense and counter to the entire reason these services exist and are used so heavily: door-to-door.
And for folks with mobility issues?
By Lecil
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:39pm
Are they going to have a crew standing by in the parking garage with wheelchairs?
Somehow I doubt it.
5 am Flight
By anon
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:48pm
No transit? NO SURCHARGE
Ditto for anything that lands after 11pm (since luggage takes time, too).
The answer is NOT surcharges. The answer is 24 HOUR TRANSIT
This is a good take
By Ari O
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:23pm
But another solution: 24 hour Massport shuttle from Logan to South Station and Back Bay. Take the current Back Bay shuttle and run it every 20-30 minutes all night from Logan to Boston. From there it's a lot cheaper to get a cab/ridehail, and also easier to get a bicycle and ride it without having to go amphibious. Wouldn't cost more than they're already planning.
The answer is 24-hour transit
By Rob
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 3:00am
We have that.
"Your sign says "Open 24 Hours.""
"Well, not in a row."
Jeff Foxworthy
24 hour service....
By Michael Kerpan
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 1:36pm
Oh dear, I can't wait THAT long....
Fees
By cybah
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 3:55pm
So we can expect these fees to be funneled into the MBTA for transit improvements?
Nah.. they'll go into Massport's coffers... *eye roll* like MP needs any more money..
Someone has to fund the pensions...
By Friartuck
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:05pm
Guess it will be us...
Just stop
By cybah
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:18pm
Once again someone has no clue how this is funded. *smh*
Just stop with this nonsense until you're ready to tell me your salary so I can make fun of it too and say you "make too much"
Ugh...
By Kaz
Sat, 03/23/2019 - 3:09pm
That's from a scarcity mindset.
Most people want to be able to retired nicely.
If I recall correctly
By Waquiot
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 5:29pm
Massport fees involving the airport have to stay with airport opertations, per federal regulations. That's part of the issue with their subsidy of the Silver Line route to the airport. There are better versed commenters here that will correct me, and they will probably be right, but the glitch does not reside with Massport entirely.
Hey now
By ChrisInEastie
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 7:29pm
the Maverick gates are broken pretty much every other week, they clearly need the extra funds to keep up!
/snark
Why not fees for all vehicles
By anon
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:10pm
Why not fees for all vehicles yat enter the airport? Does having a friend with a car who can drive you to the airport take up less space than a person who pays for uber/lyft? They both add to congestion. It's unfair for Baker/massport to select only some people to pay congestion fees to enter the airport but not others.
This will totally work
By erik g
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:19pm
and has zero chance of just causing Uber/Lyft drivers to say "fuck it" and use the lanes meant for regular passenger pickup at the terminals, because no one's walking to Central Parking to pick up the ride they just hailed 1/3 mile away in Terminal E.
Which is to say, how exactly is MassPort planning to tell ride-sharing cars apart from me picking up grandma at the airport in my own car? Right now they self-identify because it's worth it to gain access to the taxi/bus lanes at terminals. What's their motivation under the new rules?
Uber is illegal in a lot of
By J
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:38pm
Uber is illegal in a lot of places and they enforce it. Easiest way is if the passenger gets off from the back seat and the front is empty. Obviously the driver is being paid.
They also look for the phone on the windshield and of course the stickers and such
So if you're going to the airport you just sit in the front seat
By zetag
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:44pm
I don't drive for uber but have a mount on my dashboard for when I need to use my phone for GPS. Additionally, any attempts to enforce the drop off portion of the trip at the terminals is only going to cause more congestion.
Yes thats how people get
By J
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 5:32pm
Yes thats how people get around it, but it causes additional friction. I was recently in Jordan and our Uber driver asked me to sit and front and also if I could act like his friend when he helped me take the bags out because Uber is illegal there
What did you do to act like
By baustin
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 7:26pm
What did you do to act like his friend?
Uber drivers can only get rides from the idling lot
By Info
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 6:39pm
As of now uber drivers can’t get ride pick ups from the airport unless they are in the uber lot located next to the rental car center. There is a electronic fence that allows the app to know if they are in the lot and from there they receive ride notifications. That’s why there is so much traffic going into the rental car center lot at times. Massport is a bunch of dummies making dummer decisions to constantly fix their dumb ideas.
Time for homework
By Nowy Liberté
Fri, 03/22/2019 - 10:50am
You re in Terminal E just arrived from Frankfort?
You hail your Uber -- it goes to the ground floor of the Central Parking right by the Elevators -- how much walking do you have to do?
The posting says 1/3 mile -- let's look at the route:
The same works for Delta Terminal A except from the other side
From Terminal C you either
Terminal B does require some walking as you need to get to Terminal A via moving walkways but then you need to walk the length of Terminal A to the elevators
However, by setting up a 2nd Uber / Lyft pick-up point inside Central Parking located on the side facing terminal C halfway between the elevators for the walkway to C and the walkways to B all of the connections would be under a roof with moving walkways and elevators doing most of the moving
Smells
By anon²
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 4:37pm
Smells like its more about appropriating more revenue for Massport than doing a damn thing about traffic.
Its also fresh after they plopped down that behemoth "transportation hub" in the seaport which is just a giant parking garage housing thousands of spots for cars.
That Seaport "transportation
By Kinopio
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 5:30pm
That Seaport "transportation hub" is a slap in the face to taxpayers. Call it what it is: more welfare for car drivers. More money taken from non drivers and given to drivers. It is also a huge waste of very valuable land. What could have been affordable housing, a school or a park is instead used as storage for suburbanites who don't feel like taking public transit or walking.
Public transit isn't always a viable option...
By ChrisC
Sun, 03/24/2019 - 7:04pm
Try to see past your own myopic, closed minded hysterics on this issue. Many people can not use public transit to commute to their jobs from outside the city. Their geographic location, or maybe the the times they have to be at work, can preclude that. But the fact is that they have to earn a living. I'm guessing you'd rather them be unemployed and starve to death so that you can fulfill whatever fantasies you have about living in a fictional utopia where no cars exist, and we all live a quick, leisurely stroll away from our places of employment. But then you'd complain about that, too. All those "transplants" invading whatever insufferable hipster commune you live in would surely stick in your craw. And let's also take a minute to address how ridiculous your last sentence is: people who live outside the city can't just walk to work. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for finding strategies to calm traffic congestion and make our urban streets safer and more pedestrian friendly. I'm just not on board with your throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bath-water vision.
This is about the airport
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 03/25/2019 - 10:15am
And Logan Airport has direct transportation from the whole state. Uber and Lyft are filling the cell phone lot. They should pay for a separate staging area just like cabs. The cell phone lot is for people picking people up from the airport, not free parking for your online ride hail service.
What's the policy objective?
By Bob Leponge
Mon, 03/25/2019 - 10:44am
What is the policy objective that is met by charging one price to my friend whom I've asked to meet me at the airport, and a different price to the ride service driver whom I've asked to meet me at the airport?
what is the policy objective
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 03/25/2019 - 11:13am
what is the policy objective met by charging cabs one price and ride hail services another price?
They use the airport differently
By Bob Leponge
Mon, 03/25/2019 - 11:36am
They use the airport infrastructure differently. A ride hail service car (or a friend of the passenger) enters the airport and then needs to wait until a rendezvous can be arranged with the specific passenger that specific car is picking up. A taxi, on the other hand, enters a queue and, when it reaches the head of the queue, takes the next available passenger.
read the article
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 03/25/2019 - 12:42pm
That isn't what is happening. Lyft and Uber drivers are going to the cell phone lot without a fare. They are waiting there until they get picked, and using spaces that are supposed to prevent people from circling the airport until their friend gets their luggage.
Basically the ride - hail services are doing the same thing that the cabs are doing, it is just an online queue.
Massport & the MBTA
By OriginallyFromD...
Thu, 03/21/2019 - 5:31pm
How about fines for ride-share drivers who obstruct MBTA service by abruptly stopping in front of buses?
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