That's Hall of Fame inductee David Ortiz

Schilling didn't. Schilling put up HOF worthy numbers in the thick of the steroid era and dominated in the postseason. I don't like the guy personally, but to pretend he doesn't deserve to be in is disingenuous, just say you don't like his politics. If you believe a "character clause" should truly keep him out, let me introduce you to Ty Cobb, Cap Anson, Rogers Hornsby and, the ultimate piece of irony, the BBWAA inducted pedophile journalist, Bill Conlin.

FYI, I think all PED players should be in. They were/are a part of the game. The Hall should explain it, not run from it. And, there's literally no reason to keep Bonds, Clemens, A-Rod, Manny, Sosa, Palmiero, etc out now that Ortiz is in. He's just as dirty as the rest, the only difference is, he was nice to the media.

Pretty sure those old-timers were neither

By MC Slim JB
Wed, 01/26/2022 - 8:26am

neo-Nazis nor vax disinformation spreaders. Fuck Schil and his long career of broadcasting hate and lethal stupidity on social media. It's not just politics when what you spew gets people killed.

Taking a stance on character is a good reflection on the Hall, and no one deserved more to tweet himself out of it than that utter turd of a human being.

LOL

By JPNative617
Wed, 01/26/2022 - 8:42am

Sir, Ty Cobb tried to kill a black man for shaking his hand, and when the mans wife tried to stop Cobb, he nearly choked her death. Rogers Hornsby was literally in the KKK. As I mentioned, Bill Conlin raped children. But, yea, go off on vax disinformation spreaders.

There's many more examples here, but it's not worth mentioning because you are nowhere near prepared to have this conversation.

You want to remove those people

By MC Slim JB
Wed, 01/26/2022 - 8:53am

from the Hall, I will back it. Character matters, and Schilling is a human stain.

Nice argument you got there: "We have let loathsome, awful people in the Hall before: why stop now?"

That's actually not my argument at all.

By JPNative617
Wed, 01/26/2022 - 9:06am

My argument is that if we're letting people in based on numbers, let them all in. If character matters, clean house.

I feel like you know this (or, at least you should), but you have some hair across your ass about me that compels you to argue everything I say. I thought we could all agree that all of these are all terrible people, but I guess not.

I'd say we're mostly in agreement. I

By MC Slim JB
Wed, 01/26/2022 - 9:16am

also think the PED users should get in at this point, though I didn't used to.

I disagree that vax denial is "just politics": it gets people killed, especially coming from a person that some folks (especially younger fans) look up to and listen to. But in terms of Schil's awfulness, vax denial is just the tip of the iceberg. He's an equal-opportunity bigot. The Hall is right to shun him.

Hint

By MrZip
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 7:52pm

Its the dude in the Globe byline, who should just move already, I'm sure a lot of people would help him pack.

Tomato Cans

By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:15pm

Where's the tomato cans?

Papi might want to bat one his direction as a celebration: https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2015/03/27/dav...

Gawddamn I love Big Papi!

That clown

By anon
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 7:49pm

I’d half the reason I canceled my Globe subscription a few years ago.

One of the most hated humans in New England.

Yay Papi!

By mg
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:23pm

and screw Shank. I don't know why he hates Ortiz so much; you'd think he was Ahab and Ortiz Moby Dick.

I'm thinking of a word ...

By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:26pm

Six letters, starts with "R" ...

And Papi called his red jheri curled ass out on it straight up.

RedSox?

By Rob
Wed, 01/26/2022 - 11:42am

RedSox?
Romney?
Rmdsvr?
Riyadh?

Mike Lupica summed it up a couple of years ago

By mg
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:42pm

https://www.mlb.com/news/david-ortiz-s-impact-on-r...

I don't congratulate David Ortiz

By Will LaTulippe
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:50pm

On his induction, because he doesn't need the affirmation of the body who inducted him, for they are petty and embarrassing.

David, you were there in October, and you're one of the funniest (expletives) ever. Thank you for everything.

Oh Shaughnessy….

By MassMouse
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 9:07pm

Yet, he does have a point. Not sure what torch the HOF is holding….

Surprising response

By SamWack
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 11:06pm

The Globe has a brief bit on responses from Schilling and Clemens. Clemens is predictable; it’s all about himself, how he doesn’t really care, hasn’t thought about the Hall of Fame in years, along with a bunch of self-infatuated blather that makes it sound like he’s running for God. Schilling, surprisingly, focuses on Ortiz, with praise and congratulations. He does point out, in passing, how wise and noble he is for doing this, but for him, this is practically self-deprecation.

Hey Shank, Festivus is in December

By brianjdamico
Wed, 01/26/2022 - 7:51am

It's not lost on me that he is airing his grievances about the decision of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, a select group of which is he a voting member.

His fellow voters decided that Ortiz was worthy of election, and he was elected even without the support of a local guy that you might assume would owe some loyalty. I don't pay too much attention to baseball these days but I will respect the outcome of this and every election this group holds.

That's Hall of Fame inductee David Ortiz

Comments

Salute to Ortiz

I will never forget

Shank!

Paywall

i assumed Curt

Article is about Bonds and

Wow

Roger Clemens took steroids.