![World War I and Korean and Vietnam War memorial in Adams Park in Roslindale](https://universalhub.com/files/styles/main_image_-_bigger/public/images/2020/memorial1.jpg)
At one end of Adams Park in Roslindale Square is a mournful memorial to local service members who died in battle in World War 1, the sort of men we learned today the president scorns as "losers" and "suckers", men he's not even sure fought on the right side in that war.
The park itself is named for Irving W. Adams, who lived at Edgemont and South Street, who attended the Longfellow School and who, at just 20, became the first Massachusetts soldier to die in World War I, at Raimbeaucourt, France. So that might further discomfort the president, even if it weren't raining and so potentially posing a threat to his hair.
The World War I memorial was eventually extended to the dead of the Korean and Vietnam wars, the latter of which the president evaded due to alleged bone spurs, although he did fight his own "personal Vietnam" in attempting to avoid contracting a sexually transmitted disease from the "potential landmines" that are vaginas.
At the other end of Adams Park is a memorial urn for the dead of World War II.
![World War II urn in Roslindale](/images/2020/memorial2.jpg)
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Calling Treason now?
By Daan
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 3:31pm
In TV land I think that is called Jumping the Shark. That is what's used for shutting down and out a discussion. It creates a "I'm right and you're wrong" environment. Just as point of clarification: That is what fascists do.
Ann Coulter called
By lbb
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 4:10pm
Ann Coulter called. She wants her self-serving bullshit definition of "treason" back.
A teenager?
By tblade
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 5:38pm
Putin has his claws in our executive branch and his propaganda army dominates social media disinformation and the “antifa” boogie person you come up with is a teenaged activist from Sweden? A teenager from Sweden!?
What a f*cking joke.
So...
By Pete X
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 5:24pm
You're just coming out and saying "antifascist" is bad?
I'm just shaking my head at the self-own here. Are these people wearing converse parody t-shirts striking fear in your heart?
lol treason
By J.R. Dobbs
Sat, 09/05/2020 - 6:19am
on what planet?
Statue Lives Matter
By tblade
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 9:20am
The ‘Statue Lives Matter’ contingent has inserted a totally non sequitur change-the-subject comment into the thread.
Antifa doesn’t exist and is a right wing boogie man. And when was the last time any statue in Boston was vandalized in connection with racial justice unrest? June?
And yes, “Antifa” definitely monitors UHub to recon new statues and memorials to destroy. Great hot take.
Laura's gonna do Ten Years in Prison(tm)!
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:23am
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/hurricane-la...
Not the first time this statue has been toppled
By Irma la Douce
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:31am
The statue has been restored each of the previous "several" times that it has been toppled. It will be interesting to see what Lake Charles residents decide to do now.
Actual troops support Biden
By perruptor
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 7:32am
They aren't stupid. I imagine they've noticed that Biden is one of the vanishingly few people high in the government who have actually had a child go to war.
you sure?
By Willy
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 8:29am
looks to me like you just called 37% of active-duty troops stupid
Historically, servicepeople tend to support
By MC Slim JB
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 8:44am
conservative leaders. The fact that Biden is leading Trump by four points is shocking, or would be if Trump weren't so awful in his treatment of the military, as I documented above -- while forgetting to mention his astonishing, hateful silence on the Russian bounties issue.
You go ahead and continue to pretend all those things aren't there. I can only assume you have no connection to the military, or don't give a shit about anyone you know that does have one.
Well ...
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 9:18am
If they support someone who continually demeans and derides them, considers them his own private army when the monsters under the bed act up or he wants to threaten someone, does not do a single thing when a friend of his puts bounties on their head, and constantly claims to support veterans while claiming credit for legislation his predecessor signed?
I'd say they at the very least have another think coming.
Folks who like order supporting a man who likes chaos?
By Daan
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 11:45am
Please offer some explanations of why any soldier would support a man with the following characteristics:
Demeans deceased and live soldiers. Refused to honor the American soldiers who died in France in WW 1.
Chose to ignore reports that his friend Putin and his frenemy Iran sponsored bounties for the heads of American soldiers.
Is a leader whose style is fundamentally based on chaos.
Is a leader who demands person loyalty (which is what Hitler did) putting himself ahead of where loyalty belongs: defending and protecting the Constitution.
I'm all eyes and ears....
Is that all?
By perruptor
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 1:15pm
50% of people are below average intelligence.
In this current moment, how
By Milwaukee Mike
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 1:16pm
In this current moment, how could anybody take a serious look at the American People, or any subgroup thereof, and not conclude that it's plausible that 37% of them are stupid? Honest to God, that number feels low.
More Trump crap
By perruptor
Sat, 09/05/2020 - 8:18am
Here's a story about Trump insulting individual generals who worked for him, variously calling them liars, "not tough enough," or "human scum," and claiming that he knows more about military matters than they do.
I am a veteran. I served in Vietnam -- not just during that war, but in it. While I find Trump's remarks about dead and living veterans stupid and reprehensible, they are typical of his attitude toward everyone who isn't him. I don't really understand how that escaped everyone who's now outraged by these remarks. They should not be surprised.
The man had life handed to him on a silver platter, with the only apparent condition that he never, ever, admit to failing, or even making a mistake. He has lived his life as an expression of that. He is always instantly ready to blame somebody else for anything that goes wrong, to criticize anyone who does things he wouldn't do, and to insist that everything he does is "perfect" and "great." Nothing that comes out of his mouth or his keyboard is worth listening to, or ever has been. People who voted for him should have known better, and acted stupidly. Those who still support him are dangerously stupid. If he continues in office, the American Experiment is over, and will end in failure.
Trump has contempt for people who enlist in military service
By Anonymous
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 1:06am
He thinks they are suckers and loosers. Just as he cannot understand them I cannot understand him.
Trump is projecting once
By Kinopio
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 7:48am
Trump is projecting once again. Deep down he knows he is the loser. His daddy got him out of military service. How embarrassing. Diaper Donald cried about having a pretend boo boo on his foot. How embarrassing. The behavior of a true loser. He is jealous of those who are more courageous than him which is pretty much everyone but Ted Nugent.
Another Adam temper tantrum
By Willy
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 9:06am
Using the memorials in Adams Park, what a flimsy excuse to bash the President. And over yet another anonymously sourced hit piece that has been denied on the record by six officials (and counting) that were there.
This website is free, and you
By brianjdamico
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 8:14am
This website is free, and you don't even have to come here.
You don't have to believe the reporting by The Atlantic, which has now been confirmed by at least The Washington Post and the AP. But the alleged rhetoric is sure in line with previous comments publicly made about those who have served and sacrificed for our country. And he's decided to insult John McCain again late last night, by claiming among other things, that he did more for veterans because he got Veterans Choice passed and McCain didn't. Unfortunately, in the world bound by facts, for which he does not live, Veterans Choice was a law signed by the previous president, and was sponsored by John McCain himself. So again, you can believe what you chose to believe, but that may be the wrong choice.
Adding to the list of outlets
By brianjdamico
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 5:16pm
Adding to the list of outlets confirming the details of The Atlantic's reporting, Fox News: https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/130197532...
Trump called McCain a loser for being captured
By tblade
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 8:22am
- The piece was verified by 3 news organizations
- There is a public record of Trump McCain a loser in public (Twitter: 7/18/15). So we we already know he says this stuff.
- Trump is a documented white supremacist piece of sh*t
- Trump is credibly accused of sexual assault and rape
No one needs an excuse, flimsy or otherwise, to bash a person who is as contemptible as child molesters and murderers (and also happens to occupy the White House).
John McCain didn't invite Donald Trump to his funeral.
By mplo
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:31am
John McCain didn't invite Donald Trump to his Funeral. Fairly shortly before his passing due to a really malignant brain cancer (the name of which escapes me at the moment), he made that clear as the light of day, if one gets the drift.
Buddy
By Parkwayne
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:41am
Just say you agree. Just say you agree that women should be groped, it's fine to fuck a porn star when your third wife is still recovering from the birth of the son you don't care about. Just say you do think Mexicans are rapists. Just say you also think John McCain was a loser for getting captured in Vietnam. No-one if forcing you to defend Trump so just own it, Willy.
What's your favorite part? The corruption? The $3T trade deficit Trump promised to eliminate? The ignoring of Russian bounties on our troops?
You boot lickers are so quick to get mad about any criticism of Trump without actually specifying which Trump policy and success that is worth defending.
the president's allies deny yet another damaging story
By berkleealum
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 8:33am
case closed!
Everything republicans proclaim to support is a lie.
By bulgingbuick
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 8:40am
They are cuckservatives. A submissive cult.
And yet
By bgl
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:26am
The AP, that bastion of centralist and middle of the road non-partisanship and factual reporting, has run an article confirming.
https://apnews.com/b823f2c285641a4a09a96a0b195636ed
LOL. Trump denies saying
By Milwaukee Mike
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 1:22pm
LOL. Trump denies saying things we have video of him saying, for Christ's sake.
Second news account ...
By adamg
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 9:57am
Associated Press reports:
"was told about" = Hearsay
By anon
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 9:43pm
firsthand knowledge of events, as we all have, but which ones?
Many Such Memorials in Roslindale
By dmk
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:14am
Many of the street intersections in Roslindale bear the names of lost soldiers from WWI and WWII and later wars.
My great-grand uncle, Thomas Donley was also lost in WWI after Adams and his memory is facilitated at Thomas Donley Sq. at the intersection of Cummins Highway and Brown Ave. Similar memorials are all over Roslindale. Sadly, the City of Boston has little to no information on these memorials from that time period and it le left to remaining family members to carry on the interest and the story.
Yes
By Parkwayne
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:43am
I have often wished there was a city website/wiki simply detailing who these guys were, that are commemorated across the city with signs.
Capstone project
By tblade
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 10:49am
This would be a great capstone project for a high school history class or for college independent study credits. Catalog all the memorials > catalog who is memorialized > add a short bio if possible.
Eagle Scout Project
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 11:39am
This could be an eagle scout project, too. I will mention it to a scout leader friend to pass on to his Boston leader friends.
I'd contribute
By dmk
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 1:05pm
I did manage to get my great-grand-uncle's name corrected on the sign not that long ago through the city, so there is some kind of effort happening there in some capacity. His gravestone also has the name misspelled but that cannot be fixed at this point of course. Lots of that back in those days.
I'd be pl;eased to contribute in any way.
I wrote a history of the former Mt Hope Railroad station on the main line railroad for area housing developers that were going to use the land that held the station at one time. My family dates back to the late 1800s in Roslindale. My great-grandfather was one of the people that responded to the Bussey Street Rail Bridge disaster. He actually had a minor injury there during the recovery process and had a settlement from the railroad.
The My Hope railroad Station.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9oHGoaxY23ITzRvVnpwcm42LUU/view?usp=sharing
Yes
By ElizaLeila
Sat, 09/05/2020 - 10:25pm
It was done in Natick by a friend's son:
https://natick.wickedlocal.com/news/20181028/natick-boy-scout-honors-mil...
The city is working on a project
By Waquiot
Sat, 09/05/2020 - 9:42am
In fact, you can go here to see what is going on. It's pretty sparse with information, but they have beefed up many of the pages.
Buried under Trump's BS are some legitimate historical questions
By Ron Newman
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 11:16am
such as:
Were there any 'good guys' in World War I?
Was there any reason for the US to pick one side over the other? Or to enter the war at all?
Had Germany won, or at least been less humiliated, might we have avoided Nazism and the subsequent second war?
Good questions
By Daan
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 11:58am
They can not be answered since the past is closed. But there are lessons that can be taken.
Humiliation never helps. The German state was virutually decimated. It's former political organization forced into a form of political organization (parliamentary) where no experience had existed. The French government wanted specifically punish the Germans in retaliation for the Franco-Prussian war. So the end of WW1 was at a level a continuation of the Franco-Prussian War.
WW 1 itself was a continuation of a belief that this was just another, not unlike previous wars. It would end soon enough. What no one understood is that warring technology changed the entire game. Chemical weapons, attacks by air, far deadlier weapons than used in the past and the development of static trench warfare.
Avoiding Nazism and Fascism are two complicated and interrelated questions. They demand considering the power of nationalism; the power of demagoguery, the weakness of new created democractic-republics. They also require examining how other forces, including religion and historical bigotries come into play. They also require consideration of how scientific theories are used and abused. The Nazi concept of race itself was (and is) a false concept which was nevertheless support by other western nations, especially the US.Where Germans used pseudo-science to declare Jews a sub-human race white Americans used pseudo-science to replace the religious theories supporting the oppression and subjugation of non-whites, especially Blacks.
We are still fighting to remove from cultures some of the poisonous plants that flourished in Nazi, fascist ideologies, Eugenics pseudo-sciences, etc.
We were mostly trying to mind
By brianjdamico
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 12:00pm
We were mostly trying to mind our own business and maintain diplomatic neutrality while Germany worked to get Mexico to start a war with us. From an American perspective, I'd say that anyone trying to start a war against the US is a bad guy. Yes, we were sending supplies across the Atlantic to our European allies, but Germany was also sinking those ships and we didn't declare war on them for that reason alone.
Actually, we did
By perruptor
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 1:10pm
But that is why we declared war on Germany. Pacifist President Woodrow Wilson, relying on Germany's Sussex Pledge, vowed to keep the US neutral. When Germany decided that unrestricted submarine attacks could win them the war, they violated their pledge and started sinking neutral ships. Wilson had made neutrality conditional on that pledge.
So the Zimmermann Telegram
By brianjdamico
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 5:38pm
So the Zimmermann Telegram played no role in our declaration of war?
Another ultra-left commie pinko "news" source checks in
By adamg
Fri, 09/04/2020 - 5:04pm
Oh, sorry, no, I meant Fox News's national security correspondent:
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