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Police: Man aims loaded gun at cops, drops it, picks it back up and aims it again before officer jumps on him
By adamg on Thu, 01/12/2017 - 6:19pm
Boston Police report a patrol in the area of gunfire in Dorchester last night ended with the arrest of a man who kept pointing a loaded gun at officers.
Police say members of the gang unit were patrolling the area of Southern Avenue and Elmhurst Street around 10 p.m. - following a burst of gunfire there 3 1/2 hours earlier - when they noticed a car with a bad registration with three men inside stopped on Southern with the motor running:
When the officers pulled behind the vehicle and turned on their lights and siren, one of the passengers, later identified as Guarionex Joaquin, 23, of Dorchester, immediately exited the vehicle and took off running while clutching at the waistband of his pants. Believing the suspect could be armed with a weapon, the officers gave chase. As the suspect turned onto Elmhurst Street, he suddenly turned back towards the officers and pulled out a silver handgun, which he then pointed at the officers who were now in close proximity to the suspect. One officer drew his department issued firearm while the other officer pushed the armed suspect to the ground. As the suspect hit the pavement, he briefly dropped his handgun, but was able to quickly pick it up and again point it at the officers. At this time, a third officer on scene, believing that the suspect was about to shoot his brother officers, charged the suspect, throwing himself on him, causing the suspect’s gun to fall onto the sidewalk within arm's reach. The officers struggled to place the suspect in custody while he made several attempts to grab the firearm a third time.
Police say the officers finally Joaquin secured, at which point they picked up what turned out to be a loaded .32-caliber Clerke 1st Smith & Wesson revolver.
Joaquin was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm, unlawful possession of ammunition and resisting arrest, police say.
Innocent, etc.
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Additional charges?
Could he be charged with, say, assault with a deadly weapon for pointing the gun at the officers?
Great job by BPD to end this dangerous situation without anyone being hurt.
I would think he could be
I would think he could be charged with brandishing. I don't know if brandishing can rise to the level of assault without actually being fired (or pistol whipped), I'm no lawyer.
that is
terrifying.
Almost any other city
And the guy would have been shot by Police at first sight of a gun pointed their way. It's amazing (in a good way) that Boston officers are so good about apprehending without bloodshed.
Nice job, BPD.
YES! good job BPD!
YES! good job BPD!
i am one of the LARGEST detractors of the police in america to the point of overt hatred and calling them pigs, but i absolutely have to laud BPD in this scenario. we need more police like this who are willing to avoid causing death, even when it's difficult.
nobody would have blamed them for shooting-- but they didnt shoot. and now, we don't have to question their story about how the perpetrator "pulled a gun" and made them fear for their lives.
BPD's response to fear is bravery rather than lethal force. that's why i'm here posting this at all-- even as someone who hates the police fiercely, i want to applaud good behavior.
glad we have this police force.
Yep
My sentiments as well. Those guys are professionals. They showed how it can be done.
Public commendation
Someone should get a commendation every time they manage to apprehend someone pointing a gun, without anyone (including the assailant) getting seriously injured.
Just FYI, the weapon used is
Just FYI, the weapon used is NOT a Smith and Wesson revolver. It is a "Clerke 1st" revolver chambered in a round called the .32 S&W (introduced in 1878 for the Smith & Wesson Model 1 1/2 revolver). This round was considered very weak even in the 19th century when it was designed, and most people that died from getting shot with this round back in the day died from the subsequent infection, and not the actual wound.
The Clerke 1st brand is kinda interesting to me because of just how utterly shitty these revolvers were. " Since the 1968 Gun Control Act, and similar subsequent melt laws like the notorious South Carolina law, were intended to disarm poor people and render them vulnerable, that act immediately stopped the import of the good cheap little RG revolvers manufactured in Germany. Until RG set up manufacturing operations in Miami in the mid 1970s, the cheap revolver gap got filled by a Santa Monica, California Company doing business as Clerke Technicorp."
The Clerke revolvers were made in the late 60's to late 70's and were made out of pot metal with a steel barrel sleeve. The poor construction of these revolvers meant that it could not handle even a weak modern round, and thus why they were chambered in the (even then obsolete) .32S&W and .22. The firing pin was known to flatten after only a few rounds, so if the above specimen had seen some prior use, it may not even work today.
Knowledge of guns...
1...is a rare thing 'round these parts. It's something that you seem to possess, at least to some extent.
2...would be useful to all the gun-control crowd, especially if they ever choose to engage in serious, informed debate over it. Cain't say I've seen suchlike hereabouts.
Close to 100%
of feverish anti-gun people know nothing about guns, have never fired a gun, and are woefully ignorant/misinformed on current gun law on the books. Many of their suggestions are actually current law which is not being enforced, or in direct violation of the 2nd Amendment.
Really the anti-gun nuts need to focus their efforts on repealing the 2nd Amendment, and not enacting these ticky-tack laws that convolute things for legit gun owners and do nothing to stop the illegal flow of guns to criminals. Laws like that lead to drawn out legal battles, protests, etc etc etc. Just repeal the 2nd Amendment if that's what you want. Good luck.
Also irrelevant here
1. As a gun owner, I'm tired of the "oh, that's not a lethal gun - look at my gun its bigger!" banter. Why? Because ...
2. It is irrelevant. It is irrelevant to the cops involved here because I'm sure cops have ample time during an incident to take a picture and download a comment stream from a discussion on a gun lovers board about the history of the weapon and how it isn't a *real* gun, etc.
3. This gun can still cause injury and death. It may not be a fun or immediate death, but it is still a gun and it can still kill. Nobody gives a crap about "oh its a weak round" and "look at my manlier round". It is a gun. It does what guns do when it works. Minimizing the hazard it represents to law enforcement and parents of toddlers and schools by declaring it non lethal or non dangerous is a game played by people who like to pretend that guns aren't dangerous at all. Minimizing the danger is a fatal mistake - like that retired columnist in Maine. Like the moron that tried to tell me that my gun couldn't take down a human because it wasn't lethal - never mind that I had hunted and taken large game with it. This "not dangerous" is a ripe combination of macho nonsense and gaslighting at its finest.
You're absolutely right, but
You're absolutely right, but your post is a total non-sequitur. DuckingA wasn't minimizing the threat of the gun, he/she was giving informative backstory and correcting an error Adam made in his description of the weapon (it's not made by S&W).
BPD appreciation day?
Sign me up!
These guys are the the best. They f'ing take the guns away physically from scum perps. No police shootings.
Bad ass.
Keep up the great work, it's appreciated!
BTW, BPD were the best growing up in the 80's too.
They might grab your beers if you didn't run quick but they didn't douche out like the Staties or MDC!
well i have no problem calling out the police
when they do something bad
hopefully i remember to chime in when they do something good too, so heres me chiming in with a good job BPD. although i do frequently tout my decent experiences w MA cops to people, even if i dont remember to here.
that being said f the police, etc etc
Restrained use of lethal force in the face of lethal force
Many Boston police officers take on the risk of disarming an armed suspect without using lethal force. God bless them and keep the safe.