The Globe reports on a plan to extend resident-only parking to weekends in part of the neighborhood in an attempt to deal with too many cars.
In other parts of the city, seven day resident-only parking restrictions are common. Most neighborhoods in central Boston have it, including the South End, Back Bay, Beacon Hill, and North End. But Southie is Southie ...
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The funny thing...
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 5:31pm
Bostonrose48 and Patricia's example elderly couple would be much, much better served if the city implemented real parking reform and started charging the proper price for parking in our limited street resource.
It will become much easier to find a parking space when the price is right, rather than when the price is too low.
Affordability can be handled on a case-by-case basis for those in need, while giving clear price signals to those with choice in the matter.
The fact that Bostonrose48 and Patricia oppose real parking reform is more than enough of a clue to tell us that their real agenda is something else. Sucks to have to be so cynical about this, but it's hard to escape the conclusion that the two of them are not being completely on the level with us here.
I am not opposed to parking
By Bostonrose48
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 6:48pm
I am not opposed to parking reform. I have said if there was an option to pay for a space for them I would do so.I am not expecting parking to be free I will gladly pay for it. The city is not what it was when they were younger I get that and so do they. No one is expecting free. What I am saying is there is absolutely no option to pay for parking. None what so ever, there aren't any lots nearby or any private spaces available. On street parking is the only option in the area. Please explain how I am opposed to parking reform.
So get them the handicapped space already
By Bob Leponge
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 7:05pm
You have said that there is a space where they park now, that is close enough to their house. You have said that they are limited in the hours that they can come and go, because they need to get back to that space before the spaces fill up. Why not just get that space designated as a handicapped space. Forget messing with the MBTA and getting them to move a bus stop, or any other hassles. Seems like that one thing alone would be an improvement.
I don't live in Southie but I do know my way around it to some degree; are there really parts of the neighborhood where nobody within a block or two has a driveway or a side yard or a pay lot?
Ok
By anon
Tue, 08/12/2014 - 11:19am
You said in the beginning "where am I going to park?" ... and writing in opposition to these reforms. Maybe you changed your mind? Let's put that aside...
You should be the one pushing parking reform... more than me. and not the crummy, half-baked stuff proposed by the city ... real reform. That would enable you to pay for a parrking space for your grandparents and have availability of space for them to use at any time of day they wanted to return home. And it would also allow you to park, on the street (or in a public lot, if they exist), as a visitor and have availabillity for when you need it.
What's the magic? The concept is simple: flexible prices for parking that depend on where you are parking and when you are parking... the prices are set according to the level of demand for that particular location at that particular time. This effort tries to make sure that at least 1 parking space is open at any given time of day on each block.
No other way to make it work. There's a bunch of ways to set it up and to deal with hte little things ... the details ... but the core idea is always market-based prices for parking.
Crickets, Patricia....
By Bob Leponge
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 6:50pm
I asked a very simple and respectful question: When my knees go, do you believe that you should be on the hook to buy an elevator for my house?
Crickets? Sorry Bob Leponge
By Patricia
Tue, 08/12/2014 - 9:44am
Crickets? Sorry Bob Leponge - there's a thing called life that takes up most of my time, and yours I am sure :).
You know, I went home last night thinking of my post and how I thought I may have come off too strong. I certainly don't imply you have no compassion, but I do think elderly are fair game as they are very vulnerable. I admit, it's a touchy subject with me, only because of my experiences. If I came off too strong, for that I apologize.
You ask if I wouldn't mind subsidizing an elevator because of your knees. No, but how about one of those chair lifts? Much cheaper and just as good if your knees are giving out. Do you qualify for a subsidy? This state subsidizes much, why not? You've lived in your home for decades, raised generations of kids and have made the city a livable place, you know the kind of place that people from all over want to live in.
If the state can subsidize a convention center to the tune of 1.1 billion, I am sure we can tuck aside a couple grand (if you qualify) for a chair lift..
I've got no problem helping those in need, I just happen to think this state does a lousy job of it.
Bostonrose48 suggested paying for a spot isn't out of the question for her or her family - so there's that.
But what do visiting nurses, home health aides, social services, etc. what are they to do? Its a legitimate question.
Visiting nurses, etc.
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 08/12/2014 - 10:11am
They do what anyone else does, whether a visiting friend, a pizza delivery guy, or a plumber. If it's a neighborhood with plenty of parking, they park. If it's a neighborhood with scarce parking, they park in a pay lot, or drive around looking for a space, or they don't bring a car.
Manhattan has visiting nurses, home health aides, and social services people, you know.
Elderly not the issue
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 5:06pm
I don't think anyone is saying that elderly citizens are the issue. If someone is 80 and can't get around very well then they can get a handicapped placard (although I’m not sure how many 80 year olds are still driving themselves around). It seems to me that the elderly and disabled are the most protected groups under any of the theorized parking systems (as they should be). I don't think anyone has suggested charging disabled people with handicapped spots to park. The obvious issue here is handicapped parking abuse, which becomes even more important when you have to purchase a parking sticker, but that’s a different conversation.
" I go to visit my grandparents not only because they are..."
By Boston_res
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 11:56am
Yeah. So come into the city and inconvenience its residents by taking a parking space.
Take the silver line. It goes right down Washington and you can walk from there. Not that hard. Wah...wah.
seriously what are you 5? I
By Bostonrose48
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 12:11pm
seriously what are you 5? I live and work on the south shore i need my car to drive to and from work. I drive to Southie to visit my 80 year old grandparents and I drive to get home to the south shore. When I lived in Boston I didn't have a car nor did I have a license.
Are you four...
By Boston_res
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 12:27pm
...I've give you a few seconds to break out those fingers and start counting.
The red line in Braintree has ample parking. There are also many T stations in many surrounding communities which also have ample parking. Not hard. Really hot hard. So how long is your list of excuses?
In my post
By Bostonrose48
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 1:27pm
I was asking what could a visitor do. I didn't say i wouldn't do whatever it took to visit my grandparents. If parking and taking a 20 minute train ride is required to visit them then I absolutely will. But what else can a visitor do when there are no other options?
Visiting nurses or any other
By Patricia
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 4:48pm
Visiting nurses or any other home health aide? What would they do?
Same thing they do in Manhattan
By Bob Leponge
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 5:23pm
Same thing they do in Manhattan.
What is your alternative proposal?
My home health care friends
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 5:30pm
take the MBTA to work, as do most people I know who work or visit Boston, even those with cars.
You do know what they do now, right?
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 08/12/2014 - 12:17pm
They pay meters and they get tickets, since Boston has no permit system for such in-home caregivers.
All the more reason to redesign the system - even if said redesign could not legally favor "old town families" over "yuppies/transients/newcomers".
That's the situation in most
By lbb
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 1:34pm
That's the situation in most Boston neighborhoods. When I lived in the Fenway, there were a few visitor spaces, and that was it.
any news on a pilot program
By tape
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 11:12am
any news on a pilot program for doing anything at all about double-parking?
Parking Problems
By plt3012
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 11:16am
That's right! It's all the fault of double-parkers and wrong side parking i.e.; old neighborhood 'dinosaurs.'
It's is a direct result of overdevelopement. That's it. Pretty simple. Sadly, it's too late to do anything concrete. Charging people more for everything isn't an answer.
A seven day program will help a little. Over the years too many zoning variances were granted to developers that allowed the construction of multi-unit buildings. This brought more and more motor vehicles.
Despite the constant myth of people owning fewer cars; we are seeing the exact opposite. I read posts about ,more public transportation, high speed rail, bike lanes etc. It's all fine. But in spite of this South Boston is overflowing with drivers trying to find parking spots.
For years our local elected officials allowed this overdevelopement. Now they're speaking out. I just wish you guys did this sooner.
Commence South Boston bashing!
Another reason..
By SoBoYuppie
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 11:56am
...there should be no more apartments and 1-2 bedrooms condos built in SoBo.
The only development should be:
- Parks and outdoor space
- Row of single family townhomes.
- Condos with a minimum of 3 Beds / 3 Baths and 2000 sq ft.
nothing more...
- The Original SoBo Yuppie
Charging people more for
By JJJJJ
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 2:13pm
You mean because you dont want to pay more?
You know, vacations to Florida should cost no more than $50, airfare and hotel included. Charging more isnt th answer.
Im fairly certain that census facts arent myths. Try again.
So true
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 2:20pm
There should be Deed restrictions that any development without parking cannot be sold to anyone having a car registered in NY, CT, RI, or NJ.
You might want to read this first
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 3:30pm
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Comm...
City has no balls
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 11:50am
They didn't go far enough. The resident parking should be 24 hours a day, like every other section of the City that has a parking program.
Then the City should start towing all the cars with out of State plates. Stop rewarding the jerks who continue to have their cars registered at Mommy and Daddy's house.
"Then the City should start towing all the cars with out..."
By Boston_res
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 11:56am
Yup!
In the interest of correct
By Rob
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 3:23pm
In the interest of correct information being a baseline: not every resident parking program in the city is 24 hours. Some apply only during the day or at night, only on weekdays, etc. Most of the southernly neighborhoods only have resident parking in specific areas like near the T stops or commuter rail.
Name an area
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 5:23pm
And show me a picture of a resident parking sign elsewhere in the City that have times posted.
Hyde Park Avenue in Forest Hills
By adamg
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 5:52pm
Proof (it'll take a moment or two for the photo to show up).
Back side of Ashmont station
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 6:15pm
Is residential during business hours. Prevents people from suburbs from driving in and parking and taking T to work..
Don't have a pic but I assure they are posted with hours. They're not 24/7 b/c there is no shortage at other times.
What's Google?
By WhatTheBins
Tue, 08/12/2014 - 12:03pm
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/08/...
Additionally, Beacon Street on Beacon Hill and Berkeley Street over the Pike between South End and Back Bay, off the top of my head.
A better solution
By James RePass
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 12:59pm
Would be to build a few municipal garages (ideally instead of rebuilding half of the projects they just tore down) that have transponders for fast lane passes. That way, Southie residents can get in for free and use them as resident parking, and out of neighborhoods/state could have their transponders charges, like a toll.
A garage costs $20,000 a
By JJJJJ
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 3:34pm
A garage costs $20,000 a space. But you think WE should pay for it so YOU can park for free?
How about you pay to renovate my bathroom? Thats just $16,000
Won't solve the issue
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 3:40pm
If Southie residents can still park for free this won't solve the problem, only delay it by adding more parking that will quickly get filled up as development continues and more people move to the area. There are only 2 options:
1. Stop development and lock down the neighborhood so no one new can move in (this is obviously extremely stupid, since the economy of any city needs development to continue to thrive)
2. Charge a market rate for parking so demand will be reduced and come in line with supply (economics 101 here people)
I do like your idea of doing something more useful with that land than building subsidized housing, though.
1. Stop development and lock
By SoBoYuppie
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 4:25pm
no. dont lock down development but limit it to:
- Parks and outdoor space
- Row of single family townhomes.
- Condos with a minimum of 3 Beds / 3 Baths and 2000 sq ft.
nothing more...
PROBLEM SOLVED.
WHY IS THIS EVEN A DEBATE?
By ChrisInEastie
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 3:23pm
We live in a densely populated major city. Whether you drive or don't drive, suck it up and deal with it. If you don't like it, go ahead and move instead of suggesting everyone else that doesn't agree with you should. And yes, I did just do exactly what I just said not to. People who need or want cars are not wrong for needing or wanting cars. People who don't are not wrong for this either.
The "NOBODY SHOULD DRIVE" "NOBODY SHOULD DRIVE BUT ME" AND "I LIVE HERE SO NOBODY ELSE CAN PARK IN THIS PART OF THE CITY" arguments are getting really old, and no less pointless.
Let's have a show of hands
By anon
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 6:42pm
How many of you wanna be dictators live in Southie? Boston?
Just what I thought.
Raising Hand!
By SoBoYuppie
Mon, 08/11/2014 - 7:33pm
- The Original SoBo Yuppie
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