Update: South Boston description posted.
An attempt to teach eighth graders at Boston Latin School how to deal with stereotypes ended today with school officials apologizing to students, parents and school staffers from two heavily White neighborhoods.
As part of a civics class for 13- and 14-year-olds in the eighth grade, students were assigned to write about stereotypes about their neighborhoods - with the goal of then discussing and dealing with those biases.
Many of the descriptions were taped up around the school library, where somebody photographed one about West Roxbury and posted a copy in one of the West Roxbury Facebook groups where people love to commiserate about how the rest of the city hates them, causing an immediate uproar that included one person demanding that the student be punished for writing the following:
To understand West Roxbury ...
To understand West Roxbury, you would have to be white and rich. The blue lives matter flags on almost every damn house. Those local stores on Centre street that are mad expensive for no reason. The Trump supporters. The anti-maskers. The old white people. The slightly racist white people. The Trump supporters. The anti-maskers.
To understand West Roxbury, you really gotta be there. The kids that play lacrosse, baseball or hockey, or all of the above. The CVS that laid off my sister. The Ohrenburger which I attended for 1 and a half years. The white girls who only wear white air forces. The Irish people. The people who get starbucks daily. That one star market I like time and time. The YMCA where Bryce Johnson gets those big gains. The 35 bus which I take almost every day. To understand West Roxbury you really gotta be rich and white.
In e-mail today, Head of School Rachel Skerritt and Associate Head of School Jonathan Mulhern apologized to the BLS community, if not the more outraged members of West Roxbury Facebook groups. Their e-mail referenced an apparently similar description by another student about South Boston:
To the BLS Community:
It came to our attention earlier today that student assignments written about various neighborhoods in Boston as part of an 8th grade civic action project were recently posted in our school library. The intent of the assignment was for students to write personal pieces that consider stereotypes about the neighborhood in which they live, with the ultimate aim of countering biases from within and outside of their communities. However, the impact, particularly in some selections depicting West Roxbury and South Boston, was one where students saw stereotyped and disparaging statements about communities to which they belong. The exhibit has been removed, though we know that this does not remove the harm that was done.
We deeply regret and apologize to members of our school community who were hurt or felt less welcome at BLS as a result of this display, and we thank those who have reached out to our school staff to learn more and express their concerns. While our committed and reflective educators aim to create conditions for students to share their lived experiences with one another, we recognize that displaying these pieces created an inaccurate perception that the viewpoints expressed are widely held or even endorsed by the school itself. This serves as a teachable moment as we continue to build our culturally responsive practices in curriculum and pedagogy.
One of Boston Latin School's greatest strengths is our diversity: our students live in every neighborhood of the city, speak over 40 languages, and represent numerous nationalities, racial identities, religions, and family histories that enrich our school and our city. Every day, our educators seek to affirm each student's pride in all of who they are, and create opportunities for our students to learn about their classmates' identities and backgrounds. We strive to ensure that students are able to discuss issues in our community in a way that honors the complexities of these topics, and that any public sharing of our thoughts and conversations fosters a safe and inclusive space for learning. Unfortunately, in this instance, we fell short of that objective.
Less than a week ago, our community shared in a unifying experience as our students revived our in-person annual Asian Night. Even through our year of remote learning, we found ways to celebrate diverse experiences. We will keep lifting up opportunities to affirm the cultures, identities, and common humanity of all students. The vital need for these efforts is demonstrated over and over again, not only within the walls of BLS, but as we witness division, hatred, and incidents of unimaginable violence across the nation.
Thank you to each of you for every instance that you contribute to the rich fabric of our community, and please reach out with any concerns. We'll be back tomorrow with our Friday updates, and appreciate your continued support.
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I prefer something like
By ScottB
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 9:46am
Students Taking Action for Superior Inclusion. Just call it S.T.A.S.I. for short.
No need to spectulate
By eeka
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 11:25am
D.A.R.E. already does this, as do many alleged "abuse-prevention" programs that encourage students to tell school personnel any time they're left alone, their feelings are hurt, they're punished, someone yells, anyone uses substances, without teaching anything about context in which these things are occurring or what's normal behavior vs. problematic behavior.
Public schools (of which I'm a huge supporter, but which doesn't mean there isn't a need for reform) are consistently the largest source of unfounded reports to the family policing system. I see stacks and stacks of them for children mentioning alcohol, knowing the correct names of genitals, being unsupervised for any length of time, being proud that they made their own lunch or did a new chore, being upset that they have chores, mentioning a parent having emotions, and all kinds of ridiculousness.
So keep everything a secret?
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 12:45pm
Encouraging children to talk about everything that is hurtful to them is healthy. An intelligent adult can process these feelings.
Yeah but
By Sock_Puppet
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 12:57pm
They're telling these things to school teachers.
Nope
By eeka
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 1:26pm
The best ways to prevent abuse are:
1) Comprehensive sex education, which begins teaching about consent beginning in kindergarten and mainly teaches about it in nonsexual contexts
2) Teaching and modeling methods of dealing with conflict such as nonviolent communication and Ross Greene's method
3) Teaching about power and privilege constructs
4) Approaches that teach children to listen to their bodies and trust that they know what they need
Practices that are not recommended are:
1) Teaching that police, government agencies, and those that report to them are "helpers," full stop
2) Teaching that any conflict at home should immediately be reported to the government
3) Any practices that go against concepts of consent and teaching children to trust their instincts and their bodies, such as requiring students to eat regardless of whether they're hungry, requiring students to sit still in a particular type of chair regardless of how they learn best and what their body needs, extreme forms of behaviorism such as ABA, forcing kids to "share," telling disabled kids to assimilate and pretend to be nondisabled and they'll stop being picked on
Also, the public schools and US culture in general are very much using the "teach everyone everything is a secret" approach, in that any mentions of sexuality or substance use are considered taboo and problematic. Schools are like, we won't teach you about any of this, and if you learned it somewhere else, then it must have been from an abuser or while you were running the streets, and can't possibly have been from a responsible parent who teaches comprehensive sex and drug education at home.
Nah Eeka
By Pete Nice
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 8:20pm
You are talking about stuff that 95% of the population has parents teach their children….maybe that’s the disconnect here.
95%?
By SwirlyGrrl
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 9:08pm
Seriously?
Source?
sorry I’m assuming this is swirl?
By Pete Nice
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 3:09am
My swirl block is on and working! (I can still see you responded but can’t see what you wrote. Hopefully this continues to work!!!)
Wait what?
By eeka
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 8:33am
Are you saying 95% of US parents teach something comparable to WHO CSE?
This is just absolutely not something that’s occurring.
But I do see stacks of reports from public school teachers who are “extremely concerned†that a child knows something at the age recommended for that knowledge in CSE standards.
Some that I’ve seen include children knowing the names of genitals in kindergarten, a 10-year-old stating they’re bisexual, a 10-year-old stating they’re non-binary, a 7-year-old saying “vodka†when a science class was asked what a container of clear liquid might be, an 8-year-old knowing what cannabis was when recreational use was all over the news, an 11-year-old correctly defining what rape was when a peer asked, an AFAB 13-year-old saying something about “it needs veins†when a peer was drawing a penis. These things are all at or quite past the age that CSE standards state youth should know them. Schools aren’t teaching CSE, and a lot of parents are, but certainly not 95%. The schools are getting vague trainings saying to report everything that goes on, including “knowledge of sex or substances inappropriate for age,†and they don’t know what’s an appropriate age and aren’t taught this. They don’t get the trainings from clinicians regarding how “better safe than sorry†policing only does harm.
Misogyny
By Sock_Puppet
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 9:06am
Don't say "AFAB" instead of "girl." Erasure of women is misogyny.
Found the TERF
By eeka
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 10:58am
The relevant piece here was the presumed external genitalia of the youth, not the youth's current gender identity, which wasn't girl/woman.
Had I been talking about someone's experiences as a girl/woman, I'd have used those terms.
If you brushed up on comprehensive sex education, you would know this.
(And BTW, referring to AFAB folks when that is the umbrella grouping you are discussing is inclusive, not erasure. If we have a reason to talk about all AFAB folks regardless of gender, that's exactly the terminology to use to include everyone. If we're talking about something specific like menstruation, we would want to refer to all people with periods, which is not all AFAB people.)
Preach it
By Sock_Puppet
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 10:44am
Auntie Ruckus
Found the terrorist
By Sock_Puppet
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 12:33pm
TERF is a slur.
https://terfisaslur.com
TERF is a slur that celebrates violence against women.
Do you want to stab me now?
Do you want to stab women?
Or just women who don't take dick?
No, it's not
By Kokoro
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 1:22pm
And you don't get to claim you're "oppressed" for being called out on your bigotry. The world can see how often your friends team up with the far right activists who want women back to being broodcows.
Deranged.
By tblade
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 4:06pm
Yikes.
Take a break, Sock
By adamg
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 9:44pm
Enough with the TERF stuff. There are other places where you can let your anti-trans hatred out.
Down
By Bostonperson
Mon, 05/23/2022 - 1:13pm
With the radical feminists!
TERF is still a slur.
Sorry just saying in general.....(not CSE "standards")
By Pete Nice
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 9:53am
And I'm not talking about "reporting". If a teacher hears something concerning, it needs to be brought up with the parents. They should only be "reporting" signs of abuse or neglect. All of your examples above don't need to be reported.
Just saying every parent has probably had some sort of conversation with their kids about what is and isn't appropriate. For 6 year olds its probably not talking about their privates, closing the door when they go to the bathroom, not to touch other kids (anywhere), etc. I'm guessing 5% of kids have parents to neglect this stuff.
Right...
By eeka
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 10:51am
You're making exactly the same point I am.
A sizeable number of families do not follow CSE standards. I do court assessments for plenty of normal school-age children from normal families who do not know the correct names of their genitals, nor of genitals they do not have. They've been told "not to talk about them." Kids are also told "don't touch anyone," then they see that peers are in fact touching either other frequently in play, to comfort one another, to assist one another, and they recognize that "don't touch anyone" isn't the community norm, but they haven't been taught that you seek consent before touching.
The kids who are taught CSE are reported for "age-inappropriate sexual knowledge," because teachers and even fucking medical providers don't know what's appropriate, and think it's inappropriate for kids to know the proper names of genitals. They think it's inappropriate to know terms for gender and sexual orientation (which CSE teaches in the lowest bracket, as do I and many families). I listed a whole bunch of things that schools should be teaching, and do in most civilized countries, that I've seen schools here in MA report as "age-inappropriate knowledge."
I know that none of that needs to be reported. That's the point. I am frequently contracted by DCF, CPCS, and private attorneys to assess families and expert witness for those things, because this state screens in most reports, and the people investigating them are not clinicians. The families get wrapped up in nonsense for months or years before it can be properly assessed by experts who say that of course it isn't neglect that a parent and child are discussing that a child is bi or trans and promoting the correct language for discussing these things, and of course it isn't neglect that a preschooler knows words for genitals. I think it's neglect (in a clinical sense, not something I would ever suggest reporting) when kids aren't given the language for discussing these things. I see a lot of queer tweens and teens who struggled for years because they had no idea there was a word for how they are and that it's normal.
Mandated reporting laws (which, BTW, have been shown to harm rather than help, and which many mainstream law schools and social work departments advocate for abolishing) do not require reporting of "signs" of abuse or neglect. They state that a mandated reporter can face punishment for knowing about the presence of abuse or neglect (defined as an action or inaction by a caregiver that did or could likely have resulted in serious lifelong harm) and failing to report.
Most of the mandated reporting trainings given to schools and programs though do not spell this out correctly, and do in fact promote "better safe than sorry" practices, which have been shown to cause harm. Schools and other organizations are focused on making sure they are not liable for a failure to report, rather than making sure they aren't harming children or families.
DCF's own guidance says it's best to let the family know you are making a report, but it also says "a reporter may not do their own investigation" before or rather than reporting. This of course refers to situations like when there are clear signs of serious sexual abuse or trafficking, that they don't want people muddying up their eventual investigation. But schools and others think it means you shouldn't first talk to the parents and be like, hey, your kid is talking about genitals/alcohol/whatever quite a bit. And reporters should very much be consulting with experts on child development as well as other topics involved. These ridiculous reports would not be constantly made if the person who found it "concerning" that kids are saying they're queer/trans would first send an e-mail to someone at The Borum or Youth Pride and ask for guidance, and get the response that it's common and normal for many kids to be aware of sexual orientation and gender identity at preschool age. Or, you know, if the schools and programs all had ample queer people on staff who would consistently be educating the program that they need to be inclusive and affirming of kids at all ages, and who would shut down the thinking that kids under 18 being queer is somehow sexualized behavior.
Reporters have massive immunity. Families can't usually get false reporting even looked into. I've been an expert witness for cases involving false reporting, which usually can't even get into court unless the Department and/or the reporter have also demonstrated other major missteps. In one, an in-home therapist was tasked with, among other things, taking a preschooler to their established classes at the YMCA, library, etc., usually without the parents. The therapist didn't like the family's religious beliefs and reported the family for "brainwashing the child, telling the child what to believe, not letting the child leave the house, not letting the child be around anyone but the parents, not letting the child have friends." Clearly we can see why this is knowingly making a false report, right, since the therapist can't possibly claim to believe that the child doesn't leave the house and go see peers? No, the outcome was that it was completely unfounded, but that the therapist must have observed something that led them to "feel that way."
I feel like this is a case of
By anon
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:38am
I feel like this is a case of only hit dogs holler. I'm white and well off and live in Westie and all the things this kid says are.... pretty mild, and accurate to a non-insignificant portion of the populace? Hell, the bit about irish and complaining about the stores on centre are true for me, I laughed because it's relatable.
The only reason you'd find this offensive is if you are racist, know you're racist, and are (like most racists) enraged that some person of color dares to call you out on it, because those people are more concerned about upholding their social status of "not racists" than they are about, you know, treating people nicely. Which is why instead of using the incident as an opportunity for dialogue and understanding, they throw a fit until the school capitulates.
I'm TOTALLY sure this kid is looking at this reaction and the school's reaction and really feeling like "oh man I definitely was mistaken in my observations, people in west roxbury aren't like this at allllllllll."
Who is outraged by this?
By anon
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 8:40am
I'll bet it's the guy with the "F*ck Joe Biden and F*ck You for Voting for Him" bumper sticker, who lives down the street from me here in WR.
But come on, a Blue Lives Matter flag on almost every house? I count only 3 on my block.
My issue is that this was not
By Anon
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 8:50am
My issue is that this was not the assignment. The assignment was stereotypes about your community and how to overcome them. It was meant to be an empowering exercise but some students did not get the concept. I would in this case blame the school for not addressing how they turned the narrative. If this were about Roxbury people instead of West Roxbury people I am sure everyone would be flipped.
We need to take what kids say with a grain of salt. We also need to make sure teachers and others are being careful if they are going to go down these roads. If you are dealing with sensitive topics you should be taking extra precautions to make sure guidelines are followed by all. Not just by those you agree with.
Feel like there's a lot of
By anon
Mon, 05/23/2022 - 8:10am
Feel like there's a lot of people who've never been teachers in this post.
It's not unusual for a project to consist of several assignments or standalone pieces of work, that are then built on top of with the next step of assignments. This is basic scaffolding and structuring so you can guide students through the steps from regurgitation to analysis. It's basic critical reading and thinking skills.
If this was my class:
Day 1-2: Write stereotype works, post so kids can read them independently, process them at their own pace
Day 3: Discuss in class: what do you agree with? what do you disagree with? is it easier to agree or disagree with stereotypes from other neighborhoods? have you had experiences to the contrary in your own neighborhood? what factors might affect how our experiences differ, in the same place? do these reports agree with each other or are they saying different things? how would you counter-argue against these stereotypes?
Day 4: pick another student's piece and write a response - figure out the main points presented by your peer and dissect them in a more formal essay.
Gave students assignment to
By Rob
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 9:02am
Gave students assignment to write on neighborhood stereotypes.
Students did so
That student wrote well.
Wrote well on an inconvenient point of view.
...
The assignment may have been ill-thought.
Posting them might have been ill-advised.
None of that is the student's fault.
Thanks, saved me some typing
By merlinmurph
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 11:33am
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Move Things Forward
By Productive Guy
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 9:14am
I live in West Roxbury. I'm a middle aged white man. I get it. I agree with a lot of what the student highlighted in the essay. I think the student gave an honest response to the assignment. And it shouldn't be wipe away (kudos to Adam for publishing it here).
The question is WHAT'S NEXT? What can WE, the residents of West Roxbury DO to help make thing MORE inclusive? How do we encourage kids of color to participate in our activities and FEEL like this neighborhood is their neighborhood as much as anyone else's? Post your POSITIVE CONSTRUCTIVE ideas below here and maybe we could take a small step to improving our neighborhood (not just the perception, but the reality).
It's official
By Will LaTulippe
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 9:37am
This country hates children and teenagers.
We're trying to stop abortions, why again?
No, WE aren't trying to stop
By anon
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 9:58am
No, WE aren't trying to stop them. Some forced birther a-holes are. The least pro-life ppl out there are the ppl that want to end abortions.
As for the kid that wrote about WR...he isn't wrong. It amazes me that when a POC brings up race whitey loses their minds.
WR has been racist for as long as I can remember. Is everyone in WR racist? Of course not. But WR has earned their reputation. Not only for their racism toward POC but towards anything that's "outside of the box."
FFS people that didn't want to die crossing the street were called commies...
Sooo
By SatansFist
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:06am
Did these kids plagiarize the former school committee members’ texts?
Also the assignment was neighborhood stereotypes, not insult people and generate hatred. There is a difference.
Stereotype
By J.R. Dobbs
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:10am
noun. plural stereotypes. Britannica Dictionary definition of STEREOTYPE : an often unfair and untrue belief that many people have about all people or things with a particular characteristic.
What do you think a stereotype is?
By Boston guy
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 11:02am
Stereotypes are insulting. The only actual reason this wouldn’t be a stereotype is that it is true.
To understand Mattapan
By Bostonperson
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:36am
To understand Mattapan, you would have to be black and poor. The black lives matter flags on almost every damn house. Those local stores on Blue Hill Ave that sell a bunch of stuff for no reason. The Biden supporters. The people not wearing masks. The old black people. The slightly racist black people. The Biden supporters. The people not wearing masks.
To understand Mattapan, you really gotta be there. The kids that play basketball, ride dirt bikes, join gangs or all of the above. The CVS that laid off my sister. The Mildred which I attended for 1 and a half years. The black girls who only wear black air forces. The Haitian people. The people who get nips daily. That super market I like time and time. The Blue Hill Ave Recreation Center near the violence in Harambee Park. The 28 bus which I take almost every day. To understand Mattapan you really gotta be poor and black.
Epic takedown…
By tblade
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:48am
…of an 8th-grade writing assignment. You have bright future writing op-eds for a young adult version of the Daily Wire and should be proud of that. Uncle Howie approves.
Truth hurts
By Bostonperson
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:52am
My friend
“i know you are but what am iâ€
By berkleealum
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 1:50pm
it all make sense now, Bostonperson is actually another 8th grader at BLS
This is what actual racism looks like
By Boston guy
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:56am
A perfect example of how “a few simple changes†someone mentioned above would actually make this a completely different thing. Shitting on poor Black people for being poor and Black is actually racist and in no way equivalent to pointing out the racism of rich white people.
This is what actual racism looks like
By Boston guy
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 10:56am
A perfect example of how “a few simple changes†someone mentioned above would actually make this a completely different thing. Shitting on poor Black people for being poor and Black is actually racist and in no way equivalent to pointing out the racism of rich white people.
wow
By The worst of Boston
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 11:13am
Really think you did something there don’t you. All you actually did is show how much of a hypocrite those pretending the student was racist are. Talking about how white people are racist is unacceptable racism but being extremely racist about Black people is hilarious right?
I never said
By Bostonperson
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 4:27pm
Anything was unacceptable.
I also don’t doubt the author’s experience.
Welp.
By iamblued
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 11:25am
Interesting choice to choose booze instead of, you know, Dunkin for a more direct comparison.
…Hang on my dog is barking.
I chose
By Bostonperson
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 12:03pm
Frivolous spending. Have you seen how many liquor stores are in poor neighborhoods? There are nips on the ground everywhere, just as there is Starbucks trash in other neighborhoods.
I would rather talk to someone in a liquor store than a Starbucks. I have nothing against people who drink.
Have you seen
By eeka
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 12:05pm
How many wealthy folks have a freakin full bar of stuff that literally cost more than I make in a month?
Raises my hand
By robo
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 12:31pm
They taste damn good too
Oh don't get me wrong
By eeka
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 1:30pm
I'm in favor of alcohol use, for those who can do so safely, and I enjoyed partaking of rich people's fancy bars when I had a professional affiliation that involved being invited to such things. Just...it's hardly the folks of Mattapan buying their nip bottles who are doing the frivolous spending on alcohol around here.
(And for fuck's sake, resident UH racists, it's so obvious you don't even get out into the neighborhoods the way you always choose Mattapan as your example of "the hood." Aside from Mattapan Square which is probably the only area of the city you've driven through and seen Black folks, Mattapan is largely single-family homes and has a high rate of home ownership.)
I meant relative frivolous spending.
By Bostonperson
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 4:26pm
Coffee is a few dollars and so is a nip.
I’m in Mattapan a decent amount, believe it or not.
I could have picked some other food corporation instead of just saying nips, but I would’ve been lambasted for that as well. It’s all hypocrisy at its finest.
nope
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 05/20/2022 - 12:52pm
Nips are for alcoholics and the money alcoholics spend on nips is life or death to them.
Reaching but ok
By Bostonperson
Sat, 05/21/2022 - 5:25pm
Not everyone who buys nips is an alcoholic, just as not everyone who buys coffee is an addict.
But an addict spending their only few dollars on their fix can at times be life or death and not be deemed frivolous. That we can agree on.
Who else is buying nips then?
By cinnamngrl
Sun, 05/22/2022 - 11:17am
Who else is buying nips then?
Somebody who likes to
By anon
Mon, 05/23/2022 - 8:16am
Somebody who likes to experiment with new cocktail recipes but doesn't want to commit to buying a whole bottle of some wacky flavored fruit vodka.
Somebody sneaking alcohol into an otherwise 'no outside alcohol' venue (sports venue, movie theater, etc) because you don't want to drop 18$ on weak drinks but will be buying the 6$ cup of soda/mixer there
Somebody who got the idea for 'make your own cocktail kits' off pinterest and is putting together stocking stuffers of nips+fancy rim salt+whatever
somebody who is reaching
By cinnamngrl
Mon, 05/23/2022 - 4:23pm
that's you, racist.
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