Hey, remember when everybody got upset because some protesters shut I-93?

Where did he give a suggestion on how things could be handles differently? He literally said "but we like the Patriots", implying the dislike of BLM protesters so save it. And do you have any suggestions? Since silently kneeling, obtaining a permit to protest, succeeding academically to attempt to get into positions of power, donating, begging, pleading, crying, starving, etc are all inconvenient for folks like yourself? Get on, respectfully.

Ahhhh, get lost, citybabe!

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:32pm

You're so right! I don't like inconvenience, no matter what or who is inflicting it, and I never did. I've never liked protesting, and never will.

And there we have it

By fungwah
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:51pm

"I just don't see why I shouldn't be able to sit at the lunch counter just because a bunch of Negroes think that they should be able to sit there! How dare they inflict this inconvenience on me!"

You're missing the point, sweetie!

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 4:19pm

Things are way different than they were back then.

(No subject)

By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 4:51pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8[/youtube]

You're right!

By fungwah
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 5:42pm

Back then it was other people being inconvenienced, so it's easy for you to say that it was the right thing to do. But now that you're the one being inconvenienced, it's a big problem.

I don't care what you or anybody else thinks, fungwah

By mplo
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 6:50pm

In the first place, that was a whole different time. Secondly, people who are asserting their rights to sit in a lunchroom or wherever, and to be served like everybody else is not the same thing as holding up traffic and causing people to be late to work, important medical appointments, or bringing a sick pet or pets to the emergency room at Angell Memorial Animal Hospital, or wherever.

Also, there were more than likely plenty of other lunchrooms, etc., where people could go, who wanted to get a bite to eat.

"that was a whole different time"

By lbb
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 10:23am

Google "Letter from Birmingham Jail" and get some perspective.

You really need to read up more on the civil rights movement

By fungwah
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:03pm

I'd start with reading up on the Selma to Montgomery marches, in particular some of the arguments being made against them:

Governor Wallace denounced the march as a threat to public safety; he said that he would take all measures necessary to prevent it from happening. "There will be no march between Selma and Montgomery," Wallace said on March 6, 1965, citing concern over traffic violations.

Saying that protests for equal rights should only be done in a way that is convenient for others is just a way of saying "I don't actually care about this cause". I'd really recommend that you look inward and consider why you consider your own convenience to be more important than the lives and rights of others.

Not only have I read plenty about the Civil Rights movement,

By mplo
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:21pm

but people in my family were involved in the Civil Rights movement. So don't give me any of your shit, FungWah.

I'll also add that that bunch of stupid-assed idiots who insisted on blocking the Southeast Expressway also got into these big round hollow cement objects, and then chained themselves together, were not part of the Black Lives Matter Movement. One of the demonstrators who worked for Mayor Marty Walsh got fired by him, and she should have.

if, however, BLM supports that sort of tactic, then that doesn't speak so well for them as a movement.

Sounds like

By fungwah
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:58pm

a real threat to public safety.

And a bunch of traffic violations.

Probably we should endorse any means necessary to ensure that the roads remain clear no matter what, right?

Again - it's pretty easy to say "I would have supported the movement had I been there, after all other people I know did". But when push comes to shove it sure seems like what really matters is peoples' convenience.

mplo stays in the moment

By cinnamngrl
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 3:59pm

somewhere in the center of the universe.

Yup! That's right!

By mplo
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 2:16am

So what?!? I prefer it that way!

you don't communicate any information

By cinnamngrl
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 5:38pm

Your replies seem to disagree with your other replies.
just some facts for you.

on 1/15/15, rte 93 in Milton was blocked by protesters that stated they represented Black Lives Matter. All of the major outlets reported that. If someone disputed that, that's interesting maybe you could share the link. I was able to find information about the city employee that was fired. Thank you for mentioning that, I am disappointed to learn that the city chose to do that.

Blocking the highway is a desperate and dangerous thing to do, but black lives are in danger. I reject the ambulance argument because that ambulance could have gone from Easton to Brockton if some greedy insurance companies thought that Brockton deserved a level one trauma center.

I really don't give a shit what you say or think, cinnamngrrl.

By mplo
Sun, 10/11/2020 - 9:26pm

I don't reject the ambulance or other emergency vehicle argument, because I stand by my opinion that it's a legitimate one. It used to be that the organizers of demonstrations that involved sitting in the middle of the street blocking traffic at least had the good common sense and decency to make the protestors move aside to let ambulances and other emergency vehicles through, and with good reason: When a seriously ill or injured person is being transported to the hospital, when a fire engine is rushing to the scene of a fire, or when a police car is rushing to the scene of a crime, in which an assault, robbery, or possibly worse is in progress, time really is of the essence. Every second of every minute of every hour counts--big time. Even the smallest delay can be extremely dangerous in emergency situations.

Also, maybe more people should ask themselves: Suppose a loved one, friend, neighbor, acquaintance or co worker is in that ambulance being transferred to the hospital, or has another emergency that needs to be tended to?

I recognized that link that you provided for me to read, cinnamngrrl, because I read that article back then, when it first came out. I wasn't impressed with the protestors who insisted on shutting down the Southeast Expressway, got into those big cement things, and chaining themselves to each other, and I'm not impressed by that now.

me, me, me

By cinnamngrl
Mon, 10/12/2020 - 11:12am

This isn't about you. I don't think you understand what you are saying.

Oh, come off of it, will you, CinnamonGrrl!

By mplo
Tue, 10/13/2020 - 6:37pm

I understand exactly what I'm saying, so don't be like SwirlyGrrl and the other posters on here who try to undermine me. I'm a hell of a lot smarter and more aware of stuff than you and other posters on here care to believe, so don't get feeling like a martyr, too snotty or virtuous.

you don't work here

By cinnamngrl
Fri, 10/16/2020 - 9:44am

So what are we undermining? Doesn't it feel pathetic to type out curse words? What is your point?

this

By berkleealum
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:17pm

is the most honest and straightforward answer i’ve seen

respect!

Without looking at the

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:28am

Duration traffic was halted between the two, this is just a shat comparison.

Further the busses were accompanied by State Troopers, whereas your comrades just walked onto a busy highway.

I appreciate the state taking

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:50am

I appreciate the state taking the extra precautions when moving a biohazard through a heavily populated area.

Best comment

By jmeltzer
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 7:37am

of this train, uh, bus, wreck thread.

I'm no Pats fan, but I wouldn

By Rob
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:09am

I'm no Pats fan, but I wouldn't label them "biohazard".

...especially while the Jets and Giants are still in the league. ...sigh...

Per the MSP.

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 10:55am

The lane closure lasted THREE MINUTES. What a great comparison Adam!

A 3-minute closure causes

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:54am

A 3-minute closure causes problems for more than 3 minutes. How long did it take the jam to clear?

I dont disagree

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:21pm

But 3 minutes is not comparable to 2 hr.'s and 15 min.

7:30am to 9:45am.

https://www.necn.com/news/national-international/p...

I'm sure this was much more

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 11:00am

I'm sure this was much more structured and less of a safety hazard than having thousands of human bodies standing in the middle of the highway during rush hour.

worst debate ever?

By anony-mouse
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:06pm

Is there an award for worst U-Hub comment debate ever? This is a contender.

Who pays?

By Gary C
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:29pm

I was in Foxboro at about 9:45am the week the Dolphins played at Gillette. The Miami buses received a state police escort down 95 and off to the stadium. I'm guessing this happens every week when the Pats play at home. A) Is this really necessary? and B) I hope the NFL is paying for the overtime.

The teams

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 12:53pm

Do pay.

Same thing happens at BC games

By Hardy Har Har
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:02pm

Police escort for the visiting teams' buses between their hotel and Alumni Stadium and usually postgame to Hanscom or Logan.

I've also seen bands getting an escort out of the Xfinity Center

The college & pro teams also

By anon_wd
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 6:31pm

The college & pro teams also get an arrival escort as well- the college teams also travel with a local/ state cop from their area as well- which is 1 difference between the NFL and college

Kneel for the millionare football players

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:08pm

Shame on the state police for shutting down the highways for a bunch of pampered players who play in the National Felons League.

Bread and circuses

By Daan
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 1:50pm

What we know.

The owner of the Patriots visited a massage parlor which was located in a strip mall. Reminds me of the upstairs stress relief businesses in Chinatown that can include, I assume at a higher cost, a happy ending.

The Patriots company can afford it's own jet.

The short lived excitement of men pretending to war with each other is highly prized while basic civil and criminal justice is well, they're nice ideas but not worth spending more than a nominal amount of money toward guarranteeing these fundamental human rights.

Roman citizens were placated with bread and circuses while suffering was everywhere. Seems that many of us are still pretty much living the same way. The technology and amount of blood letting is different. But the values are the same.

Reminds me of the Star Trek episode when the Enterprise crew visits a planet where ancient Rome continued to the present of television. Maybe ancient Rome is still here, albeit different technology.

The police are tools of the

By Kinopio
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 2:20pm

The police are tools of the rich. Same with the military. Trump has peaceful protestors attacked so he can have a photo op. This patriots thing is a smaller example but still pretty gross.

Two points:

By lbb
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 10:42am

The Patriots company can afford it's own jet.

It can, but it probably can't afford two (and two were needed due to separate those who had been near Newton)
That jet was used to transport PPE directly to Logan when PPE coming in through any other means was being confiscated.

Xway Stoped for the Patriots

By Ellen
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 2:31pm

They better have paid a lot for this privilege. This has to stop. This is just plain bullshit.

The Patriots don't need or

By Rob
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 2:37pm

The Patriots don't need or deserve special escorts and closures to facilitate getting to the airport for their cushy charter to an away game - they could just get up early enough to take care of business (including Covid screening) like the rest of us.
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Special escorts and the like should be reserved for important things - like Doug Mirabelli.

I'm old enough to remember

By Ari O
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 2:49pm

When State Police said they wouldn't do that again:

Massachusetts State Police (via a statement): We wouldn’t do something like that again, certainly not with lights and siren. As a public safety agency, that was not an appropriate use of our assets.

Apparently this is different?

They don't care because they're a gang

By pcannon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 7:23pm

The State Police are the most dangerous, vicious, despicable gang of thieves in the Commonwealth.

That depends on who one comes across,

By mplo
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 2:19am

if one gets the drift. There are some State Police, or police, generally who are vicious thugs, and there are police, generally, and State Police who are decent people who care about others. Generalizing is never a good thing, really.

"In General"...

By Pete X
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 10:41am

...MA State police has stolen millions of dollars from the taxpayers of the state through a fake overtime scheme, and needs to be completely overhauled. In general, everyone in charge needs to be removed. In general all individual officers responsible need to be fired and forced to pay restitution.

Thank You

By Pete X
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:52am

Was waiting for the Doug Mirabelli joke. It came in late and a little fluttery, but it got over the plate.

Faux Outrage

By BU Alumn From W...
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:27pm

If people are so concerned about roads being jammed or blocked, then we should probably cancel the Boston Marathon, and certainly not have a red sox game on the same day. Maybe someone can weigh in on how this didn't cause delays getting injured the day of the marathon bombing? What if there had been twice as many bombs? How could ambulances have handled those casualties?

There is this joke of an idea that a peaceful protest or sports motorcade is somehow equivocated with terrible traffic that blocks ambulances from saving someone's grandpa from a heart attack or the cops rushing to catch a crazy murderer or a fire engine rushing to safe a building full of orphans being waylaid by traffic. Before the pandemic, we called that A WEEKDAY. Ever drive to the Cape between June - Sept on a Sat or Sunday?

A random protest or a third rate sports team isn't going to do much besides allow people on both sides to bitch.

Also, I'm guessing the dude who only goes to the dealer but doesn't trust small shops is...a little racist. But that's just me. We used to go to Urb Chambers for our Honda when we had a coupon or for the recall, but they are generally disorganized and hacky and overpriced so after the first year, went to our local shop for everything but recalls.

Well.....

By mplo
Sun, 10/11/2020 - 9:07pm

The Boston Marathon was cancelled for this year, as was the annual St. Patricks Day parade down in Southie, for a damned good reason: The Covid-19 pandemic.

I was on the expressway

By anon
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 4:49pm

and I didn’t see any traffic blocked. The buses had an escort similar to a funeral procession and nobody was stopped. Fake news.

You have to realize, however, that the link

By mplo
Thu, 10/15/2020 - 9:41pm

about the I-93 shut down, is about something that took place over 5 years ago.

Forward to more recently, however, if you drive on the Southeast Expressway, and it's smooth sailing, it's a matter of luck, because it's always been crowded most of the time.

Wow... this thread de-evolved pretty quickly

By MassMikMouse
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 6:15pm

I’m going to cuddle with a stuffed animal now...

Bad omen for the future of woke, pro sports

By O-FISH-L
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:19am

Not long ago, many of those same Boston motorists would have proudly volunteered to carry the Patriots buses on their backs to Logan. Now they are angry that the police briefly halted traffic for the team? At some point, this incident will be featured as a footnote in the timeline on the death of professional sports. Just reading today that our once beloved Red Sox NESN ratings down over 50%! NBA finals with far-left LeBron down 68%. If the local NFL franchise, the winner of six Superbowl Championships in the last 19 years, is criticized by its own fans for a momentary traffic delay, that can't bode well for the future of professional sports. Go woke, go broke?

Hilarious

By lbb
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 10:45am

I'm having a real good laugh trying to figure out exactly what manufactured issue has your butt hurt this time. Looks like "all of them"? Other people don't like sports enough and this is a problem for you in your little cabbage patch, really?

Hey, remember when everybody got upset because some protesters shut I-93?

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