It seems that Charlie Baker's default response now is to call up the military when citizens decide to exercise their right to protest due to that being such a tremendous threat.
I literally watched car loads of people being dropped off at Ave de Lafayette and Wash, run to the crossing and come back with arm loads of goods. A few of them had BLM shirts on, a few had Red Sox shirts on. Almost all had some sort of object in their hand to break windows and or doors.
You can profess that Black lives matter, and also be a thief. You can be a Red Sox fan and be a thief. Or a Yankees fan.
I'm guessing that if they arrived by the carload,as you say, while the peaceful protesters had marched to the State House from Roxbury that night, that they were not part of the protest that had been going on for several hours at that point.
the proximity to NH, and the chatter among the white nationalist hill people up there, had many worried about maga agitators mixing in with the crowd to provoke violence or use vehicles as weapons
if someone in all black with ties to magaworld/proud boys/white nationalists (pick one) decides to instigate something by way of arson or god forbid an explosive device, id rather have NG on scene than packs of nervous and anxious riot cops with batons jacked up on Monster and the euphoria of double overtime with danger pay.
At least NG have field medic training as opposed to the "pull trigger until it goes click" mantra of recent police activities.
Given the recent history of fascists and white supremacists attempting (sometimes successfully) to attack and murder peaceful protesters and to turn peaceful protests into riots, I don't think it's at all insane to call out the national guard (whose members, by the way, have not, presumably, been infected by the toxic cesspool of thin-skinned, us-against-them, butt-hurt racism and bigotry that the police unions represent).
It wasn't the BLM or "antifas" that were causing the alleged problems in PDX in that small area that was invaded by mercenaries - not that many of us didn't know that already.
These same white supremacist right wing assholes were impeding the wildfire evacuations by blocking roads with illegal checkpoints. These are President Drumpf's "very fine people" (who he thinks are filthy, but loves their manly manly masculine chest thumping).
If the National Guard didn't have its own extensive history of violence against peaceful protest, I'd be inclined to agree with you in theory. But they do, so I'm not.
When there are fires burning near your home, you make sure the hose & extinguisher are handy. You don't just assume you'll run to Walmart later if things get worse.
Please show me evidence it happened, besides a single Stacos tweet about people "attempting" to break into that firehouse, which I've seen morph into "stormed and destroyed."
There were a number of reporters embedded in the march, none of them reported any firehouse ravaging. I was sort of half listening to the scanner, with time out to listen just to BFD at a fire on Howard Avenue and heard nothing. Had a fire station actually been destroyed, that would have been a major focus of any BPD radio communications.
that nothing more should be made of the firehouse incident than what Stacos tweeted. But it also shouldn't be ignored
MSM was fine with reporting that a few lunkheads wanted to confront the BPD, but March organizers did a good job reeling them in. Of course that was police they were confronting and no one is gonna cry about that.
However, this incident involved firefighters and MSM aren't going to report that if they can help it.
All the more reason that sources like you & Stacos are crucial to knowing what happens in Boston.
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So all those National Guard troops ...
By adamg
Fri, 09/25/2020 - 11:20pm
Spent the night hanging out in the parking lot next to the Kneeland Street steam plant near South Station, as Jed Hresko discovered:
Good job people. I wise
By anon
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 12:47am
Good job people. I wise saying to apply to life that proves true: You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Increase the Peace
Thank God
By SeanSouth
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 9:08am
They weren't needed!
Now standard gubernatorial reaction
By Angry Dan
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 9:33am
It seems that Charlie Baker's default response now is to call up the military when citizens decide to exercise their right to protest due to that being such a tremendous threat.
Do you
By anon
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 9:49am
Already forget what happened a few months ago.
You mean
By SwirlyGrrl
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 12:26pm
Do I remember BPD officers kettling and attacking peaceful marchers with tear gas so that they couldn't go home after the march?
Yes. I do.
Um
By NoDoginTheFight
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 3:32pm
I literally watched car loads of people being dropped off at Ave de Lafayette and Wash, run to the crossing and come back with arm loads of goods. A few of them had BLM shirts on, a few had Red Sox shirts on. Almost all had some sort of object in their hand to break windows and or doors.
Yeah people steal things.
By BBW
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 8:06pm
Yeah some people steal things. Police do too though so they need to start arresting each other.
You can profess that Black
By brianjdamico
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 8:13pm
You can profess that Black lives matter, and also be a thief. You can be a Red Sox fan and be a thief. Or a Yankees fan.
I'm guessing that if they arrived by the carload,as you say, while the peaceful protesters had marched to the State House from Roxbury that night, that they were not part of the protest that had been going on for several hours at that point.
That's nice dear
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 09/27/2020 - 9:17am
You are aware of this, right?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/15/cri...
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/well-coordin...
NYC reported the same thing: organized criminals are famous opportunists. Just look at the Trump Crime Family.
I've got some great waterfront land to sell you in Florida when you are ready for a change in latitude.
when police attack citizens,
By the real matt
Tue, 09/29/2020 - 2:33pm
when police attack citizens, people are gonna push back.
blame the cops.
to be fair
By anon
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 9:55am
the proximity to NH, and the chatter among the white nationalist hill people up there, had many worried about maga agitators mixing in with the crowd to provoke violence or use vehicles as weapons
if someone in all black with ties to magaworld/proud boys/white nationalists (pick one) decides to instigate something by way of arson or god forbid an explosive device, id rather have NG on scene than packs of nervous and anxious riot cops with batons jacked up on Monster and the euphoria of double overtime with danger pay.
At least NG have field medic training as opposed to the "pull trigger until it goes click" mantra of recent police activities.
Given recent history....
By Bob Leponge
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 10:16am
Given the recent history of fascists and white supremacists attempting (sometimes successfully) to attack and murder peaceful protesters and to turn peaceful protests into riots, I don't think it's at all insane to call out the national guard (whose members, by the way, have not, presumably, been infected by the toxic cesspool of thin-skinned, us-against-them, butt-hurt racism and bigotry that the police unions represent).
Yep
By SwirlyGrrl
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 10:55am
It wasn't the BLM or "antifas" that were causing the alleged problems in PDX in that small area that was invaded by mercenaries - not that many of us didn't know that already.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/proud-boys-chat-log...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oreg...
These same white supremacist right wing assholes were impeding the wildfire evacuations by blocking roads with illegal checkpoints. These are President Drumpf's "very fine people" (who he thinks are filthy, but loves their manly manly masculine chest thumping).
If the National Guard didn't
By tape
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 11:04am
If the National Guard didn't have its own extensive history of violence against peaceful protest, I'd be inclined to agree with you in theory. But they do, so I'm not.
A century of gassing peaceful protests
By SwirlyGrrl
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 11:37am
Fascinating article and compilation of sources on how and why tear gas has been used to attack first amendment rights to demonstrate.
https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2020/06/18/tear-gas-c...
smart move calling up the Guard
By anony-mouse
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 12:26pm
When there are fires burning near your home, you make sure the hose & extinguisher are handy. You don't just assume you'll run to Walmart later if things get worse.
I'm glad they were available and also not needed.
Same here. I have a lot of
By anon
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 7:44pm
Same here. I have a lot of respect for
the men and women of the National Guard.
I think he wants this to be a
By BannedFromTheRoxy
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 8:48pm
I think he wants this to be a Sundown Town
Better To Be
By Bostonmaggie
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 2:45pm
prepared.
And he kept them out of sight another important tactic.
Breaking into
By anon
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 11:30am
A Boston Firehouse is not peaceful!
No, it wouldn't be, but ...
By adamg
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 11:52am
Please show me evidence it happened, besides a single Stacos tweet about people "attempting" to break into that firehouse, which I've seen morph into "stormed and destroyed."
There were a number of reporters embedded in the march, none of them reported any firehouse ravaging. I was sort of half listening to the scanner, with time out to listen just to BFD at a fire on Howard Avenue and heard nothing. Had a fire station actually been destroyed, that would have been a major focus of any BPD radio communications.
I agree
By Bostonmaggie
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 2:43pm
that nothing more should be made of the firehouse incident than what Stacos tweeted. But it also shouldn't be ignored
MSM was fine with reporting that a few lunkheads wanted to confront the BPD, but March organizers did a good job reeling them in. Of course that was police they were confronting and no one is gonna cry about that.
However, this incident involved firefighters and MSM aren't going to report that if they can help it.
All the more reason that sources like you & Stacos are crucial to knowing what happens in Boston.
It shouldn't be ignored
By SwirlyGrrl
Sun, 09/27/2020 - 9:19am
Indeed.
It should be shown to be the fake bullshit that it was as Adam has just done.
Didn't your mother ever talk to you about spreading rumors?
Did I hear a noise?
By SwirlyGrrl
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 12:14pm
Must have been an anon bot farting into the night.
Bots were never taught to avoid spreading unsubstantiated rumors.
The Globe called it “largely
By anon
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 11:59am
The Globe called it “largely peaceful” ...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/09/25/metro/prote...
At every reasonably sized event
By jmeltzer
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 3:02pm
there are always a couple of assholes who get arrested for "disorderly conduct" or similar asshole behavior.
Red Sox games are usually
By brianjdamico
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 5:13pm
Red Sox games are usually "largely peaceful" as well, with a few that get out of control and end up under arrest.
Peaceful Protest
By Jeshurun
Sat, 09/26/2020 - 4:43pm
Way to set an example Boston. Nevertheless we doubtlessdisfavor this situation all the same.
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