The last of the disco DJs apparently ended his career on Kiss 108 this morning after bitching about how he was told to stop cracking wise about Demi Lovato's new non-binary status earlier today.
A bitter Matty complained that this is how he gets repaid for being the biggest, most non-lightweight DJ in the history of Boston radio, a veritable giant among lighweights, "bigger than Jess Cain, Dave Maynard and Charles Laquidara and all of the radio giants in Boston." And, well, he just wasn't going to stand for it. "I am the biggest of all time and they said, 'Shut Up Matt, stop talking.' Well I hope you're happy, because I just stopped talking. Matty out."
Mike Saccone got a copy of the audio ending of the 71-year-old DJ's career:
‘Matty, out’: Audio clip of Matt Siegel (Matty in the Morning) @Kiss108 apparently quitting live on the air this morning (via Kevin Doyle) pic.twitter.com/YToNubWkJr
— Mike Saccone (@mikesacconetv) May 19, 2021
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When you cancel yourself
By Parkwayne
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:16am
Is it still cancel culture? Good riddance to bad trash. I bet he's playing golf with John Dennis in Florida by next week.
Not sure about the trash part
By anon
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:39am
Matty has dominated Boston morning radio for decades now, and still does.
And if your comment is about the jokes he was making, he makes jokes about every topic. I was listening this morning, and he mentioned how he was told last year to stop making fun of Trump.
What he's getting at is that you can't make a joke about anything because someone, somewhere, will be offended. It's the same topic that Jerry Seinfeld, Dave Chappell, Bill Burr, and several other comedians have brought up in recent years. my guess is all those comedians are also "trash" to you.
Would be great to move towards a culture of "if you don't like it, switch the station." The problem with this, is that not enough people switch the station, and those "offended" are mad about that.
Punching up vs. punching down
By eeka
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:54am
not quite
By Jay
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:15pm
Matty in the Morning isn't above Demi Lovato. It's a horizontal punch when you weigh her status and fame against his maleness and heterosexuality.
Matty is 100% punching down
By NL
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:05pm
The problem is not that he is offending Lovato, it’s that he’s denigrating and dehumanizing every non-binary person in the world. Which is definitely punching down. Lovato was never the target of his jokes, just a place to start.
sorry is this a joke?
By berkleealum
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:06pm
please say it’s a joke
It isn’t about Demi Lovato
By tblade
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:56pm
Siegel was not throwing a punch at Demi Lovato, he was being dismissive/derogatory to the way non-bianary people choose pronouns. Lovato just happened to be the non-bianary person in this conversation, but it could have been any non-bianary person irrespective of fame or social status, therefore it was a punch down.
You nailed it
By gremies
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 5:00pm
In the Globe piece on this he says (paraphrasing) that he's worried about young people being influenced by Lovato and becoming non-binary. He's not a comedian who told an edgy joke--he's an ignorant puss-head. How hard is it to just call someone the pronoun that they choose? She wasn't advocating--just sharing.
Change the radio dial left or
By BannedFromTheRoxy
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:45pm
Change the radio dial left or right
The turn the dial argument
By Matty in the af...
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 3:10pm
The turn the dial argument isn’t relevant... he was told not to make jokes at the expense of non-binary people by his bosses at the station. The station gets to decide what kind of content they want to air. If he doesn’t like that, he can start a podcast and say whatever he wants.
Personally, I always find it to be a little pathetic when people throw these self-aggrandizing pity party temper tantrums. If you don’t grow with the times, they’ll just pass you by. If you want to tell transphobic jokes in 2021, you’ll have to do it on your own podcast. No major market station wants to broadcast that bullshit... nor should they.
107.9 is the end of the dial
By Kinopio
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 4:14pm
107.9 is the end of the dial though
How to tell ...
By ElizaLeila
Thu, 05/20/2021 - 8:17am
How to tell everyone you're old without telling everyone you're old.
Nah
By Parkwayne
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:11pm
You think the ratings are going to change with some other dingdong in that chair? The format, station power and marketing drive the ratings not some wizened creep.
As eeka points out, there's a difference between making fun of people and performatively trashing a deeply personal decision for yuks. What was his super funny joke he couldn't say about Lovato anyways? From the article it sounds like he was just saying he didn't think she should have the right to identify in a way he didn't like. Because he's an asshole.
furthermore
By berkleealum
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:15pm
this “joke” isn’t even new. they’ve been saying it over and over for 10+ years. it’s actually a meme on reddit now.
he mentioned how he was told
By Scratchie
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:13pm
Funny how that didn't cause him to quit in a huff.
Comedians used to make jokes about woman drivers, and stupid people from Poland. Comedians used to wear blackface and adopt stereotypical Black speech patterns to make fun of African-Americans.
Those jokes offended people, and those jokes became unacceptable many decades ago, yet somehow the profession of "comedian" has survived. Somehow, those poor comedians of the 50s and 60s found other things to make jokes about (the good ones, anyway), and their audiences continued to laugh. Somehow, I don't think that asking comedians to refrain from mocking the mere existence of non-binary people means that we have finally, at long last, run out of things to make jokes about.
"If you don't like it, switch
By Elise
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:32pm
"If you don't like it, switch the station" would be very off brand for I Heart Radio/Kiss 108. They are, quite literally, the station seeking for the broadest appeal, particularly among young people. If someone wants to have a career in offensive humor pop radio isn't it.
He has had a career doing just that
By anon
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:54pm
That's his thing. He says what is on his mind, and has dominated for years because of it.
If you want to say that the format drives the station, then why have all the other attempts at the same format failed so bad in the Boston market? That argument is statistically false.
People don't switch the station because of him. The data purely doesn't support your argument, and is the exact opposite.
Clearly he's been previously
By Elise
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 1:20pm
Clearly he's been previously playing within the bounds set for him by his employer. Again, Kiss 108 is a station for an extremely broad audience. I Heart Radio is never going to take the "if you don't like it, leave" approach. It's counter to their business model.
"He says what is on his mind"
By lbb
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:11pm
Then his mind is shit and doesn't deserve a loudspeaker to amplify it.
Sounds like
By fungwah
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:27pm
the people running the station (who actually have access to this data) don't agree with your assessment, since they're the ones who decided to reprimand him.
People still don't get it.
By Bob Leponge
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 5:36pm
You can make any damn jokes you want, any time and place you want to make them.
What you can't do is make jokes into a microphone that is in turn connected to a radio transmitter, while on the clock as a salaried employee, that the owners of the microphone and the radio transmitter and the employer paying your salary, don't want you to make.
Will be interesting here though....
By Pete Nice
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 5:58pm
I have a good friend who sells advertising for a local station. He tells me a guy like Matty is basically keeping a station like 108 alive (edit: by alive I mean making money locally as the station is owned by a conglomerate that makes money no matter what) . Not saying he should or shouldn’t be fired, but he is a force with a lot of peoples jobs and the stations money on the line. Will be interesting to see what happens here. In general the podcast seems like the way to go for someone as big as MAtty, but maybe not as I’m guessing his salary at 108 is much larger than he would get on a podcast at this point in his life.
Anyway my prediction is that he apologizes and continues with 108, (he is old/rich enough for retire though too and maybe a podcast life is in his future?)
Doesn’t seem like a podcast guy though....he is naturally a DJ.
Last of the Disco DJ’s ? No ,
By Charles —
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:14pm
Last of the Disco DJ’s ? No , I don’t think so-
Sonny Jo white and Disco Vinny were the True last Disco DJ’s of Kiss108
Yes, last of the disco DJs
By adamg
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:43pm
I wasn't making a comment on how good he is/was, but on the fact is he was still on the air up until this morning, long after his contemporaries were gone.
Well
By cybah
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:49pm
Disco finally died...
Yes it did
By adamg
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 1:07pm
We hope you enjoy the rest of your flight.
By DrewD
Thu, 05/20/2021 - 12:46am
By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
Matt in the Morning
By Ellen
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:46pm
It’s time Marty. Give it up.
Why? He hates John Dennis
By LarryW
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 6:30pm
“You’ll have John Dennis and Gerry Callahan going on the air and saying how they hate the president, they hate Jews or whatever they hate, and, oh by the way, there was a Red Sox game yesterday.’’ The comment was met with silence, and then Siegel said, “I’m kidding, I’m kidding.’’
http://archive.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/20...
"I am the biggest of all time"
By Ben_Quahog
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:27am
This is an insult to a number of much more innovative and important Boston radio DJs, like Oedipus and Arnie "Woo Woo" Ginsburg.
sure
By Parkwayne
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:35am
I'd even take Nik Carter or Storm Zebel over this clown.
None of them hold a candle to
By anon
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:21pm
None of them hold a candle to the reigning champ of Boston radio -- Mr. Lyndon Beyers
I never had any respect for
By anon_wd
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 5:27pm
I never had any respect for Nik Carter- as a weak Howard Stern ripoff back in the day- but had even less after seeing his whining pleading in Usenet group where people levelled some well-founded criticism of him
Also- no one ever answered the question of "Has anyone ever seen Rocko and John Osterlind in the same room?" from about 25 years ago
The 1990’s did have the worst
By Charles —
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:14pm
The 1990’s did have the worst music of all time and Nik Carter and all them lame grunge Seattle bands were all part of it.
Agreed. And with
By Turalura Lipschitz
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:37pm
Charles Laquidara added to that short list.
I think he's talking about
By Scratchie
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:38pm
I think he's talking about ratings, not "innovation" or "importance."
Yeah, probably
By Ben_Quahog
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 9:46pm
But ratings shouldn't be a metric of greatness.
They're a measure of success,
By Scratchie
Thu, 05/20/2021 - 9:25am
They're a measure of success, which is what he was referring to.
What is this radio thing?
By JayF
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:33am
TIL that Matt Siegel still had a show on soft adult contemporary radio.
I think it's a porn category
By SamWack
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 5:56pm
Soft Adult Contemporary Porn Radio. Aspirational and non-offensive.
"I am the biggest of all time," he said hopefully.
Oh noes! The anti-wokeness.
By tblade
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:33pm
I have long said that the people that cry the hardest and play victim the loudest are the anti-PC crusaders. Siegel complained about “anti-wokeness” on his way out and “anti-wokeness” and “anti-cancel culture” is just the anti-PC culture dressed up in different names.
Being “anti-woke” is almost always just a lazy attempt to deflect from the fact that you want to say racist, homophobic, mysoginistic or transphobic jokes/bad hot takes and you don’t want to take the heat afterwards.
I apologize to my anti-woke neighbors and colleagues—sorry you can’t tell n-word jokes at the water cooler or call Jim from accounting a f*g because he’d rather drink club soda than do Jaegerbombs. Sorry to politicians and public intellectuals for having to treat trans people like fully human, mundane members of society. Sorry for calling out your white supremacy when it is blatant and on full display.
Sorry that your masculinity is defined by tough guy “humor” and “telling it like it is” and said fragile masculinity is threatened when people push back with the idea of “hey, maybe we should treat people with dignity and respect and also acknowledge centuries of racism, sexism, and homophobia”.
Like who even cares what the content of Matty’s Demi Lovato joke was? Kids listen to Matty in the backseat of their parents car, there’s no need for kids who may be non-binary to hear “jokes” about a celebrities coming out.
Matty laments that for years he has been the #1 Boston morning show of all time but refuses to acknowledge that he is #1 precisely because of the bland, non-offensive content he churns out can be played by every minivan mom between Nashua, Worcester, and Providence. Spare us your martyrdom, Matty, keep it bland, and keep cashing those huge checks.
Yes!
By Theonlyjavy
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:52am
Very well-said!
If that's the case...
By anon
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 1:37pm
If you're right, and he's so popular because he's bland, then why don't the other "bland" radio shows, playing the same music, have decent ratings?
Legacy and habit
By tblade
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 3:08pm
This is a anecdata, but:
The 40-something white moms in my friend circle who drive kids to school in the morning? They listen to Matty because that is the same non-threatening morning show that their moms let them listen to in the backseat with their siblings/friends in the late 80s+90s. It’s nostalgia. I mean some of my mom friends listen to country, but if the kids don’t like country then the compromise is Matty.
Besides, how else are you going to win tickets to the Kiss Concert (Kiss 108 not Gene, Paul, Ace, and Peter) if you don’t listen to Matty?
lol
By R
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 3:11pm
yo matty give it a rest. you were fired because you are an ass and you have an ego so fragile you are threatened by Demi Lovatto choosing to identify in a way you do not understand.
He wasn't fired. He "quit."
By Scratchie
Thu, 05/20/2021 - 9:25am
He wasn't fired. He "quit." And he's back today. https://www.universalhub.com/2021/fraudy-morning
MMQB
By R
Thu, 05/20/2021 - 1:56pm
thanks for the monday morning qb'ing. see: "wed 5/19, 3:11pm"
Nice Diatribe
By Matt but not th...
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 3:57pm
I think it's interesting that you're attacking anti-woke people for being offensive but this entire comment is you attacking people as sexist, racist, transphobic, toxic masculinity etc. based on their view of modern political correctness. You're attacking people for making offensive comments based on stereotypes, but in the same breath stereotyping and judging everyone who disagrees with you on this issue. I thought part of the reason prejudice is bad is because you're not supposed to cast broad judgement on people based on a single characteristic that they have...?
Not everyone who takes issue with new standards of what is and isn't acceptable discourse is a Klansman. Not everyone who thinks that someone shouldn't have their career destroyed because of a single careless remark is complicit with white supremacy. That mentality - "if you don't agree with x than you must be y" - is the problem a lot of people have with "cancel culture" or whatever it is you want to call it - the feeling of being bullied into silence because if someone has a controversial opinion that goes against the mob, they'll automatically become persona non grata.
And before you stereotype me for disagreeing with you - no, I voted for Biden.
Lol
By tblade
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:01pm
Whose career was destroyed?
Also “cancel culture” is fiction and does not exist.
Here’s the thing. It’s ok to say politically incorrect things once in a while. It’s ok to not be perfect with pronouns or to be in-artful when talking about race, ethnicity, or gender because you know what? None of us are prefect.
It’s not about being perfect, it’s about how you react. Like if you make a comment here at UHub and refer to Demi Lovato as ‘she’ and someone here corrects you and says ‘they’, there is no need to get pissy and feel victimized. Don’t double down is what I am saying.
Look, I still mess up pronouns as a +40 hetero male. When I am corrected I choose to apologize and earnestly try to do better going forward rather than go on an anti-woke crusade. Like, when I call someone I just met Dave and I am corrected with “It’s David” I don’t go on a rant about “wokeness” and get all sad that I am “canceled”. I just say sorry, try to do better, and move on. I respect the individual choice.
For all the people that are saying “stop being so sensitive” I reply back: stop being so sensitive. Simply take feedback in stride and just try and do better and stop pretending like you are the ones being victimized because trans or non-bianary people want visibility and acceptance.
Here's where you went off the rails
By lbb
Thu, 05/20/2021 - 8:29am
Here's where you went off the rails. Civility is not an "issue", it is a behavior, as is its converse. Being female or Black or gay or trans does not infringe on others. Being a loud uncouth uncivil boor does.
Good
By eeka
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 11:46am
Fuck transphobia
She didn't come out as trans
By Boston_Bloke
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:06pm
Demi Lovato came out as non-binary. They did not come out as trans.
Nonbinary
By eeka
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:07pm
falls under the trans umbrella
No, nonbinary ^= trans
By mg
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:14pm
Nonbinary is not trans. No such thing as a "trans umbrella".
Nonbinary and trans fall under the LGBTQ+ umbrella, but they are very different from each other.
Source?
By eeka
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:23pm
I'm aware as a queer person and a clinician primarily working with queer youth that some nonbinary folks don't align with the trans community, and I of course respect this and defer to people's stated identities, but what is your source that there is no trans umbrella? This term is constantly used in trainings/academia/activism by nonbinary and binary trans folks. A quick google search would tell you it's very much an established thing -- which obviously doesn't mean all nonbinary folks like it or identify with it, but I'm not sure where you're getting that it just isn't a thing.
What terms do you prefer for describing the marginalization that's occurring here? I overwhelmingly hear nonbinary folks refer to transphobia or transantagonism to describe this experience.
exactly!
By Fenway Crank
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:42pm
this is exactly why Democrats can't win elections
because we constantly turn on each other
ugh
I'm decidedly unimpressed by the relationship skills demonstrated in this post from a "clinician"
Probably a good thing I'm not a Democrat
By eeka
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:53pm
It's not a party I was interested in in the first place (though I have voted for many), but if tone-policing and thinking marginalized folks somehow owe people education or deference is a hallmark of the party, count me even more out.
Those are, in fact, hallmarks
By tape
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:21pm
Those are, in fact, hallmarks of the party.
There are grownups talking,
By JJ3
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 1:07pm
There are grownups talking, sweetie, I'm sure you can find somewhere on this big ole internet to free-associate about elections though
what?
By berkleealum
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:17pm
icymi, the current president of the united states is a democrat - and he won the popular vote by several million. there have been 2 republican presidents in 30 years.
the thing is that the “diversity of thought” that conservatives love to bray about actually occurs almost exclusively on the left.
You sound...
By lbb
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:16pm
You sound exactly like the kind of deeply involved, active, politically savvy person that I would consult on winning electoral strategies.
...actually, what you sound like is another lazy hot-taker who understands neither the immediate subject nor the larger issues.
the main reason Democrats don
By tape
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 2:25pm
the main reason Democrats don't win elections is that Republicans have spent well over a century rigging local, state, and federal election rules and districts so that they win even when Democrats get more votes.
semantics
By anon
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:29pm
if someone previously identified as male or female, that is, one of the gender binary, and now no longer identifies as binary, they have changed their gender, sousing the term "transgender" can be appropriate. It's not limited to transmasculine or transfeminine.
There is a transgender
By CuteUsername
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 1:10pm
There is a transgender umbrella, it's a widely used concept. But to get beyond just "some people use that phrase" (and obviously gender identity is an area where people can have very particular opinions about terminology) the key thing is that the definition of transgender is "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex." A person who is non-binary is almost always going to have been assigned some binary gender identity at birth, so in that sense, a non-binary person is transgender. The word transgender (as opposed to transsexual, which used to be more common a few decades ago) was popularized in large part to be more inclusive.
But the important caveat is that since the whole point of non-binary identity is that people don't fit into simple black and white categories, sometimes non-binary people occupy a middle ground of not exactly rejecting their birth gender, and those people sometimes think that the word transgender might have misleading implications, and as such don't identify with it. So I wouldn't go around calling Demi Lovato transgender without qualification, but still, if you're going to talk about the transgender umbrella explicitly as a broad category it seems like they'd fit under it.
But I mean, the original word that was used in this thread wasn't even calling Demi Lovato trans, it was calling Matt Siegel a transphobe. And that's a different question. A person can attack someone who isn't actually trans for transphobic reasons.
*they came out as nonbinary
By lol
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:40pm
*they, and nonbinary is a trans identity
Trans*
By SouthSt
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 5:32pm
I'm non-bianary, agender, and/or genderqueer and proudly trans. The Trans* umbrella is real and we will all shelter all y'all if you want.
Matty being Matty
By BostonDog
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:03pm
In Porter Sq they had a billboard that noted, "It's just Matty being Matty"
Not knowing who Matty was, I appreciated the warning to avoid Kiss108 least I encounter this person.
"I don't care what Demi Lovato does!"
By Scratchie
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 1:44pm
So why are you talking about them on your radio show?
*them
By anon
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 12:30pm
*them
Right you are.
By Scratchie
Wed, 05/19/2021 - 1:43pm
Right you are.
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