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Arroyo: Social-equity lens needed for Boston dog-park needs.
City Councilor Ricardo Arroyo (Hyde Park, Roslindale, Mattapan) says it's way past time for Boston to begin installing dog parks outside the "high income neighborhoods" he says have them now - and that the city should be planning them first, rather than waiting for organized groups of dog owners with discretionary income to push for them.
Arroyo said today there are no municipal dog parks at all in the southwest quarter of the city - West Roxbury, Hyde Park, Roslindale, Jamaica Plain and Mattapan. His district includes a nine-acre abandoned playground in the state-owned Stony Brook Reservation that dog owners worked for several years to convert to a dog park, only to have their plans founder on the stony visage of then state Rep. Angelo Scaccia.
"It's a real issue for dog owners," especially now, in a city growing denser by the moment and with an influx of "pandemic puppies," Arroyo said. Not only do dog parks give dogs a place to socialize and get exercise, they provide a place that keeps dogs away from people who don't want to be ambushed by exuberant or angry unleashed dogs in city parks, he said.
Boston Animal Control Director Alexis Trzcinski said she is all for more dog parks, and also cited separation of dogs from people who don't want to deal with them. She said that while her officers can issue $50 fines for unleashed dogs, she said that ideally, they would couple any fines or warnings with education on why dogs should be leashed while out and about - and that that's harder to do when there are no alternatives, such as nearby dog parks, to point the owners to.
Arroyo was joined by City Councilor Matt O'Malley (Jamaica Plain, West Roxbury), who has seen two proposed dog parks in his district get shot down, one at Millennium Park in West Roxbury, where the city said it could not drill down for supports for required structures because that might puncture the lining that protects the giant heaps of trash buried under the park, and one along the Southwest Corridor Park, where DCR announced plans, then just gave up on them.
Parks Commissioner Ryan Woods said the city has money in its budget to build a dog park at Smith Field in Allston and that he has begun to talk with residents about a possible dog park behind Flaherty Pool at Roslindale's Healy Field. He added that Hyde Park in particular would be difficult for building a dog park on city land because almost all the parkland there, such as Stony Brook Reservation, is owned by the state.
Woods estimated a cost of $250,000 to create a dog park, which would include required grading, fencing and installation of a water supply, both for hot dogs on warm summer days and to aid residents with keeping the sites clean.
City Councilor Kenzi Bok (Back Bay, Beacon Hill, Fenway, Mission HIll) also supported the idea of more dog parks - and of converting the current ad-hock dog run on the Common into a more permanent facility. She said that some land under the ramps of Charlesgate would be ideal for a dog park, because it's not like much can grow there anyway, but said that would likely take some major cooperation between the city and the state, which owns the ramps.
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West Roxbury isn’t a high income neighborhood?
By Waquiot
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 5:06pm
Either Arroyo needs to visit the other side of Stony Brook Reservation or I’m truly ghetto.
Moreover, are Roslindale and Jamaica Plain areas in need of “social equity?”
That said, southern Boston needs dog parks.
You gotta be kidding. Most
By Notfromboston
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 5:31pm
You gotta be kidding. Most kids in this city don't have a safe place to play (without homeless, needles, or drugs). And dog parks are foremost on the CC mind?
Walk and Chew Gum
By Pete X
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 5:47pm
You can do both, yknow
But dogs come first, right?
By Notfromboston
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 6:07pm
But dogs come first, right?
Strawman
By Pete X
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 7:55pm
goin' straight to the devil
You say you can do both, but
By Notfromboston
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 12:09pm
You say you can do both, but maybe start with the Franklin park *playground*
Dog parks help get dogs out of people spaces
By YIMBY
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 2:59pm
Instead of having large sections of public space turned into de facto dog parks that exclude children, put the dogs in their own space and give back the space that was meant for kids to the kids. It seems like a win-win for the kids.
It's probably also a win-win for those people of color who have historical reasons to be a little skittish about off-leash dogs. (Hello, Ivy-league educated bird-watchers.)
And it's probably also a win-win for people like me who are just kinda annoyed at dog poop even though I kinda like dogs but also kind just want to not think about them when I'm going for a run.
Magoo sez
By MisterMagooForYoo
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 5:37pm
Magoo has a pooch named cuddles McCutesey and he is such a wittle snuggle bugsy. Magoo
What I want know
By SamWack
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 5:37pm
is, if all this space is set aside for people to park their dogs, will they be allowed to use space savers?
South End doesn't allow space
By anon
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 6:18am
South End doesn't allow space savers.
So many dog walkers and all
By anon
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 7:06pm
So many dog walkers and all breeds of dogs living all over the city and so much dog shit stained and stepped on on sidewalks. Even if the walkers pick up the shit it get rubbed into the sidewalks. Worse than ever. I am a dog lover but also a pedestrian and resident.
Nothing like a good old
By ZachAndTired
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 9:00pm
Nothing like a good old fashioned dog park post to remind you how many legit psychos comment on this site. Jesus.
Yes.
By crispino
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 7:43am
Preach it, brother. This may be the most highly concentrated collection of completely off-base and utterly inane comments I've seen on this site. You people are out of your goddamned minds.
Holy Shih Zhu
By Ben_Quahog
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 9:34pm
Dog parks have become the new bicyclists running red lights.
Bookshelves
By Ben_Quahog
Wed, 04/21/2021 - 9:36pm
I have no fur in this game, so the most remarkable thing to me is Arroyo's bookshelves.
Magoo sez
By MisterMagooForYoo
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 6:16am
Srsly. Amirite? Magoo.
I wonder
By Edwardo
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 2:40am
If a dog is attacked by others dogs at a dog park, is the city liable?
Last I checked, humans are
By anon
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 4:21am
Last I checked, humans are dying on the streets of this city. Dog parks? GFY
virtual reality dog parks
By anon
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 6:51am
Think about it.
I'm all for dog parks, but
By anon
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 7:21am
I'm all for dog parks, but realize you'll still have dog shit all over the city.
People complaining there is ....
By Lee
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 8:33am
... dog poop everywhere are exaggerating. I walk a considerable amount all over Boston and I see very little dog poop compared to cigarette butts, fast food packaging, scratch cards, masks, etc. None of these things decompose either.
Don't
By Edwardo
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 2:40pm
Forget the empty nips. If I got a nickel for every empty Fireball nip, I could probably pay off my mortgage.
all the cat owners watching the comments:
By anon
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 8:05am
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the city said it could not
By Refugee
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 8:21am
What structures are needed, besides a chain link fence?
I think that's enough?
By Parkwayne
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 12:55pm
If you go down a few feet, it's probably close to the cap and no-one wants to risk it.
A different question is where at Millennium was this going to go and why couldn't they move it to a non-trash portion of Millennium? For example, there's a bit to the north of the lower fields where I think it would be easy to put in a park on a bit of a sloped area?
City life...
By Presumably Sane
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 1:52pm
One thing I've notice about Boston politics is many people jump to a "what about me" posture anytime spending comes into play.
If we only had quality-of-life services or amenities that everyone needed or wanted, we wouldn't have much of anything.
Asking people to buy land for their dogs is not a viable option in Boston. There's little land and it's affordable to a few.
I have seen private
By anon
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 5:53pm
I have seen private developers provide dog parks for their residents.
There should not be a dog park in the common!
Private developers, private groups and dog owners should pay for dog parks not taxes.
And leash laws should be enforced and that should pay for more dog officers who seriously fine people who soil the public land.
No lie - two of my dog owning
By anon
Thu, 04/22/2021 - 6:04pm
No lie - two of my dog owning neighbors have yards. But where do they take their dogs to shit and piss? My front yard. They don’t even see the absolute f*ucked up this is and how selfish it is. So now i cover my yard and garden in a hot chili salad dressing to keep the dogs away. It doesn’t damage my garden but it irritates (not hurts) the dogs. So far so good.
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