Seven arrested in skirmishes over anti-choice rally on the Common

So if I comment on calling the rally anti choice instead of what the organizers called it themselves I must be in favor of outlawing abortion and I should move down south?
I think abortion is gross and do not like it but i'm also in favor of keeping it legal, so moving down south is not good advice, and I like Dorchester so I'm staying.

Yup, anti-choice

By lbb
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 10:59am

Call it what it is.

That's what it is

By eeka
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:18am

People who want to outlaw other people's choice.

It's a much more honest label

By ZachAndTired
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:20am

It's a much more honest label than "pro-life."

Honest labels have been erased from the Abortion debate

By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:44am

A baby isnt a baby unless you plan on carrying them to term.
Planned Parenthood is a women's health organization, not an abortion clinic .
Everyone knows what's what,regardless of the terms.
Like when Chuck came to work one day and said he was Charlene, everyone knew it was just a label and Chuck was still Chuck but started calling him a her and Charlene anyway.

I don't feel sorry for you but...

By BlackKat
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:57am

It must be hard being so narrow minded in an ever expanding world.

Narrow minded?

By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 12:04pm

Thanks. But I dont need sorrow from people for my thoughts on issues,that's not how life works.
If you disagree with things I say,that's fine,and telling me you dont feel sorry for me doesn't make your thoughts on issues any more correct than mine.

I feel sorry for your spacebar

By Ari O
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 12:57pm

It must get lonely since it is never used after a comma.

Thanks

By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 1:11pm

I'm using a phone and will try to do better.
But why would you feel sorry for a spacebar?
Seems kind of silly.

Thanks

By StillFromDorchester
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 1:11pm

I'm using a phone and will try to do better.
But why would you feel sorry for a spacebar?
Seems kind of silly.

I'd have phrased it "anti-sex"

By Coyote137
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:25am

given that the forced birth crowd sees pregnancy as a punishment for doing the deed.

Damnit

By Old Groucho
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 10:21am

Wish Id known,

Its always enjoyable to yell at whackjob elderly and/or confused rabidly religious anti-choice folks.

Then again, there are about 12k other things that are a better use of my time.

Besides, as we speak the Arkansas river is at its highest level in 75+ years.

Using maga logic, it just means god is punishing the anti abortion crowd for the draconian laws they just passed.

Maybe we'll get another great lake out of it.

Counterprotesting is stupid

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 10:55am

Counterprotesting is stupid and ought to be illegal.

People have the right to protest peacefully. If someone else disagrees, they are free protest at their own time and place. "Counterprotesting" goes beyond that and is essentially inciting/begging for violence.

Let me guess

By adamg
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 12:04pm

You did not take a constitutional law class in college.

Ad hominem much?

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 7:40pm

Ad hominem much?

Ooh ...

By adamg
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 8:34pm

A Latin speaker.

No, that would be

By perruptor
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 4:16am

Ad hominem mucho

That's not

By Coyote137
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 12:11pm

how the 1st Amendment works.

Schneck v United States is

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 7:40pm

[i]Schneck v United States[/i] is exactly how the 1st Amendment works.

And the relevance of that case to this incident is?

By adamg
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 8:37pm

Schenck v. United States involved the concept of "clear and present danger" during a time of declared war. Could you expand on why it applies here?

He made you look

By perruptor
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 4:18am

Counterprotesting is not stupid

By Waquiot
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 2:17pm

As it is not the same as trying to shut down the speech of others.

There's just a right and a wrong way to do it.

If one group of demonstrators aren't violent

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:00am

or obnoxiously passive aggressive, counter protestors should not be violent. If both groups become obnoxious or incapable of not 'triggering' each other, resulting in violence, both groups should be scattered. Those who refuse should be arrested.

Many radical extremist, no matter their cult-like ideologies, want to be arrested and violent.

Good people on both sides?

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:06am

Good people on both sides?

I heard it was a pissing match

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:13am

Literally, adults were throwing urine.

Great use of the style guide, Adam

By Waquiot
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:42am

Of course, the oddest thing is that this has been an annual event that has passed off without violence thus far, but suddenly, after counter protesters showed up, there was violence. I wonder why? One newspaper noted that one of the organizers of the rally was pushed by the counter protesters, and let's be objective and say some liquid was thrown at a speaker at the rally.

I gotta love how people are gung ho to defend constitutional rights not explicitly mentioned in the Constitution but are hesitant to allow some First Amendment rights to be expressed.

"Wonder why?"

By Old Groucho
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 12:20pm

(conveniently ignores the rightward lurch towards keeping women as chattel down there far below the Mason Dixon)

You're really not that clever, Waq.

Goodness

By erik g
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 1:31pm

What First Amendment rights were curtailed, again? Sounds to me like the protestors said their piece, and then the counterprotesters said their piece.

I should probably just get a stamp with this written on it, because I have to repeat it an awful lot around here:

The First Amendment just means the state can't throw you in jail for saying something. It doesn't mean anyone else has to listen your shit. And, if the best defense you can muster for your argument is "it's not literally illegal for me to say this boneheaded thing!" then you might want to reconsider what you're arguing.

I agree with you

By Waquiot
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 2:15pm

Except for the actions of the 7 people who were arrested. That's an attempt to stifle speech. And again, I'd put good money that at least the majority of those arrested were trying to disrupt the originally permitted rally.

Other than that, yes, let the protestors do their thing, then let the counter protestors do their thing, and if somehow both sides can get together for a civil discourse (which people forget actually happened after Salvi's senseless destruction of human life in 1994) all the better.

Again...

By lbb
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 5:16pm

...another day, another foolishly strange hill for Waquoit.

Tell ya what, Waquoit. Let's have civil discourse over whether you get to keep your testes. You down with that?

So in short

By Waquiot
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 8:07pm

If a bunch of skinheads kicked your ass for expressing your opinions, that wouldn’t be a curtailment of speech?

Classic Waquoit strawman

By lbb
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 8:55am

Who said anything about anyone kicking anyone's ass? Why...YOU did!

"The Waquoit Hills: a unique geographical feature that has no surroundings, but merely floats in an aether of abstraction."

I guess you missed the headline of this article

By Waquiot
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 9:36am

But since you missed it, it was

Seven arrested in skirmishes over anti-choice rally on the Common

There was violence at the rally, and from reading the Globe's report, a lot of it came from one side.

So... who was actually

By Rob
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 12:39pm

So... who was actually arrested and for what?

ANTIFA as usual

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 4:30pm

The Globe’s article has photos and you can clearly see who’s being arrested with their typical symbols in the backdrop.

Shhh

By Waquiot
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 11:03pm

You'll affect the narrative that Adam is bringing forth that it was those evil abortion haters that did all the violence.

Word in mouth disease

By perruptor
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 4:24am

Adam did no such thing. Your alternative facts do not produce an alternative reality.

Adam indeed did such a thing

By Waquiot
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 9:41am

He did so by discarding the typical style of reporting on the issue. Rather than writing "Seven arrested in skirmishes between supporters and opponents of abortion on the Common," or even "Seven arrested in skirmishes over anti-abortion rally on the Common," he went blatantly partisan on the issue.

I mean, it's his website, so he can do what he wants, but let's not pretend that he didn't do what he did. He took the opportunity to demonize one side, the side that was probably the more peaceful of the two. Heck, according to the Globe, MCFL even invited the other side to speak once things calmed down.

If you want the typical style of reporting,

By perruptor
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 2:20pm

why don't you stick to sites that use those styles, whatever they are. Don't whine at Adam that he's using his style on his site. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.

Keep it up, helping the pro-life cause

By O-FISH-L
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 1:24pm

It's the actions of the left and their PR wing, the media, who have led to widespread recent gains for the pro-life movement in state laws and the White House. Whether it's the AP style book giving cover to reporters vilifying pro-life folks or the Democrat Governor of Virginia assuring us that a baby who survives a late-term abortion will be "kept comfortable" until it can be finished off, it's good to see a growing number of decent people repulsed. The celebratory standing ovation in the NY legislature on their approval of gruesome late term abortions was a new low. Now urine is thrown on peaceful protesters here in Boston, a vile tactic recently popularized by a Globe columnist who regretted not urinating in the food of a Republican. Keep it up, it's helping...the pro-life cause.

BS. Why are you, and the

By anon
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 2:21pm

BS. Why are you, and the likes of you - like Roman - so stereotypically predictable?
The recent widespread 'gains' of the pro-life movement are a manifestation of Trumpian politics, just like the hate and the racism. All the nutty people are crawling out of the woodwork, feeling empowered, thinking that their nasty agendas will get traction because we have a nut in the White House and the republicans in Congress are lapping at his behind as long as they get what they want.

Whole quotation

By Cranky
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 3:52pm

How about using the whole "kept comfortable" quotation:

"[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. "The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."

Where's the part about "finishing off" the baby?

Best one liner from the whole debate

By Roman
Mon, 06/03/2019 - 8:30pm

Re: Hollywood v Georgia

Hollywood: it'll be tough to film in Georgia if our actresses feel like their rights are curtailed while working in Georgia.

Prolifers: if your actresses can't go a month without an abortion then maybe you should stop raping them.

I'm pro-choice

By Boston_Bloke
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 6:35am

However the name of views opposing mine on the issue is pro-life. Using consistent terms is the sign of good, unbiased journalism.

The name they give themselves

By lbb
Tue, 06/04/2019 - 8:56am

Their actual position is anti-choice and anti-women's rights.

Seven arrested in skirmishes over anti-choice rally on the Common

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