A federal judge today sided with two Massachusetts district attorneys and the state's public defenders and barred ICE from detaining people with business in Massachusetts courts while a lawsuit over the issue proceeds.
US District Court Judge Indira Talwani's preliminary injunction does not apply to people in federal or state custody or to people wanted on criminal charges, but to people who are facing only civil infractions.
Talwani wrote that Suffolk County District Attorney Rachael Rollins, Middlesex County District Attorney Marian Ryan, the Committee for Public Counsel Services and the Chelsea Collaborative "demonstrated a likelihood of success" in their suit to permanently enjoin ICE from monitoring courthouses for people they want to pick up, at least enough so to warrant barring the federal agency from continuing to do so while the lawsuit continues.
In a motion for a preliminary injunction, the DAs and public defenders wrote it was vital to protect people who are witnesses in cases, are plaintiffs or defendants in lawsuits or who have other business in court - such as seeking restraining orders against domestic abusers or fighting with their landlords.
For more than two centuries, courts, including the Supreme Court and this Court, have strictly enforced a "well settled" and "absolute" common-law privilege against civil arrest of those attending court on official business, recognizing that the judicial system cannot function if victims, parties, and witnesses are deterred from appearing in court by the threat that their appearance could be used as a trap. E.g., Stewart v. Ramsay, 242 U.S. 128, 129-130 (1916); Larned v. Griffin, 12 F. 590, 594 (D. Mass. 1882). In complete disregard for that well recognized limitation on the government's civil-arrest power, United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement ("ICE") has ordered its agents to arrest parties and witnesses appearing in court — arrests based on alleged civil, not criminal, immigration infractions. As a result, tens of thousands of Massachusetts residents will not set foot in Massachusetts courts. Victims of domestic violence or of abusive practices by landlords and employers tolerate that abuse rather than risk ICE arrest. Criminal defendants accept default rather than risk appearing in court. And when prospective plaintiffs, victims, witnesses, and defendants do not appear in court, civil and criminal prosecution and defense often become impossible. In short, ICE's new and unprecedented policy has undermined access to justice in the precise way that common-law courts have predicted and protected against for centuries.
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Just here for the polite and well rounded debate.
By Old Groucho
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 5:55pm
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Encouraging to see Obama appointed judge keeping status quo
By O-FISH-L
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 8:14pm
Yawn. As we can see from the WBUR report almost a year ago, today's ruling changes little for ICE. In fact, it's encouraging to see that even an Obama judge is allowing the arrest of illegals in state court if they are in custody or wanted on criminal charges. That's all ICE asks and that will continue.
Little-known fact
By erik g
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 8:36pm
When you scratch a fascist, they always bleed blue
When you punch one in the face, they tend to stop talking
See you out there, FISH-y ;-)
Th'hell?
By Lunchbox
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 9:49pm
Now we're using the comment section to threaten violence? That's not cool.
What happened to this site?
all of a sudden
By anon
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 9:50pm
..so sensitive.
i didnt see a threat of violence anywhere.
I'm confused. Is someone here suggesting
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 10:50pm
that the extremists who are itching to incite street violence are liberals?
That's naked projection, the favorite tactic of right-wing loons and their cult leader, the would-be authoritarian president. Stop kidding yourselves, neo-fascists and ICE fanboys. We see you for what you are.
I know you are, but what am I
By berkleealum
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 6:17am
I know you are, but what am I? is a shockingly effective rhetorical device amongst dullards.
I am.
By Patriciax
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 8:44am
I am.
The violence I see is mostly from the left. Wear a MAGA hat and see what happens :). Noted instances of innocent people minding their own business being assaulted by people who still can't get over the fact trump won.
Nuts on both sides of the aisle,but the left is unhinged. You can try to excuse the actions of Antifa, and "activists", but I'm not buying it. I don't think I'm alone, but I do believe people are afraid to speak up out of fear of being assaulted.
People are responsible for their own actions, blaming hysterics over trump is silly and stupid.
You see what you want to see, then
By adamg
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 11:37am
I could point to numerous examples of Proud Boys and other white supremacists getting all fisty, but what's the point?
Sure you can and I'd agree
By Patriciax
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 12:32pm
Sure you can and I'd agree with you. But, you conveniently ignore the numerous assaults form the left and in my opinion they are greater in number.
It's a common theme here, ignore when the narrative isn't correct.
The "activists" on the left are no better than proud boys.
they are better
By anon
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 2:09pm
because they're most definitely not racists or fascists.
this is just glaring, Patricia
By anon
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 5:53pm
your opinion does not a statistic make, and people with data, not opinions, say otherwise.
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/02/19/hate-gro...
you realize that right here you are creating your own narrative?!
SPLC. Not credible.
By Roman
Sat, 06/22/2019 - 7:31pm
Keeps getting caught in lies.
Called Majid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali 'anti-muslim extremists'
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/opinion/souther...
Oh, and they're hypocrites too.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-recko...
Pot/kettle.
By boo_urns
Sat, 06/22/2019 - 11:32pm
N/T.
im sorry
By anon
Sun, 06/23/2019 - 10:19pm
were you going to dispute the data at any point? or did i miss it?
nope, guess I didnt.
What are you talking about?
By Lunchbox
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 8:58am
"erik g" threatened to punch "o-fish-l" in the face. I don't care where either of them reside on the political spectrum, that's not ok.
And the fact that it seems to be tolerated by the website proprietor is disturbing.
Violence on message boards
By Kapil
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 9:36am
Lunchbox, this is just an internet Post from erik g (a regular poster here past his prime but still able to put up a Good Post once in awhile). You are acting as if they are exchanging meeting locations to fight or something (which I am not against per se, haha). Adam has way more important matters to attend to than veiled empty threats from people with low muscle tone who don’t know each other.
"Past his prime"
By boo_urns
Sat, 06/22/2019 - 3:21pm
Weren't you banned from here under a different registered username?
i agree with you. i’m saying
By berkleealum
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 10:00am
i agree with you. i’m saying people on here and reactionaries in general use that device a lot.
no u
By Lanny Budd
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 10:22am
No he did not. In the best imitation of our great President, he implied that someone should punch somebody. Lots of people - the best people - say those fascist guys stop talking when punched. He never said who was to be the puncher. He is sure there are good people on both sides of the punch.
Dude what the hell
By SuperChingon
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 9:44am
The guy is just stating his opinion - however vile it may be - in the comments section of a news site.
And you call him a fascist and threaten to punch him if you see him? Whats wrong with you? Why do you think this is ok behavior?
you understand that the
By berkleealum
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 10:02am
you understand that the forcible apprehension of people who are carrying out lawful business is also violence, right?
Yes
By SuperChingon
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 12:10pm
Though I'd argue that it might not be, that's for another time or place.
I also don't see how that's relevant to the immature and childish response to Fish. Because of what ICE may do, we're allowed to respond that way to differing opinions on an internet message board? Both comments are vile and reprehensible, but one was stating an opinion - albeit an unpopular one - on the piece posted and the other was just an attempt and being edgy and threatening. Imo, one is excusable and the other is not.
No, don't
By adamg
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 11:35am
When you punch one in the face, they tend to stop talking
See you out there, FISH-y ;-)
Please, just, no, don't threaten violence against other folks here.
On the contrary, today's ruling changes a lot
By Bob Leponge
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 10:56pm
Before the ruling, ICE could arrest family, friends, and witnesses who aren't in custody or facing charge "under special circumstances," which my handy legal dictionary tells me means, "whenever we damn please."
After the ruling, ICE is forbidden from doing so.
Also, as Supreme Court Justice Roberts has clearly stated, there's no such thing as "an Obama Judge."
You left out an important "if
By anon
Thu, 06/20/2019 - 10:58pm
You left out an important "if", which is [i]if ICE believes they're here illegally.[/i]
Checking my handy legal dictionary again
By Bob Leponge
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 11:53am
Checking my handy legal dictionary again, if ICE believes they're here illegally is distinct from if they have been duly found to be here illegally, and, once again, means, approximately, whenever we damn please
Happy to find a well thought out respons
By SuperChingon
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 9:45am
After reading the threat of violence further up. Thanks for being a voice of reason.
Do you think in six years
By anon
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 11:13am
Do you think in six years people will be saying there's no such thing as a Trump judge? I doubt it.
and they'll be wrong as well
By Old Groucho
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 11:42am
The reason we have confirmation hearings (no matter how pointless the current administration has made them) is so we dont have a king appointing heads of a co-equal branch of government.
I will say (as will the facts) that Trump is winning in the most judicial picks being the least qualified in decades.
So in the future being a "Trump judge" won't just signal their political leanings but also their tenure being a remnant of a very dark time in America.
'da fuq?
By Luke Warm
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 8:23am
this is why the aliens are coming. because mankind is a failure.
ya mean
By Old Groucho
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 2:57pm
why theyre staying away...
You want to know what’s the
By thomas
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 11:51am
You want to know what’s violent? Pulling families apart, putting children in cages, and dangerous rhetoric that paints Mexicans and South Americans as being criminals. That’s violent.
Was it violent when past few
By Patriciax
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 12:29pm
Was it violent when past few administrations did it, or just now?
A parent should never put a child in that predicament.
Oh yeah, life is real safe
By Dot net
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 2:31pm
Oh yeah, life is real safe for the families and kids that stay in Central America. /s
Council on Foreign Relations: Central America’s Violent Northern Triangle
I'm tired of people saying
By cden4
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 3:53pm
I'm tired of people saying past administrations did the same thing. It was rare and it was only in the case where they thought the child's safety was at risk remaining with the parent or adult who accompanied them. What we're seeing now is parents and children being separated as standard procedure, which is totally unacceptable.
But let's play the other side of that coin. What if past administrations had been doing the same thing? Would that make it objectively any more acceptable today? A cruel act is a cruel act, is it not? To use the excuse "well that other person did it too!" is something you'd say to your parents when you got caught misbehaving and tried to justify your bad behavior. And we all know how well that excuse goes over.
did you just discover the
By berkleealum
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 4:55pm
did you just discover the internet this week? these talking points are so old
can we judge your parenting?
By anon
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 5:43pm
because if you had to be a parent in the Northern Triangle, you'd do anything to get your kids out.
you should try talking to a refugee sometime. I know looking down on them from atop Fox News is easier and more satisfying to your xenophobic gut, but these are human beings.
they didn't do it because it's fun.
"Predicament" is a relative thing
By Bob Leponge
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 11:26pm
When you are fleeing an outlaw state whose government either wont protect you from forces that want to rob, rape, and kill your children or is actually the root of the problem, and you are fleeing towards the border of the country whose branding features the Statue of Liberty and who presents itself as the good guys, tell me again which end of your journey is the "predicament"?
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