Hey, remember when everybody got upset because some protesters shut I-93?

By adamg on Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:27am

State Police shut I-93 north in Dorchester this morning so the Patriots could have an easier time getting from Gillette to the airport.

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Shutting down the expressway or any highway with fast moving

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:34am

Shutting down the Southeast Expressway, or any other highway with fast-moving vehicular traffic on it is especially way beyond the height of stupidity. At those high speeds, it's especially difficult to slow down, let alone stop, and further increases the chances of serious injuries and/or deaths.

It's not like the police cruisers suddenly come

By roadman
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:44am

to a screeching halt, or large barriers magically appear in the middle of the road (as happened with the protesters). They use a procedure called a rolling roadblock to slow down the traffic in a controlled manner so it eventually comes to a stop.

And, as the 'convoy" they're escorting to continually moving, unlike when they use a rolling roadblock to highway work, the delay to traffic is minimal.

The point is, however,

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:06am

that the Southeast Expressway is extremely tense anyhow, and shutting down traffic on it, for protesting, or whatever, just makes an already nightmarish situation a hell of a lot worse.

I'll also add that, since there are times when I've had absolutely no choice but to drive on the Southeast Expressway. Even at "off" hours, traffic has been slowed down rather horrendously due to accidents, construction, or whatever. Protestors who insist on blocking such freeways, however, tend to make already-horrific situations worse.

Please tell the Hub

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:21am

When was the last time you actually had to commute to a job?

I drove in with my husband and neighbors the day of the BLM protests. Heading southbound into the city was actually within the bounds of the usual mayhem, and we honestly didn't even notice anything out of the ordinary.

Removing the exclusion on the carpool lane has done vastly worse mayhem to traffic than any single protest or accident ever did.

And this morning? Traffic is still well off of the pre-pandemic peak on most roads. Not as clear as in May, but many office bots are still at home until at least January.

You're missing the point, SwirlyBabe!

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:05am

I work at home, but you know what? I've had to drive on the Southeast Expressway to get my car serviced by the dealer who I purchased my car from a bit over seven years ago, to go to Yale Supply and Lighting down in Dorchester to buy new needed supplies, and I periodically go down to Bird & Reptile Connection, where I purchased my pet Congo African Grey parrot, in order to purchase supplies, and to board her when I'm going away on long trips, or even overnight trips, and to have her flight feathers and nails clipped.

Having said all of the above, I've got no other option but to take the Southeast Expressway when I go to all those places, so don't go telling me that it doesn't count, don't try to undermine or underestimate me, and don't get feeling too snotty or virtuous. I worked at a job for sixteen years, which got outsourced, plus I had a supervisor who was just about as much of an asshole as you are.

Over and out!

You’re still going to the dealer?

By Matt
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:55am

For a 7 year old car? Can I have some free money too?

Are you kidding?

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:26am

I don't have free money. I trust the mechanics who work at the dealership where I purchased my car more than I'd trust a lot of these independent gas stations/mechanics. Anyway, what the fuck do YOU care who I go to to get my car serviced?

I am not kidding

By Matt
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:36am

I’ve done pretty much everything on a car except rebuild an engine and swap out a transmission. You can do no worse than the dealership. They are mostly dishonest.

Very few independent shops are dishonest. Their name is on the building, they have pride in their work. I’ve never been ripped off by an independent shop. The dealership has recommended work that didn’t need to be done several times.

Dodge

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:46am

I took my Durango for a recall to the dealer in Medford and they tried to recommend I replace my timing belt. I had to ask them how exactly they would accomplish such a task since my vehicle doesn't have one. They had to think on that one.

They then tried to charge me $1000 for recall work and wouldn't call FCA to to get it covered so I had to do that and make FCA call them and tell the dealer to cut the crap. So dealers I've dealt with are shady.

A lot of dealers are somewhat shady, although

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:55pm

some are shadier than others. The same thing goes for the majority of Insurance companies. I once got another car of mine serviced at a branch of the long-since defunct Monroe's repair shops, due to a brake problem. Not only did they charge me much too much (over five hundred dollars), but they put in a some re-built brake calibers, to boot. When I talked to a Toyota dealer service person about it, and described what happened, the service person told me that Monroe's shop had totally rooked me and charged too much, and that replacing the break calipers, especially with rebuilt ones, was absolutely wrong, and unnecessary, and that if I'd come there, all that would've been needed was to lubricate the calipers that were already in there.

A few years afterwards, I ended up getting my first new car. I've been driving Honda Civid 4-door sedans since, which I love.

So what? I had an independent

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:34pm

So what? I had an independent shop charge me for changing the PCV valve when my car didn't have one. Therefore should I conclude that all independent shops are shady?

Okay, so you know about how to repair cars?

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 6:41pm

That's all very well. Not everybody does, however, and I'm admittedly among the ones who don't know about how to repair cars.

I've had at least a couple of instances when i've been rear-ended, while stopped at a STOP sign or a red light, and, in both instances, I've used Tech Auto Body, on New Street, in Cambridge, to get the damage repaired. They've done a fabulous job.

Dealers are parasites there

By anon
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 8:55am

Dealers are parasites there to suck you dry and lie to you. I cannot wait for this bill to hopefully pass.

Wow

By lbb
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 10:16am

This has to be the dumbest derail ever, Matt.

post of the year candidate mplo

By Pete Nice
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:03am

It might get a runner up to one of LaTulippe's sexual excursion posts, but this is solid. Nice work.

Why...Thank you!

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:07am

Details anyone?

By Daan
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:55pm

Pete, given your defense of the legal extortion called details, I am reminded of the person living in a glass house throwing stones.

I don't really defend them I don't tihnk.

By Pete Nice
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 2:00pm

I haven't done one in 15 years. But they make some good money for the City while offsetting health care costs in contract negotiations over the past 30 years.

I second that post of the year nomination

By PeyoteEatingWat...
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:56pm

MPLO is the hero that UHub has needed for a long, long time!

Oh the Humanity!

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:17am

Occasional errands that can be scheduled for times of day when traffic is reasonable. Wow. How harrowing that must be to a retiree!

Try commuting downtown by various modes at rush hour for fifteen straight years. Or into the Longwood Medical Area.

Are you kidding? I commuted for many years,

By mplo
Sun, 10/11/2020 - 9:14pm

both to and from school, and to various jobs, both from suburban Lincoln, Ma, and in the city, for a good number of years, so don't get feeling too snotty, or virtuous like you always do. I'll also add that one of the reasons I moved from the idyllic suburbs to the city is precisely because commuting such long distances, and having to battle rush hour traffic became such a headache for me.

You may think you're hot stuff, but I find you totally arrogant, nasty, and intolerant of anybody who doesn't think the way you do. Public transportation around here has never been that great, either.

I'll also add, SwirlyGrrl, that the Southeast Expressway is the absolute worst route here in Boston. Not only is it rush-hour 24/7 on that highway, but it's got a lot of the most aggressive drivers, to boot.

More projection than a multiplex

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:22am

Good thing we got popcorn!

Go to hell, SwirlyBitch.

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:22am

Bye!

Warning

By cinnamngrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:41am

mplo can't tell compliments from friendly jabs.

Ha ha ha!

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:28am

You're the one who's projecting, Sweety-assed bitch!

Okay

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:34am

Whatever you say, "Miki".

Or is that "independentminded"?

It's both, actually.

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:20pm

It depends on the kind of website that I use, and the kind of mood I'm in.

OK ...

By adamg
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:30pm

Now that we've all gotten that out of our systems, please find somewhere else to vent, 'kay?

venting ok

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:00pm

misogyny isn't. It's actually possible to disagree with Swirlygirl withing being a sexist asshole. Any rules about that? Preempting the guys on this site going crazy, this isn't Swirlygirl but have you ever wondered why so many women remain anonymous on this site (and we exist)? See above and most responses to swirlygirl

hey listen, anon.

By mplo
Wed, 10/14/2020 - 5:17pm

I happen to be a woman myself. So don't go calling me a sexist asshole.

Curious

By Pete X
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:20am

What does the parrot have to say about the commute?

https://www.cnn.com/travel

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:33am

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/swearing-parrot...

Another place you need to drive to

By Irma la Douce
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 2:37pm

Anger Management Therapy. I recommend that you get into it before it becomes court-mandated.

Ahhhh.,.shut up, Irma la Douce!

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 6:43pm

Speak for yourself.

"office bots"?

By lbb
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 10:17am

Swirly, give it a rest. This is pretty shitty.

The point is this

By roadman
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:54am

Slowing down traffic in a controlled manner to give a convoy of buses carrying a group of people to a specific destination (in this case Logan Airport) is far safer than having those buses fend for themselves in the chaotic "free for all " conditions normally found on the Southeast Expressway.

The point is this

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:05am

I’d like to hire a detail to stop traffic and slow down everyone else’s commute so I can get to work easier but I can’t. Just because they can, and get away with it doesn’t mean they should. They should leave earlier just like everyone else or fly at off times.

Not to mention the police would laugh me out of the barracks if I asked them to do this.

Oh, I see. They deserve

By brianjdamico
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:27am

Oh, I see. They deserve safety that the rest of us do not.

Using a rolling roadblock in this instance

By roadman
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:38am

maximizes safety for everyone. Not just the bus occupants.

Wouldn't helicopters do that?

By cinnamngrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:44am

Wouldn't helicopters do that? Why should the taxpayers pay for an escort that disrupts traffic? Isn't there a closer aiport for their private plane?

The Patriots pay them

By Pete Nice
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:46am

please prove that. With

By cinnamngrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:48am

please prove that. With money or tickets?

Paid by the Patriots

By Hardy Har Har
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:31pm

“The escort of the Patriots’ buses is a regular, longstanding detail paid for by the team to ensure secure transit to the airport, similar to any other paid detail escort for motorcades or specialized material transports,” Dave Procopio, a state police spokesman, told Boston.com in statement. “Because we make every effort to minimize disruption to motorists, today’s escort necessitated a lane closure that lasted only approximately three minutes.”

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots...

Ever been to an event in Foxnoro?

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:34pm

Here’s a tip - don’t park in a non-Patriot’s lot because they pay the police that empty the Patriots lots before the others. Same thing here.

What about the other buses

By brianjdamico
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:18pm

What about the other buses that travel through the HOV lane daily?

Plus

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:30pm

The buses that used to get a HOV lane but now do not coming in southbound? All because, without any review, some special snowflake DOT wanker doesn't want to have to use the three non special lanes!

Unless POTUS redrew the map,

By Rob
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:31am

Unless POTUS redrew the map, Foxboro is south of Boston so they're not driving to Logan via Medford.

What's so special about these particular buses?

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:53am

If these buses need the road shut for safety, why shouldn't every bus get the same treatment? And every car and truck, for that matter?

Helicopters

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:35am

That probably explains the helicopters buzzing Dorchester this morning. Or who knows, could have been almost anything, a fire, and accident, a shooting, or whatever.

That's interesting

By Waquiot
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:41am

I was watching Sky Eye (or whatever) footage of the buses going up the Expressway, it it sure did look like there was moving traffic on the northbound side.

It depends on what time of day it is, however.

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:45am

Both the morning and the late-afternoon/evening rush hours, are extremely brutal, especially on the Southeast Expressway, where it's rush-hour 24/7, because it's always crowded.

????

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:22am

What do you even know about it?

For fuck's sake, I know plenty,

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:28am

because I've driven on the Southeast Expressway enough times, both at rush hour and off hours. If personal experience doesn't count, then what the fuck does?

Lol.

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:17am

Lol.

LMAO off at you too, SwirlyAsshole!

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:18am

: O

False equivalence, but thanks

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:42am

False equivalence, but thanks for playing!

Oh, sure

By adamg
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:45am

And I sure hope there wasn't an ambulance stuck in that traffic. Somebody could have died!

Oh, wait, I'm sorry, that was one of the arguments with the protests.

Well, you know what, though?

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 9:54am

This, imho:

And I sure hope there wasn't an ambulance stuck in that traffic. Somebody could have died!

is a perfectly legitimate argument.

It used to be that:

A) Protestors did not shut down highways with fast moving traffic on them.

B) The people who organized such protests would make the protestors move aside in order to let ambulances and other emergency vehicles through. When a seriously ill or injured person is being transported to the hospital, time really is of the essence. Every second of every minute of every hour really does count. The fact that nowadays ambulances are often forced to take a longer route to a hospital can and often does have rather devastating affects. Frankly, I think that before totally shutting down traffic, especially at rush-hour, people really should consider that there are people needing to get to important medical appointments, or get their pets to the animal hospital on an emergency basis, or to get to work on time so they won't lose their job.

It was wrong then, it is wrong now

By JASON
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:00am

It was wrong then, it is wrong now.

They shouldnt be slowing down traffic to let the Pats buses get to the airport. Its not like its a commercial flight. Its a charter.

There's a special lane on the Southeast expressway for

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:30am

people taking carpools, and for buses, I think. That's a good thing.

An ambulance

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:18am

That started out to drive to Boston after the road was shut when Providence was closer!

Grimace et al wanted to shut down 93 until World Peace was had.

By Section77
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:41am

This was done to achieve a real world result (get people to the airport), then open it up to others as quickly as possible. I understand if you disagree that it should have been done, but still a false equivalence.

false equivalence

By berkleealum
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:06am

this is true - in one case, the highway was shut by normal people seeking to amplify a righteous message

in the other, the state shut the highway because some sports guys had to get to the airport since their game was postponed on account of their star qb contracting an incredibly contagious illness

priorities, amirite?

What's with your sarcasm, berkleealum?

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:15am

I don't have a lot of sympathy for "normal" people totally shutting down traffic, especially at rush-hour and/or on a freeway, just to amplify and emphasize a righteous message.

Secondly, shutting down the Expressway because some sportsmen had to get to the airport was a stupid move, as well. Why couldn't they have been airlifted to the airport? They should've been.

Thirdly, berkleealum, I disagree with you. Over and out!

Hey, remember when everybody got upset because some protesters shut I-93?

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