
An apoplectic citizen complains about these new air conditioners mounted on the rear of the building at 17 Greenwich Park, right on one of the South End's historic alleys - right behind that portable toilet:
New Air conditioning units clearly visible from the public way within the south end are not only an eye sore but also maybe a violation I have Southend historic preservation. Other projects in the area have located there air conditioning units very low out of sight
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Complain all you want...
By Katie
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 8:15am
Aside from the poor spelling and grammar of this user's complaint ... he/she may complain all they want, but nothing beats a temperature and humidity controlled house at 68 degrees when it's 100 degrees outside.
I'm half-serious here...
By tcf098
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:44am
Can't they make those mini-spilt systems with a brick covering on them so that they blend in more?
Sure
By anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:57am
Maybe the people in the Historical Society can pay for it.
Why would the Historical Society have to?
By Neal
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:09pm
And by "Historical Society", I assume you mean the South End Historical Society. It is a private organization which has nothing to do with the regulation of the South End Landmark District codes. You probably mean the South End Landmark District Commission, a subdivision of the City of Boston, which does have regulatory authority.
If you...
By johnmcboston
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:07pm
As soon as you put a sticker on your car so it looks like you're driving a horse and buggy.
Can you paint them?
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:59pm
Brick red paint + sand + masking tape mortar lines = urban cammo
Better head
By Sock_Puppet
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 8:33am
They've got to go!
Evolution
By BlackKat
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 8:36am
Whoever made this Citizen's Complaint should be forced to live in the porta potty. Living in a building without HVAC is like wearing whitey tighties after one has discovered boxer shorts.
No way. We should be
By anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:30am
No way. We should be celebrating the inventor for giving us the amazing gift of an almost unlimited source of schadenfreude. Seriously, bravo to you, nameless app developer!
Not the App the Complaint
By BlackKat
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:18pm
You may have mistaken what was being referred to.
Ah, sorry. I read too quick.
By anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:33pm
Ah, sorry. I read too quick.
There is no way
By bulgingbuick
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 8:57am
I should have to see those heinous ac units while using my port a potty.
I truly wish that one of the
By mdecast
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:11am
I truly wish that one of the biggest concerns in my life was the view and location of an air conditioning unit. It must be nice to have those kind of "tough" problems to deal with.
C.C.R.E.A.M
By Raekwon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 3:20pm
Climate control rules everything around me
C.C.R.E.A.M
Get that condenser coil
latent latent heat y'all
*smh*
By cybah
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:15am
Some people clearly have too much time on their hands and not enough going on in their own lives....
Waaaaaay to much time!
By Garbageman
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 2:21pm
Same people here who love to tell everyone how to live their lives.
ie: you shouldn't own a car, you should walk or ride a bike because you take up all the parking spaces in the City (and they don't even live in the City).
Bike riding
By Doogie
Fri, 04/04/2014 - 2:33pm
is way too dangerous in the City, drive a car.
out to the burbs and stay
By anon
Fri, 04/04/2014 - 3:09pm
out to the burbs and stay there.
I'd like to register a complaint
By Brian Riccio
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:16am
In which I ask how can someone so ignorant of the ways of proper grammar be trusted to preserve our south end? Sowa?
Those aren't a/c units. They
By More credible w...
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:16am
Those aren't a/c units. They are condensers for a mini-split system. Provides heat and cooling using less than half the electricity of traditional electric baseboard and a window unit. This person is being green. Shrinking their carbon footprint and no doubt cutting their utility bill in half. Just had these installed in my condo and the condensers are much quieter than an a/c unit and are environmentally responsible. Seriously - do people not think about the fact that these buildings were built 100+ years ago and they have to be retrofit.
+10 for username
By cybah
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:23am
LOL @ your username. This is great
Hall of Fame
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:28am
Right up there with Anonymous grabbing anonymous as his handle.
OCD versus Asthma, Sleep Disorders, Heart Disease ...
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:28am
Most people install these for comfort. They also install them when they do shift work and when they need to get a good night's sleep in the summer.
I didn't have them in my house because I don't like them ... but the combination of asthma and my husband's health issues led us to install one as both of our doctors recommended them.
As the population ages, health concerns will trump the neighborhood OCD watch not wanting to see them.
Hmm...
By nothanks
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:26am
Maybe look up what OCD actually is. It doesn't usually have much to do with stuff like this.
Different forms and expressions of the pathology
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:20am
Throwing continuous fits over fonts on street signs and policing your neighborhood for air conditioners is obsessive, compulsive and disordered. An extension of the "checking on things" problem to the neighborhood environment, rather than a small apartment.
OCD may not be the only problem involved, but this sort of checking on things can be a manifestation.
Stenography?
By anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:38am
What about stenographic records?
Or automobilephilia? Or
By anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 1:51pm
Or automobilephilia? Or Meleagris gallopavo liberatus?
Actually, no it's not. Being
By Whatev
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 1:43pm
Actually, no it's not. Being a cantankerous busybody and telling other people what to do with their property has absolutely nothing to do with OCD. At the very best, it's a massive, massive stretch.
Just because there are worse
By anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:20am
Just because there are worse options doesn't make these green.
It would be greener to use a box fan. Or nothing at all.
Those are not just for
By More credible w...
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:50pm
Those are not just for cooling. We live in Boston and you have to heat your home in the winter. You would be hard pressed to find a cheaper alternative to heat your home. Yes, they are green.
Does this model heat?
By avjudge
Fri, 04/04/2014 - 12:02pm
I have mini-splits that are AC only. I don't know this particular model, so it may do heating, but it may not.
Those things are great.
By Chris Rich
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:23am
It's a newer energy efficient design.
Maybe the goob would prefer the return of the hulking unit that must have sat on that bricked in mount area to the right.
And that casement window. That is NOT in keeping with this historic alley saturated with historic wino pee and the profoundly historic meanderings of rats and pigeons.
HUH
By ElizaLeila
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 9:29am
Apparently the complainant was OK with whatever was on the shelf to the right of the rightmost LG Unit because that pre-dates these new units.
And they were presumably OK with whatever filled the now closed opening above the leftmost LG Unit.
What's the difference? All new shiny plastic bits as opposed to weathered plastic bits from the historically significant 1980's? (I'm assuming that when the support and openings were installed, but they could have been from the more modern 90's for all we know)
I'm surprised they're not complaining about the cable/internet boxes on the building nor the horrifically infilled window below the leftmost LG Unit (tucked behind the 'restroom'.
Historic Alley. IT'S AN ALLEY. It's meant to be the behind the scenes, jackalope.
I have an idea.
By Bob Leponge
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 3:52pm
Before reaming the complainer, how about we look up the regs and see if the units in question re in violation or not? That shouldn't be all that difficult. When you buy a property with landmark designation or in a designated historic district, you get certain benefits and you take on certain obligations. If the regs are unreasonable, then we change the regs. But complaining about the person who asks for them to be enforced consistently is not really the answer.
(note: I have no idea if these a/c units are in violation or not, so I don't personally have an opinion about whether either the person who installed them or the person who complained about them is out of line.)
Maybe
By ElizaLeila
Fri, 04/04/2014 - 9:36am
Maybe the complainer should look up the regs themself before making said complaint. I suspect no regs have been violated thus my ability in reaming the complainer.
Seriously, this is not a shoot first and ask questions later kind of situation. The world is not ending because they are there so there is time for the complainer to do their own research.
I'll take it back if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
The "offending" location
By Neal
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:26am
Here. It fronts Columbus Ave at Greenwich Park. Just because there are landmarks regulations doesn't mean that the property owner didn't get approval for the units from SELDC. A variance in a case like this would likely be granted. A side note: imagine the horror that this person will face upon learning that, in this case, Greenwich is pronounced phonetically (not like the places in England and Connecticut), but like Green-wich, as in the now defunct town that was located at what is now the bottom of the Quabbin Reservoir.
Green-wich
By merlinmurph
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:42am
Pronounced like the old old old old Heineken radio ads (80's maybe??)
Ouch, I'm old
Check out the front view
By SB B
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:47am
If you google the address and look at the front view of this section of the street there are 2 homes that have had the traditional (and I think beautiful!) brownstone stairs removed. No Citizens Complaints about that?? Assume this was done some time ago and would not be allowed under current neighborhood association scrutiny.
Once again,
By Bob Leponge
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 3:46pm
It's not the neighborhood associations, which are private, non-governmental organizations, that have any say in the matter. Enforcing historical district and landmark regulations is up to the city.
Replaced?
By ElizaLeila
Fri, 04/04/2014 - 9:32am
It looks like the two smaller condensing units, now wall-hung, have replaced the one larger that was sitting on the ground.
They're probably now on the wall to avoid snow build up which can adversely affect these units. And the two smaller units are likely more efficient than the one being replaced. And by installing two, they can handle more than one zone or perhaps apartment unit, further increasing efficiency.
and... cars and trash cans
By anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:59am
are somehow not a problem?
If I lived in a "historic district" I'd want to completely ban cars and only allow horses and carriages.
Not going far enough
By adamg
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:04am
I'd want to see women required to wear bustles and carry parasols and men ordered to wear top hats and cravats and carry jaunty canes. I mean, they knew it was a historic district when they moved in ...
Beware the Red Hour
By SwirlyGrrl
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:24am
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9Wxov9lQM[/youtube]
So fancy!
By Anon
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:23am
These new South Enders are so fancy! Apparently a little white box IN AN ALLEY under a porch isn't as aesthetically pleasing as they would like. Does that shade of white clash with the white trim on your Maclaren stroller that you leave chained to your historic brownstone's front steps (talk about an eyesore)?
I have a question then for the complainant:
Why did your Mumsy and Daddy buy you a condo that OVERLOOKS A FREAKIN' ALLEY?!
There plenty of fancy buildings in the South End that do not overlook alleys.
Perhaps your complaint should be against Mumsy and Daddy.
Pish posh! No self respecting
By Miss Modular
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 4:31pm
Pish posh! No self respecting South Ender would push a Maclaren! Stokke or Bugaboo, please, preferably with the optional Missoni accesories. There should be a law!
Historic Rent
By Covertequation
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:29am
Let's bring rents down to historic levels before worrying about the historic integrity of the alley.
It's an alley
By Whatev
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 1:40pm
It's an alley.
That's what alleys are there for.
Jesus. I'm sure the complainer is happy to roast indoors when it's 90 degrees outside?
I suspect this complaint is not going anywhere
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 3:29pm
South End Landmarks does often crack down on non-historic additions that are visible from public streets, typically the front, sides and roof lines of the building, but not the rear and on alleyways, for the simple reason that modern stuff like HVAC and trash cans and such have to go somewhere. The idea is to make sure owners retain some level of Victorian character to the buildings, e.g., no hot-pink paint jobs, not create a 19th-century Boston version of Colonial Williamsburg.
Some Air Conditioning Units Can Be Very Relaxing To See And Hear
By Elmer
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:01pm
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