By adamg on Mon., 7/15/2019 - 12:04 pm
The Encore Boston Harbor casino made $16.8 million in gambling revenue between its opening June 23 and June 30, according to figures released today by the state Gaming Commission.
Roughly $9.1 million came from people playing slots and $7.7 million from people playing table games, according to the figures.
In contrast, the MGM Springfield casino earned about $20 million for the entire month of June, the commission says.
The Encore figures will mean $4.2 million in state tax revenue, according to the commission.
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Build the bridge
By BostonDog
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 12:20pm
Since the Casino is here to stay, the state & Wynn should keep up the pressure to build the pedestrian bridge to Somerville adjacent to the orange line bridge. The DCR claims a study in in progress but there's no timeline.
These sorts of promises often get forgotten once facilities open. At least have someone good come from the eyesore.
Oh, they're studying alright...
By Old Groucho
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 12:30pm
except it's on how everybody gets a taste.
Everyone forgets about the Orange Line Station ped bridge
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 12:43pm
Who pays for the second required pedestrian bridge over the tracks between the existing Orange Line station and Draw Seven State Park.
My understanding is that's
By cden4
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 5:43pm
My understanding is that's part of the pedestrian bridge plan.
Its isn't. Could become $35 million Bridge to Nowhere
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 7:14pm
Everett and Somerville working hand in hand on this? Unlikely.
Providence Ped Bridge Was Slated At $2 Million - Cost $22 MIL
By anon
Mon, 08/12/2019 - 11:17am
Providence's pedestrian bridge debacle should give Encore pause. The casino's planned $32 million bridge will likely cost upward of $300 million. For a fraction of that money - the casino could have an onsite rail station and Logan Express service.
OL bridge
By Ian
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 6:18pm
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/06/24/...
Wynn has said they'll build the bridge over they Mystic only IF the city/state builds the footbridge over the Orange Line tracks.
If I remember correctly, the Draw Seven renovations did not include the bridge over the Orange Line, but we need to apply pressure (state officials, DCR, Somerville and Everett mayors) to make sure that happens.
I really wish that Wynn's agreement had included renovations to Draw Seven and the pedestrian bridge over the OL, but given the current situation we need to convince city/state leaders to act quickly and hold the Wynn to their word to build the bridge over the Mystic.
Somerville holds the cards on that one
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 7:09pm
Beyond the state selling Draw Seven for pennies to Somerville, building new fire access roads, and having staties patrol the river bridge - I don't see Somerville complying for less. Its a rough road ahead
can you explain this?
By Ian
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 7:50am
I don't understand the dynamics you are describing.
I sort of assumed that this was all up to the state, since DCR manages Draw Seven park and MassDOT manages the orange line & train station. In that case, all Somerville could do was advocate for their preferred solution. It seems like you might have a different/better understanding of the dynamics at play.
But what was the projected revenue?
By RMM
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 12:31pm
We need to remember that state and local budgets were built around projected casino revenue.
And how much of that take was "out of state" money; and how much or it from locals squandering rent and grocery money?
No. Boston's harsh winters. Everett rail station is a better opt
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 12:40pm
That ped bridge will be useless between Dec and Mar, rainy days, and very humid days. They should build the long planned Everett rail station instead
Huh?
By Waquiot
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 3:17pm
You know there is a body of water between the Orange Line and the casino, right?
The Everett rail station would be located in, well, Everett
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 7:25pm
Right next to Encore. No need to cross a river. Do you think Everett is Somerville?
So, not a rapid transit station?
By Waquiot
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 9:09am
Yeah, that'll draw them.
Though to be fair, perhaps those who live along the North Shore might use it.
It will - because it fits the Casino's needs
By anon
Sat, 07/27/2019 - 2:07pm
A one seat ride to TD Garden and Cape Ann - with potential future connections to Logan
Commuter Rail to Logan?
By Waquiot
Sun, 07/28/2019 - 2:31pm
Those are some plans I’d love to see.
The commuter rail stop
By GoSoxGo
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 3:21pm
outside the casino would be nice, but it's not the primary way people will arrive, as the commuter rail frequency on the Newburyport/Rockport lines is inferior.
Even with all the delays, a 5-20 minute Orange Line wait is far less than waiting for a commuter rail trip.
"inferior"? Inferior to what
By Rob
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 8:56am
"inferior"? Inferior to what?
These days, gotta ask where we're setting the bar.
To put it in transit terms
By GoSoxGo
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 9:22am
The headway on the Newburyport/Rockport commuter rail line is inferior to that of the Orange Line.
(Although some days it seems like you wait forever for the Orange Line as well.)
If and when we finally get regional rail it would make sense to build a station outside the casino.
They have these things called "coats" and "umbrellas"...
By fungwah
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 3:25pm
Do you people just sit inside between December and March? You realize we've had the technology available to make it more pleasant to walk outside in less-than-perfect weather conditions for about a hundred thousand years at this point?
Not everyone is 35 and in good shape. Montreal discovered this
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 7:23pm
In Montreal, they have a similar casino setup: where the nearest subway station to their 24-hour casino is on the other side of a water bridge. It's an endless wave of medical emergencies every winter between the station and casino. In response, the casino now provides free shuttle buses from Downtown Montreal to the gaming complex.
No one's saying you have to walk
By fungwah
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 1:24am
This is Boston - lots of people are plenty capable of walking a short distance with the proper gear (which they already own because lots of people already walk outside in the winter). If you're not in good enough shape for that, no one's forcing you to walk - feel free to drive, or use one of the shuttles I'm sure Encore will keep on running.
I'd also point out that Montreal has significantly worse weather than Boston in the winter, and somehow it seems that people still manage to safely walk around outside after the age of 35 and even if they're not in great shape.
And as someone else pointed out below, people walk across the Charles all year round, on what would almost certainly be a longer bridge than this one, and I haven't heard anything about mass hospitalizations.
The Montreal Casino is a good trial and error case study
By anon
Wed, 07/17/2019 - 1:40pm
Encore Boston can avoid a-lot of Montreal's mistakes. A $32 million 780 foot high-span high-slope pedestrian bridge in a winter city may not be worth it.
You won't walk outside for 5
By Kinopio
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 4:29pm
You won't walk outside for 5 minutes in 45 degree March weather? Wow. Why do you live in Boston? Don't deny pedestrian access to other people just because you are so fragile.
The permitting process for
By civie
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 1:09pm
The permitting process for this connection has at least been started. The proponent filed an Environmental Notification Form with MEPA in April (here) and the State has completed the MEPA review (here).
They identified in the application the myriad of other permits required so don't expect any action for a while, but it has at least been initiated.
another hold-up:
By Ian
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 8:02am
Wynn has said they won't consider building the bridge unless the bridge over the OL tracks is built as well. Makes sense to do these things simultaneously, but looks like Wynn won't take the lead.
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/06/24/...
That sounds good, though I
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 1:43pm
That sounds good, though I still don't see how I'm supposed to be going to and from the casino with all that cash on the orange line.
You are just gonna lose the
By Kinopio
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 4:32pm
You are just gonna lose the money to the casino. And why do you think the orange line is the Wild West where everyone is getting robbed?
Sure, um. Do you have $32 million for a seasonal bridge?
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 2:36pm
Imagine this bridge when its caked in snow and ice and there's a terrible wind chill. Imagine this bridge on an extremely hot humid day when the Mystic discharge odor is at its worst. Imagine you build this bridge and there's no funding for the rail hop over the tracks to the Orange Line. There are better options
I give you Mass Ave, betwixt Boston and Cambridge
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 4:06pm
The Mass Ave bridge is more than 500 yards long (364.4 smoots + 1 ear, natch). It spans the Charles. It's full of pedestrians December, January, February, and March. I used to be one of them.
The idea that the bridge will be unused is nonsense. We're New Englanders, not pansies from the Mid Atlantic.
Your points are valid. If it wasnt for the proposed bridge slope
By anon
Tue, 07/23/2019 - 4:31pm
Take the North Bank Ped Bridge. Multiply the slope by four.
Seriously?
By fungwah
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 4:16pm
Coats. Boots.
Shorts. T-shirts.
This isn't an expedition to the South Pole - it's a short walk to a climate-controlled building. People will be fine.
More than fine.
By Ari O
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 5:59am
They'll be walking through the blizzard drinking an iced Dunkin.
Its a 780 foot walk with an extreme slope (non-ADA)
By anon
Fri, 07/19/2019 - 3:19pm
And that doesn't include the open space on each side. The proposed bridge is unlike anything you've used in Greater Boston.
Should we shut down the Mass
By Kinopio
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 4:34pm
Should we shut down the Mass Pike because it gets snow on it sometimes in the winter and it costs a lot of money? Not everyone is a wimp like you and can handle walking outside.
Encore has filed with MEPA to
By cden4
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 2:42pm
Encore has filed with MEPA to begin permitting of the pedestrian bridge. They've said that they plan to fully pay for it. No word on the exact timeline yet, though.
https://charlestownbridge.com/2019/05/03/encore-bo...
Could build 2 Everett rail stops for the price of one ped bridge
By anon
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 7:32pm
Encore could build two Everett commuter rail stations for the price of one Mystic ped bridge. The recent Blue Hill station clocked in at around $16 million. When there's a big event at Encore or TD Garden, that rail station link will be critical
my understanding is the
By anon
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 9:40am
my understanding is the everett rail stop isn't actually possible due to slope and stopping distance and the distance to the bridge and FRA regulations, although I'm sure some of the real railroad nerds around here would have more details
This is right
By greenlinetobrooklyn
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 1:11pm
You cannot build a rail stop here without a ton of cat-herding. This needs to stop being presented as an option.
Extending the Silver Line 3 from Market Basket to Sullivan Square is the only realistically possible alternative.
You are 100% Wrong
By anon
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 4:02pm
Think MGH Charles. Think Grading
That is dead wrong. Example: Canton Junction
By anon
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 4:32pm
Canton Junction has a considerable slope. More so than the planned Lower Broadway (Everett) station next to the casino. You're dead wrong
This is especially important
By SamWack
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 4:01pm
since so many of those currently driving to the casino will soon be taking the T.
And hot weather won't be a problem
By Sock_Puppet
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 5:43pm
Once they lose their shirts
Build the Parking garage
By anon
Tue, 07/16/2019 - 4:15pm
Just like when the Convention Center was proposed the State said nobody will drive there. A few years after people tried to take public transportation there, everybody drives to events and ends up parking in all the satellite parking lots around Southie and Marine Industrial Park. Encore needs parking. The ferry is nice but who wants to do that in the winter.
Replicating Wynn's Skycab in Macao makes more sense
By anon
Sat, 07/27/2019 - 4:08pm
And that's not saying much. Building a gondola over the Mystic is a slightly better idea than building an 800 foot high arch bridge in Mass.
Encore Boston's trees are dying after just a few weeks
By anon
Tue, 07/30/2019 - 1:24pm
"Encore Boston planning" seems to be an oxymoron
Encore is missing its projections. No $ for a mega ped bridge
By anon
Wed, 08/07/2019 - 11:14am
Wynn Encore Boston is turning into a dud fast. Seeking Alpha recently gave a scathing rundown of the resort's problems. Meanwhile, the Globe keeps applying a thick layer of paid BS every week. Wynn needs to partner with TD Garden and other existing entertainment-tourism entities in Boston, before its too late
Turning into a dud...lol
By Kaz
Wed, 08/07/2019 - 3:13pm
Casinos always open below estimate and then accelerate. New players are found, old players change their ways slowly to going to new casinos, and it takes time to pop up as a travel destination by foreign visitors compared to established casinos.
In 2-3 years, Encore Boston Harbor will overperform consistently. The area around it will have turned into an entertainment complex for multiple companies to enjoy the success, and Everett will rake in money hand over fist.
Table minimums?
By Irma la Douce
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 1:52pm
Does anyone have reliable info on whether the table minimums are always $50 for all games (as I've seen on many posted reviews), or if there are lower minimums at certain times, and if so when? No info on the Encore website that I've been able to find. I enjoy betting on the occasional spin of the roulette wheel, but not that much.
$25
By bosguy22
Mon, 07/15/2019 - 2:01pm
Was $25 the Thursday of that first week until about 9-9:30 when bumped to $50.
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