By adamg on Mon., 10/5/2020 - 9:27 am
State Police shut I-93 north in Dorchester this morning so the Patriots could have an easier time getting from Gillette to the airport.
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It depends on what time of day it is, however.
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:45am
Both the morning and the late-afternoon/evening rush hours, are extremely brutal, especially on the Southeast Expressway, where it's rush-hour 24/7, because it's always crowded.
????
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:22am
What do you even know about it?
For fuck's sake, I know plenty,
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:28am
because I've driven on the Southeast Expressway enough times, both at rush hour and off hours. If personal experience doesn't count, then what the fuck does?
Lol.
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:17am
Lol.
LMAO off at you too, SwirlyAsshole!
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:18am
: O
False equivalence, but thanks
By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:42am
False equivalence, but thanks for playing!
Oh, sure
By adamg
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:45am
And I sure hope there wasn't an ambulance stuck in that traffic. Somebody could have died!
Oh, wait, I'm sorry, that was one of the arguments with the protests.
Well, you know what, though?
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:54am
This, imho:
is a perfectly legitimate argument.
It used to be that:
A) Protestors did not shut down highways with fast moving traffic on them.
B) The people who organized such protests would make the protestors move aside in order to let ambulances and other emergency vehicles through. When a seriously ill or injured person is being transported to the hospital, time really is of the essence. Every second of every minute of every hour really does count. The fact that nowadays ambulances are often forced to take a longer route to a hospital can and often does have rather devastating affects. Frankly, I think that before totally shutting down traffic, especially at rush-hour, people really should consider that there are people needing to get to important medical appointments, or get their pets to the animal hospital on an emergency basis, or to get to work on time so they won't lose their job.
It was wrong then, it is wrong now
By JASON
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:00am
It was wrong then, it is wrong now.
They shouldnt be slowing down traffic to let the Pats buses get to the airport. Its not like its a commercial flight. Its a charter.
There's a special lane on the Southeast expressway for
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:30am
people taking carpools, and for buses, I think. That's a good thing.
An ambulance
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:18am
That started out to drive to Boston after the road was shut when Providence was closer!
Grimace et al wanted to shut down 93 until World Peace was had.
By Section77
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:41am
This was done to achieve a real world result (get people to the airport), then open it up to others as quickly as possible. I understand if you disagree that it should have been done, but still a false equivalence.
false equivalence
By berkleealum
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:06am
this is true - in one case, the highway was shut by normal people seeking to amplify a righteous message
in the other, the state shut the highway because some sports guys had to get to the airport since their game was postponed on account of their star qb contracting an incredibly contagious illness
priorities, amirite?
What's with your sarcasm, berkleealum?
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:15am
I don't have a lot of sympathy for "normal" people totally shutting down traffic, especially at rush-hour and/or on a freeway, just to amplify and emphasize a righteous message.
Secondly, shutting down the Expressway because some sportsmen had to get to the airport was a stupid move, as well. Why couldn't they have been airlifted to the airport? They should've been.
Thirdly, berkleealum, I disagree with you. Over and out!
Adjustment needed
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:15am
Adjust sarcasm detectors.
Airlifted?
By Hardy Har Har
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:52am
Sure, land a few Chinooks in the stadium parking lot and off you go.
If you whine about that BLM protest
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:16am
Please tell me that you didn't support Proud Jerks blocking roads and checking IDs during wildfire evacuations.
I don't support the Proud Boys either, SwirlyBabe!
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:20am
Don't fucking give me shit, honeybabe! I don't give a good goddamn who it is who does the blocking of traffic, especially at rush-hour, for their own stupid-assed agenda. It's beyond stupid.
Wow
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:24am
Somebody has been triggered!
ha ha ha!
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:29am
That somebody who's been triggered is YOU...by a long shot!
I think you need to have
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:47am
I think you need to have another one of those chats with adam.
I thought they have their own
By mmurph
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:48am
I thought they have their own planes and flew out of Providence?
They used 2 airplanes and airports today
By JASON
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:58am
They used 2 airplanes and 2 airports today to separate those who were close to Cam Newton and those that werent
Why not use BED like the
By PW
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:03pm
Why not use BED like the Celtics and Bruins do?
Yeah, but we like the
By Murkin
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:23am
Yeah, but we like the Patriots.
So...
By Citygirl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:30am
You hate black people and their right to live? Got it, prick.
Ha ha ha!
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:23pm
You hate people who have different opinions on how things should be done? Got it, asshole.
Dick off
By Citygirl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 2:31pm
Where did he give a suggestion on how things could be handles differently? He literally said "but we like the Patriots", implying the dislike of BLM protesters so save it. And do you have any suggestions? Since silently kneeling, obtaining a permit to protest, succeeding academically to attempt to get into positions of power, donating, begging, pleading, crying, starving, etc are all inconvenient for folks like yourself? Get on, respectfully.
Ahhhh, get lost, citybabe!
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:32pm
You're so right! I don't like inconvenience, no matter what or who is inflicting it, and I never did. I've never liked protesting, and never will.
And there we have it
By fungwah
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:51pm
"I just don't see why I shouldn't be able to sit at the lunch counter just because a bunch of Negroes think that they should be able to sit there! How dare they inflict this inconvenience on me!"
You're missing the point, sweetie!
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 4:19pm
Things are way different than they were back then.
(No subject)
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 4:51pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8[/youtube]
You're right!
By fungwah
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 5:42pm
Back then it was other people being inconvenienced, so it's easy for you to say that it was the right thing to do. But now that you're the one being inconvenienced, it's a big problem.
I don't care what you or anybody else thinks, fungwah
By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 6:50pm
In the first place, that was a whole different time. Secondly, people who are asserting their rights to sit in a lunchroom or wherever, and to be served like everybody else is not the same thing as holding up traffic and causing people to be late to work, important medical appointments, or bringing a sick pet or pets to the emergency room at Angell Memorial Animal Hospital, or wherever.
Also, there were more than likely plenty of other lunchrooms, etc., where people could go, who wanted to get a bite to eat.
"that was a whole different time"
By lbb
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 10:23am
Google "Letter from Birmingham Jail" and get some perspective.
You really need to read up more on the civil rights movement
By fungwah
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:03pm
I'd start with reading up on the Selma to Montgomery marches, in particular some of the arguments being made against them:
Saying that protests for equal rights should only be done in a way that is convenient for others is just a way of saying "I don't actually care about this cause". I'd really recommend that you look inward and consider why you consider your own convenience to be more important than the lives and rights of others.
Not only have I read plenty about the Civil Rights movement,
By mplo
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:21pm
but people in my family were involved in the Civil Rights movement. So don't give me any of your shit, FungWah.
I'll also add that that bunch of stupid-assed idiots who insisted on blocking the Southeast Expressway also got into these big round hollow cement objects, and then chained themselves together, were not part of the Black Lives Matter Movement. One of the demonstrators who worked for Mayor Marty Walsh got fired by him, and she should have.
if, however, BLM supports that sort of tactic, then that doesn't speak so well for them as a movement.
Sounds like
By fungwah
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:58pm
a real threat to public safety.
And a bunch of traffic violations.
Probably we should endorse any means necessary to ensure that the roads remain clear no matter what, right?
Again - it's pretty easy to say "I would have supported the movement had I been there, after all other people I know did". But when push comes to shove it sure seems like what really matters is peoples' convenience.
mplo stays in the moment
By cinnamngrl
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:59pm
somewhere in the center of the universe.
Yup! That's right!
By mplo
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 2:16am
So what?!? I prefer it that way!
you don't communicate any information
By cinnamngrl
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 5:38pm
Your replies seem to disagree with your other replies.
just some facts for you.
on 1/15/15, rte 93 in Milton was blocked by protesters that stated they represented Black Lives Matter. All of the major outlets reported that. If someone disputed that, that's interesting maybe you could share the link. I was able to find information about the city employee that was fired. Thank you for mentioning that, I am disappointed to learn that the city chose to do that.
Blocking the highway is a desperate and dangerous thing to do, but black lives are in danger. I reject the ambulance argument because that ambulance could have gone from Easton to Brockton if some greedy insurance companies thought that Brockton deserved a level one trauma center.
I really don't give a shit what you say or think, cinnamngrrl.
By mplo
Sun, 10/11/2020 - 9:26pm
I don't reject the ambulance or other emergency vehicle argument, because I stand by my opinion that it's a legitimate one. It used to be that the organizers of demonstrations that involved sitting in the middle of the street blocking traffic at least had the good common sense and decency to make the protestors move aside to let ambulances and other emergency vehicles through, and with good reason: When a seriously ill or injured person is being transported to the hospital, when a fire engine is rushing to the scene of a fire, or when a police car is rushing to the scene of a crime, in which an assault, robbery, or possibly worse is in progress, time really is of the essence. Every second of every minute of every hour counts--big time. Even the smallest delay can be extremely dangerous in emergency situations.
Also, maybe more people should ask themselves: Suppose a loved one, friend, neighbor, acquaintance or co worker is in that ambulance being transferred to the hospital, or has another emergency that needs to be tended to?
I recognized that link that you provided for me to read, cinnamngrrl, because I read that article back then, when it first came out. I wasn't impressed with the protestors who insisted on shutting down the Southeast Expressway, got into those big cement things, and chaining themselves to each other, and I'm not impressed by that now.
me, me, me
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 10/12/2020 - 11:12am
This isn't about you. I don't think you understand what you are saying.
Oh, come off of it, will you, CinnamonGrrl!
By mplo
Tue, 10/13/2020 - 6:37pm
I understand exactly what I'm saying, so don't be like SwirlyGrrl and the other posters on here who try to undermine me. I'm a hell of a lot smarter and more aware of stuff than you and other posters on here care to believe, so don't get feeling like a martyr, too snotty or virtuous.
you don't work here
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 10/16/2020 - 9:44am
So what are we undermining? Doesn't it feel pathetic to type out curse words? What is your point?
this
By berkleealum
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:17pm
is the most honest and straightforward answer i’ve seen
respect!
Without looking at the
By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:28am
Duration traffic was halted between the two, this is just a shat comparison.
Further the busses were accompanied by State Troopers, whereas your comrades just walked onto a busy highway.
I appreciate the state taking
By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:50am
I appreciate the state taking the extra precautions when moving a biohazard through a heavily populated area.
Best comment
By jmeltzer
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 7:37am
of this train, uh, bus, wreck thread.
I'm no Pats fan, but I wouldn
By Rob
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:09am
I'm no Pats fan, but I wouldn't label them "biohazard".
...especially while the Jets and Giants are still in the league. ...sigh...
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