Newly elected at-large City Councilor Julia Mejia posted a voice mail she got from somebody who is upset with her proposal to strengthen Boston's sanctuary-city regulations. He vows to call the president's office.
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Angry white guy clearly isn't
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:13am
Angry white guy clearly isn't stable. More like angry crazy white guy. It's those types who end up bombing, mass shooting, serial killing, etc. Unfortunately, we have to take them seriously.
Taking bets where this caller
By Bostonkid617
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:16am
Taking bets where this caller is from:
-1200 = Southie
-900 = Charlestown
-400 = Eastie
-100 = Westie
+100 = “Readville”
Forgot one
By BostonDog
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 10:53am
More likely: Doesn't even live in Boston anymore. Revere would be my guess.
Edit: Leominster or Pelham, NH is a distinct possibility too.
Hey!
By berkleealum
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 12:46pm
The Leominster native in me took offense to this comment.
...you're not wrong though.
other contenders
By Delle Ave Kid
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:18pm
West Roxbury or Dedham
other possibilities
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:23pm
Middleborough
Or any rt 2 town west of, but inclusive of, Leominster.
the hill folk of northern MA are really their own breed of meth/smack stupid
And my former hometown...
By Turalura Lipschitz
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:22pm
Billerica. Which voted for Trump in the last election.
Saugus!
By Ari O
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:42pm
That's the town closest to Boston which voted for Trump.
Something in the water up there.
I did find that interesting.....
By Pete Nice
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 3:27pm
It seemed like a lot of MA towns and cities with high rates of opiate abuse seemed to favor Trump, almost as if the voters blamed democrats for the drug problems there or something?
More like: Towns with high
By Scratchie
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 3:40pm
More like: Towns with high rates of opiate abuse are probably working-class towns with a lot of unemployment. Working class white people who felt like they didn't benefit from the economic gains of the Obama years were among Trump's strongest supporters.
Yea that too..
By Pete Nice
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 3:44pm
agreed.
It's a nice theory, except
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 5:20pm
It's a nice theory, except Saugus and Billerica are both state average for income per-capita, and above average per-household. They aren't working-class towns, and the typical Trump supporter isn't a working-class either; they're middle class, with income above the national average. It's not the standard narrative, but it is the truth.
More likely is the presence of larger, more traditional technology and manufacturing companies as major employers: Raytheon, GE, L3, FLIR, etc. all have large facilities in the area, and the engineers who work there tend to make good money and lean conservative.
I stand corrected re; the
By Scratchie
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 9:58am
I stand corrected re; the median income of Saugus. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
And yes, you're correct about the median income of Trump supporters being higher than the US median income (I don't know if that's still true; it was true after the election and it's probably still true but I haven't seen any actual figures based on recent levels of support).
That said, "median income" is not the same as "Typical Trump voter". He drew a lot of support from non-college-educated whites, which is borne out both by polls and anecdotal evidence.
No Scratchie you were onto something...
By Pete Nice
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 11:53am
Billerica is much different than neighboring towns like Andover, Lexington, Carlisile and even Lowell. I've been up there for sporting events on numerous occasions over the past 10 years and that town has some of the worst school/athletic facilities I've ever seen.
Definitely not the wealthy engineers at these companies either. And if you to rank white working class towns? Billerica has to be in the top 10. I don't know much about Saugus except for the jokes, but it is another very white town that I've always thought of as working class.
Ok, sorry to stereotype everyone. Have a good day.
There's an interesting split
By lbb
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 12:10pm
I read an article that stated that the average Trump voter was relatively well-off for their local area. That's an important distinction, vs. the national average.
It makes more sense if you
By Pref Anon
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 10:57am
It makes more sense if you note they're relatively well off town near poorer ones. You're talking relatively well off guys, often still fairly blue collar like contractors upset at seeing "layabouts" near them.
Not making a moral judgement one way or the other here, but that matches the Massachusetts trump voters i usually see.
i was confused by this. he
By schneidz
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:11am
i was confused by this. he seems to be confused she is from san francisco ?
he mentions we from the midwest fight like ww2 or something. if so why is he calling her ?
he also mentions Vietnam,
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:26pm
he also mentions Vietnam, which is a war that the US lost. so, obviously this guy is a genius.
OTB
By Stoney
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:19am
Florida
Have you been to Southie
By Abe Froman
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 12:20pm
Have you been to Southie lately?
There aren't that many old white guys living there anymore. They sold their homes and moved to Milton or Scituate
Eastie too high on the list
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:00pm
East Boston is abut 90% Latino. Not too many angry white guys there. They all left in the "white flight" of the 1970s-1980s.
I know where he is calling from
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:16pm
It is a place called "impotent rage".
It isn't on the map. In fact, its pretty far from reality.
Wow, we can now tell people’s
By Murkin
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:28am
Wow, we can now tell people’s skin color by the sound and tone of their voice. This racist assumption is just as biased as the voicemail.
Now lets hear some racist responses that make assumptions of my skin color as well.
It's not the "sound and tone" that give it away
By tape
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:31am
It's the actual content of what he's saying.
I strongly support sanctuary
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 5:21pm
I strongly support sanctuary cities.
But I also don't think it's honest to assume someone's race from the content of what they say.
Do you also believe...
By lbb
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 12:14pm
...that "Blacks for Trump" is a thing?
Nice distraction
By fungwah
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:34am
"hmm maybe if I complain about the presentation I can ignore the fact that this guy is saying the same things I've been saying for years, just not in a fake-polite way!"
Just like a Swiss watch
By Scratchie
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:35am
Thanks for not keeping us waiting.
As soon as I saw this on UHub
By anonononon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:53am
As soon as I saw this on UHub, I knew some knuckle dragger would make this exact comment. You folks are nothing if not predictable.
You seem upset.
By Coyote137
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:03am
Is that you on the call?
Here's a race-blind response to your
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:12am
hilariously hare-brained notion. Imagine Logan Roy telling you, "Fuck off."
Self identification
By Reality Check
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:14am
Listen to the call before commenting - the guy self-identifies
Just like you just self-identified as an enabler and an idiot.
How about your explanation, Merkin?
By lbb
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 12:03pm
What's your explanation for how this individual is likely to be Latino, or black, or Asian, or anything other than a plain ol' dull-normal white dude? What in his word choice, issue focus, speech patterns or anything else points in any other direction?
By the way, I notice a whole lot of white guys on here who aren't aggrieved by this. Why are you, merkin?
oh my fucking god
By berkleealum
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 12:56pm
this may be the most Aggrieved White Guy bad faith comment i've ever read on the internet.
making assumptions about racial heritage based on physical characteristics isn't racist on its own.
ex: it's not racist if you thought "what you won't do for love" was sung by a black guy.
Pardon me boy
By roadman
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 4:14pm
But where's Sheriff Branford?
I AM Sheriff Branford.
Funny. For some reason, you sounded a lot taller on the radio.
From Smokey and The Bandit
Ooh ooh I'll play!
By eeka
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:43pm
You've been raised entirely as white and you pass as white. You don't identify in your daily life as anything but.
But if race is discussed, you'll point out that well ackshually you're 1/16th something.
(Using "skin color" as a means of pretending race isn't a thing in 2020 USA is a dead giveaway that you're a racist white person. It wasn't hard.)
You left out...
By John-W (unreg’d)
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 8:32pm
...points out how the Irish/Italian we’re discriminated against when they came over here.
I have a dream
By Ari O
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:47pm
That one day we will live on a UHub where troll comment authors will not be judged by the color of their skin but the content of their character (or at least the content of their comment).
Say it isn't so!
By PotKettle
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 10:10am
He's going to pull his tens of dollars from the Trump campaign if Donald doesn't do something?! OH NO!
Shut up bigot.
#WorldClassCity
Based on the accent of the
By dvg
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 10:46am
Based on the accent of the caller (and not the chickenshit content of the message) I am going to guess that he is one of Tom Menino's least successful relative.
That was a good response by Julia; Boston's newest and sassiest councilor! Fun to think that I voted for her (along with 22,492 other) and that she won by one vote.
Disenfranchised
By Stevil
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:13pm
Thanks to their crappy mobile site, my wife and I didn't vote and were disenfranchised. we are talking to attorneys about nullifying the election.
Wait, is this a joke?
By Parkwayne
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:27pm
I assume your deep commitment to municipal fiscal responsibility would trump any ill feelings about your vote being missed considering the cost of running a special election for city council of all things.
Mobile site for voting?
By Ron Newman
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 4:14pm
Say more please?
(But since Alejandra St. Guillen doesn't want to contest the election, I don't think any court will listen to you.)
You keep using that word...
By lbb
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:39pm
Lack of a mobile site does not prevent you from voting. Fail to vote for long enough and you will be removed from the voter rolls.
Don't blame others for your failings.
Wasn't lack of a site
By Stevil
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 10:00pm
It was poorly designed.
It led two educated people to believe that an absentee ballot could only be obtained and processed by mail.
In fact, you can vote in person which is clear on the website.
The real concern was later when I went to the election department to point out the problem with the site and some bureaucrat told me it wasn't the election department's problem.
It damned well is their problem.
And I believe we've voted in EVERY election for the past 20 years. We always vote, but didn't think we'd need an absentee ballot until a few days before the election.
why are you perpetually aggrieved?
By Old Groucho
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 11:12am
And it's pretty easy to attend class and get a diploma, what you do with that education is what matters.
In case you haven't noticed
By Stevil
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 2:37pm
this is a pretty good cross section of society and everyone is perpetually aggrieved about something. My pet peeves happen to be wasting money, incompetence/sloth and people thinking that rich people should be their sugar daddies.
do I
By Luke Warmer
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 10:54am
not hear the treacling milk-fed lilt of one of our Self-Appointed (exempting-Trump from) Law and Order Czars: capecodpiece? Or is it the venal and venereal -ex-truncheon lobbing visigoth himself: Oafish-lol?
Too bad the message got cut off
By Parkwayne
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:02am
...before he could get into the Centre St. road diet.
This guy is wicked smart
By Scratchie
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:13am
Like most Trump supporters, this guy is a genius. He knows that she's both a "fascist" and a "communist".
What *is* the explanation for the
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:35am
average Trumpie's grasp of basic civics and political history?
Dropped on their head repeatedly as an infant? Spent their elementary school years huffing turpentine? Caught a street-hockey slapshot on the forehead? Pushed a "who can hold their breath underwater longer" bet too far?
Just curious.
Poor guys
By BostonDog
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:50am
They OD on Fox News and talk radio.
It's like meth, only you aren't as functional.
Eating lead paint chips
By lbb
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 12:01pm
It's a real thing.
Sort of
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:26pm
High lead levels in school age kids, likely from breathing in lots of leaded gasoline fumes and heavy metals in coal smoke, have been shown to lower the IQ of working class kids in metro Boston. Not only that, the follow up evaluations correlated lead exposure with serious deficits in behavioral self control throughout life!
As you note, some researchers even believe that it was a big part of the violent spasm of crime that hit at mid century.
Yes, coal smoke
By Friartuck
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 3:17pm
That's totally a winner
Yup
By lbb
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 9:40pm
I was being facetious when I spoke of eating lead paint chips, but obviously the airborne toxins would have been a much bigger impact. Although in individual cases...
Serious answer
By Scratchie
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 12:14pm
Shitty schools.
No teaching of recent history.
Too much Fox News/Alex Jones/Rush Limbaugh/et al.
GOP has basically abandoned any semblance of reasonable debate in favor of calling their opponents traitors for the last 25 years or so.
Strong correlations between
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 12:45pm
Strong correlations between lack of critical thinking skills (heightened amygdala responsiveness leads to fight-or-flight, black and white and in/outgroup thinking) and conservatism. Strong correlations between high levels of group-identity and deferral to leadership and conservatism as well. People who are less likely to have a nuanced view of the world and cannot handle ambiguity or complex issues are more likely to become republicans. There's some research showing explicitly teaching critical thinking skills can balance this (people give more leftist answers after partaking in exercises teaching critical thinking) but obviously republicans have spent the last 30 years dismantling that
the Joe Rogan Demographic
By Old Groucho
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 11:15am
They're too young to blame it on senility (like most of the Red Hats). These folks are different, they may know better but they don't care. It's all a troll, a game, an extension of grade school antics that a lot of these people never grew out of.
It's ignorance. Proud, flag waving ignorance.
i wonder if governor charlie
By schneidz
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:14am
i wonder if governor charlie baker would prefer to follow this rant.
One guess
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:17am
This guy complaining about "leaches" has already received vastly more $$$ from public coffers from medicare and social security than he ever contributed.
Neither of which would be solvent were it not for young adult immigrants entering the workforce.
Sons of WWII Fighters
By anon
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 11:24am
In other words, a militia of 75 year olds?
He's expecting an army of 75 year old men to just pick up guns and throw a collective tantrum?
Okay.
Angry whites
By Republican
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:29pm
Adam, how do you know he is white (like you)? If you thought it was a Hispanic man would you have captioned “Angry Hispanic man”?
Dumb *and* repetitive
By fungwah
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:45pm
Next time before commenting, try scrolling up to see if everyone's already derided the dumb point you're about to make.
You are Late!
By Reality Check
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 1:51pm
Piotr and Vlad will be docking your pay on this one!
Siri...
By Scratchie
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:02pm
What is 'white fragility'?
He has a tiny amount of self-control
By Gary C
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:03pm
He keeps edging towards actually threatening her, but then seems to realize that that would be bad and pulls back (and talks about the war etc.) His rant would be so much more meaningful if he actually knew who Julia is.
He really did.
By Coyote137
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:52pm
Kept creeping up to it, desperately wanting to say that he would kill her, but then would stop himself and talk about the military.
At a guess...
By lbb
Fri, 01/24/2020 - 12:18pm
...he's gone over that line in the past, and has received a visit to discuss his views with those in authority.
His final call?
By Friartuck
Thu, 01/23/2020 - 2:52pm
Before heading to Florida for spring training?
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