The mannequin at Perkins Supply made out of PVC pipe joined by another mannequin made out of PVC pipe?
Pride lights on the monument?
The Blackthorn reverting to being called the Car Stop? Because we all know what Car Stop means to the gays, right?
Drag Shows inside Fort Independence? Cruising at the McKay Monument?
Rising real estate prices and little shops not selling scratchies and butts? Oh, wait.
Of course I'm kidding here. It is about damned time that the fossils that "run" South Boston get with the program and that all their kids and grandkids who are in those fine South Boston neighborhoods known as Pembroke and Weymouth get their heads out their arses as well and realize that people are people are people and it is just a parade, not a Boondock Saints preservation society meeting. Good for common sense prevailing here.
By Statistically Speaking on Tue, 12/16/2014 - 10:04am.
There have been some essays suggesting that South Boston may have a much larger gay population than is obvious. By the neighborhoods...
1st - South End and Back Bay - Younger, upwardly mobile singles
2nd - South Boston - Single middle income
3rd - JP/Roslindale - Committed couples, some w/kids, home owners.
Thank you for reporting this - haven't heard this reported elsewhere (other than your link to the AP report). Wonder why this isn't getting more notice? It is big news, and as others have said, about time!
There seems to be a pretty close overlap between the "obsessed with what gay people do for sex" crowd and the "obsessed with teen boy sagging pants and underwear" crowd.
As a gay male, I would like to point out once and for all that the "the more people protest about gays the more likely they are to be in the closet themselves" meme is extremely inaccurate. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it doesn't happen as often as you would think. But people seem to use it as the automatic default explanation when someone exhibits homophobic behavior. Likewise with the "children/teens who bully are bullied at home themselves" theory. Yes it happens, but it's not an automatic thing. A lot of people bully just because they like to, plain and simple. And a lot of straight people are simply homophobic with no tendency to be gay themselves.
Also, I was conflating the obsession with "ramming down our throats" with the never ending obsession over visible teen boy underwear for the sake of pure absurdity. When people say what most people would consider extreme things like this as a mantra, and proceed to obsess over the sex lives or clothing choices of others, they risk being in the category of "one thinks thou doth protest too much".
Swirly, even if I don't always agree with you, I always think you're fighting the good fight. But I do think that your comment above is a little like mansplaining. Let's call it "allyslpaining" (apologies if you identify in a way that's different than ally). The gay guy who commented above was speaking from his experience and you kind of shut it down. As a member of the lgbt community, the way your response was worded didn't sit well with me.
My problem with the "one thinks thou doth protest too much" thing that people tend to say (straight and otherwise) is that it sounds a little bit like an insult or a tease, like they should be ashamed of being gay, in the closet, or questioning. A bigot is a bigot, and hateful or intolerant people are just that. I just hope that maybe they have a personal experience that can help them to be more understanding and accepting.
Separate but equal is the very bedrock that this nation was founded upon! We have never wavered from it before in this nation's history and we'll never stop now!
Honey, parades are inherently gay. Didn't they teach you that when you were younger?
The uniforms, the costumes, the music, the synchronized marching - with a capital "G".
If I can't find a way to fit the phrase "Gays always trying to make things gay" into casual conversation today, I will be very disappointed in myself. The ridiculousness of the statement just makes me giggle every time I read it.
Since this is a gay veterans group and not a gay rights group, I'm going to guess that at the first sign of a rainbow flag, they're going to be kicked out faster than when they used to be under Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
... is blue with white lettering. But the name is sufficient to raise the hackles of the old-timers.
I'd suggest that the corporate sponsors wait a year and make sure this group actually does get to march, with banner. Because I can see the parade organizers pulling a Lucy-with-the-football if they think they can get away with it.
The amount of racist crap that now shows up in the anon approval queue here is just staggering. You'd think folks would get the idea by now it's not getting up on the site, but whatever floats their boats.
But thanks for your note. I'm glad to hear South Boston's opiate crisis is under control and there's no more crime in the neighborhood.
Right, incorrect paperwork was the ONLY reason gays have been kept out of the parade since time in memoriam. That makes perfect sense as long as I stay in my tiny space/time vacuum.
And by front page, I mean the front page of the Metro section. Below the fold.
These guys satisfied the requirements of the SBAWV Council, so fair play to them. I look forward to not seeing them march in the parade next year. What, I just don't go. Something about people being Irish for a day and their assumption that that means consuming massive amounts of alcoholic beverages.
Our Portuguese neighbor threw the best St. Patrick's Day parties and all the families on our street had a blast. Must be sad to live life with such a dismal outlook!
Okay, part of the outlook is that a friend got jumped at the parade. Back in 1990, but still, if that time frame is used by black people to say it is unsafe in Southie (definitely at the time, not so much now) I can say the same. The other part of the outlook is the fact that for some reason Americans, both of Irish descent and otherwise, equate St. Paddy's Day with drunken debauchery. I can't find the video online, but on RTE 2's Republic of Telly last season, for the holiday they sent cameras to New York to show drunken louts, since that is what's expected on this side of the ocean.
I'm proud of being Irish 364 days of the year. I celebrate Easter Monday. It's just that one day of the year, amateur day, that I avoid Southie, avoid the downtown bar scene, and quietly celebrate. I'll hit the county association's annual celebration, replete with Amhrán na bhFiann being sung by a show band, but that's about it.
That said, I hope the veterans' group will be well welcomed in the South Boston Allied War Veterans' parade.
They dont screw it up trying to jam their sexual preference down peoples throats at a FAMILY EVENT! Remember, their being allowed next year, not indefinitely.
I've seen this used repeatedly by people who feel their "deeply held religious beliefs" and "civil rights" are being "violated". They just don't get the irony.
Straight people are always so worried about being turned gay.
Have you ever been to the Dorchester Day Parade? Dot Out has had a float for years, they have multicolored balloons and everybody on the float always seems to be having just the grandest time, but they don't go around handing out copies of the Gay Agenda. They're just enjoying being part of the community. I suspect the veterans' group in South Boston will be a bit more subdued. They're veterans, who put their lives on the line to protect your freedoms, not Imperial Storm Troopers (who, granted are always the best part of the Southie parade - so much Irish heritage to admire there).
I've been gay since 70s and I haven't gotten my copy of the gay agenda yet or my free toaster. I know I've converted some people too, I should have a few free toasters by now
WHERE'S MY COPY OF THE GAY AGENDA OR MY FREE TOASTER?
1. The Agenda can be beamed directly into your mind while sleeping. Just leave a pink light
on overnight. If no pink lights are available, click your heels (no ruby slippers needed) 3 times
and say "Brunch Is The Bomb."
2. You can register for a toaster with Amazon. Due to the holiday rush, you may not get it until after
Saturnalia.
Cousin to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Everyone knows that objective of both of these sets of world class, world known, secret documents provide the steps by which the Knights Templar, the Tri-Lateral Commission, the Queen of England, the Pope, JFK, Elvis and now Michael Jackson plan to turn the world in a sequin gown wearing billion strong chorus line.
with the St. Patrick's Day parade? Is it because to 'progressives' the 'Irish' (AMERICANS of part or full Irish descent) somehow represent white people, are more 'Aryan' appearing, therefore 'racist'? We have many so-called ethnic parades and festivals in and around Boston, from Puerto Ricans, to Greeks, to Italian, to Israeli (Jewish), etc., but the 'Irish' seem to have a bullseye on them at least as far as some people are concerned.
And hold your horses....I'm not anti-gay by any stretch (won't use the term homophobic because to me it sounds stupid).
The other parades you mention haven't barred gays from participating. And the St Patricks Day parade in southie has repeatedly stated they are a veterans parade, not an irish parade, in blocking gays from marching openly.
The reason people have an issue with the St. Paddy's day parade in South Boston has nothing to do with race, ethnicity, Irishness, or Southie -- it's that for years the people running it were assholes.
Adam, considering how nasty the anons have been of late, I can't imagine the sewer that is the queue for approval that only you have to look at. On behalf of all of us who actually take the time and try to consistently post under our logins, thank you for taking that bullet for us.
And that's the crux of the matter, isn't it? Some of the old guard see gay people as being all about sex, all the time and everywhere, including in "their" parade. They're blind to the fact that it's they who continually exhibit this irrational sexual obsession. Why can't they just keep it to themselves?
Honestly I know when I am marching in a parade, I bring a boom box to play some hot disco tracks like Donna Summer and the BeeGees. Then I pick one of the five Village People costumes I have in my closet (the cop is my fav) and put that on.
Once I am in the parade, I start to take off my clothes, do thrusting movements, and disco dance like I am at the Blue Oyster. Maybe I'll take an innocent str8 guy out of the crowd and force him to do naughty things with me in the parade. Then when the parade is done, at the end I coax as many guys into the porto-toilets so trade blow jobs for Ketamine. Sometimes I have so many I have to sell tickets.
Because you know.. everyone seems to think gay people are just going to spontaneously going to have sex everywhere. Might as well live up to that expectation.
Comments
It's Over Man.
What's next?
The mannequin at Perkins Supply made out of PVC pipe joined by another mannequin made out of PVC pipe?
Pride lights on the monument?
The Blackthorn reverting to being called the Car Stop? Because we all know what Car Stop means to the gays, right?
Drag Shows inside Fort Independence? Cruising at the McKay Monument?
Rising real estate prices and little shops not selling scratchies and butts? Oh, wait.
Of course I'm kidding here. It is about damned time that the fossils that "run" South Boston get with the program and that all their kids and grandkids who are in those fine South Boston neighborhoods known as Pembroke and Weymouth get their heads out their arses as well and realize that people are people are people and it is just a parade, not a Boondock Saints preservation society meeting. Good for common sense prevailing here.
By the Neighborhoods
There have been some essays suggesting that South Boston may have a much larger gay population than is obvious. By the neighborhoods...
1st - South End and Back Bay - Younger, upwardly mobile singles
2nd - South Boston - Single middle income
3rd - JP/Roslindale - Committed couples, some w/kids, home owners.
Step in the right direction.
Step in the right direction.
About damn time
About damn time
Thank you Adam
Thank you for reporting this - haven't heard this reported elsewhere (other than your link to the AP report). Wonder why this isn't getting more notice? It is big news, and as others have said, about time!
Gelzinis
Has it in the Herald today
Fox25 local tv reported it
Fox25 local tv reported it with this morning's news.
Globe reported it
The Globe reported it - but it was not a top story - check under the Metro section.
disgusting
The gays have their own parade to march in why do they have to ruin the st. Patrick's day parade. Gays always trying to make things gay.
Why do you care what other
Why do you care what other people do with their sex organs? Afraid you might like it?
Note the tight overlap
There seems to be a pretty close overlap between the "obsessed with what gay people do for sex" crowd and the "obsessed with teen boy sagging pants and underwear" crowd.
Interesting.
Meme
As a gay male, I would like to point out once and for all that the "the more people protest about gays the more likely they are to be in the closet themselves" meme is extremely inaccurate. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it doesn't happen as often as you would think. But people seem to use it as the automatic default explanation when someone exhibits homophobic behavior. Likewise with the "children/teens who bully are bullied at home themselves" theory. Yes it happens, but it's not an automatic thing. A lot of people bully just because they like to, plain and simple. And a lot of straight people are simply homophobic with no tendency to be gay themselves.
Well ...
Not to entirely discount the truth of what you said here, but there is some science to support this "meme".
Also, I was conflating the obsession with "ramming down our throats" with the never ending obsession over visible teen boy underwear for the sake of pure absurdity. When people say what most people would consider extreme things like this as a mantra, and proceed to obsess over the sex lives or clothing choices of others, they risk being in the category of "one thinks thou doth protest too much".
Well....Squared
Swirly, even if I don't always agree with you, I always think you're fighting the good fight. But I do think that your comment above is a little like mansplaining. Let's call it "allyslpaining" (apologies if you identify in a way that's different than ally). The gay guy who commented above was speaking from his experience and you kind of shut it down. As a member of the lgbt community, the way your response was worded didn't sit well with me.
My problem with the "one thinks thou doth protest too much" thing that people tend to say (straight and otherwise) is that it sounds a little bit like an insult or a tease, like they should be ashamed of being gay, in the closet, or questioning. A bigot is a bigot, and hateful or intolerant people are just that. I just hope that maybe they have a personal experience that can help them to be more understanding and accepting.
Exactly right!
Separate but equal is the very bedrock that this nation was founded upon! We have never wavered from it before in this nation's history and we'll never stop now!
I have the feeling that your
I have the feeling that your tongue-in-cheek humor is going to escape 98% of the readers here.
*sigh*
They're not marching for gay rights. They're a VETERANS GROUP. What do you have against veterans? Are you anti-American?
Come on Matty
You of all people should be able to spot a troll.
That Darn Agenda Strikes Again
Honey, parades are inherently gay. Didn't they teach you that when you were younger?
The uniforms, the costumes, the music, the synchronized marching - with a capital "G".
If I can't find a way to fit
If I can't find a way to fit the phrase "Gays always trying to make things gay" into casual conversation today, I will be very disappointed in myself. The ridiculousness of the statement just makes me giggle every time I read it.
I'm quite surprised...
... that many folks who style themselves "Christians" simply ignore the evidence that God himself is gay.
What are their stipulations?
Since this is a gay veterans group and not a gay rights group, I'm going to guess that at the first sign of a rainbow flag, they're going to be kicked out faster than when they used to be under Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
The OutVets Banner...
... is blue with white lettering. But the name is sufficient to raise the hackles of the old-timers.
I'd suggest that the corporate sponsors wait a year and make sure this group actually does get to march, with banner. Because I can see the parade organizers pulling a Lucy-with-the-football if they think they can get away with it.
wow
Is this starting early this year?
We're already talking about St Patty's day already?
oh good, means I can start planning my Memorial Day BBQ after January 1.
Money talks
Sure, they all talk a good story about how they don't need sponsorship from Harpoon, Sam Adams, Liberty Mutual, John Hancock, etc.
The reality is that there was no way they were going to make up for the corporate sponsorship that the past year's illiterate tantrums cost them.
funny
I was making a funny... It's not even Christmas and we're talking about St Patty's day already.
So like I said, I guess I can start planning my Memorial Day BBQ after New years!
sorry
That was meant to be free standing, clean running and sanitary in its individual packaging.
Oh well. ;)
Halloween in July is next
Trick or Treat with Fireworks.
Whats Adam
Going to blog about come early spring?
Hey, at least he still has all winter to bash Southie over space savers!
If the lawnchair fits...
Maybe if the inbred townies of Southie weren't so eminently bashable (not to mention sensitive), they wouldn't get written about so much.
I love how
on this site you can bash white people, but god forbid you call out young black males!
Hey at least the townies, have HS diplomas and a F____G job!
Yes, God forbid
The amount of racist crap that now shows up in the anon approval queue here is just staggering. You'd think folks would get the idea by now it's not getting up on the site, but whatever floats their boats.
But thanks for your note. I'm glad to hear South Boston's opiate crisis is under control and there's no more crime in the neighborhood.
a F____G job?
Isn't that how Whitey got his start in crime - a F____G "job" in the gay bars?
Southie resident = white, huh
Southie resident = white, huh? You said it, I didn't.
Hey at least the townies,
Wow, the Boston public schools really are pathetic, aren't they?
Seriously?
Who here is bashing white people? I see people bashing bad behavior.
Seriously?
Who here is bashing white people? I see people bashing bad behavior.
St. Paddy's not St. Patty's
St. Paddy's not St. Patty's
Got your St. Patty right here...
... albeit not from Ireland:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_of_Naples
Big events do not get planned
Big events do not get planned the weekend before. This should not come as a surprise.
what a novel idea
The vets followed the rules and were accepted by their fellow vets to march in the parade.
Right, incorrect paperwork
Right, incorrect paperwork was the ONLY reason gays have been kept out of the parade since time in memoriam. That makes perfect sense as long as I stay in my tiny space/time vacuum.
"immemorial".
"immemorial".
Otherwise, spot on.
How things have changed
This was on the front page of the Globe.
And by front page, I mean the front page of the Metro section. Below the fold.
These guys satisfied the requirements of the SBAWV Council, so fair play to them. I look forward to not seeing them march in the parade next year. What, I just don't go. Something about people being Irish for a day and their assumption that that means consuming massive amounts of alcoholic beverages.
Our Portuguese neighbor threw
Our Portuguese neighbor threw the best St. Patrick's Day parties and all the families on our street had a blast. Must be sad to live life with such a dismal outlook!
Memories and realities
Okay, part of the outlook is that a friend got jumped at the parade. Back in 1990, but still, if that time frame is used by black people to say it is unsafe in Southie (definitely at the time, not so much now) I can say the same. The other part of the outlook is the fact that for some reason Americans, both of Irish descent and otherwise, equate St. Paddy's Day with drunken debauchery. I can't find the video online, but on RTE 2's Republic of Telly last season, for the holiday they sent cameras to New York to show drunken louts, since that is what's expected on this side of the ocean.
I'm proud of being Irish 364 days of the year. I celebrate Easter Monday. It's just that one day of the year, amateur day, that I avoid Southie, avoid the downtown bar scene, and quietly celebrate. I'll hit the county association's annual celebration, replete with Amhrán na bhFiann being sung by a show band, but that's about it.
That said, I hope the veterans' group will be well welcomed in the South Boston Allied War Veterans' parade.
Hopefully
They dont screw it up trying to jam their sexual preference down peoples throats at a FAMILY EVENT! Remember, their being allowed next year, not indefinitely.
Almost Bingo
Note to self: don't be seen in public with husband because that's jamming something down someones throat at a family event - and they might enjoy it.
So, they dye the beer green to make the vomit pools festive for the kids?
Interesting choice of idiom.
Interesting choice of idiom.
That certain group of people
I've seen this used repeatedly by people who feel their "deeply held religious beliefs" and "civil rights" are being "violated". They just don't get the irony.
Jesus
Straight people are always so worried about being turned gay.
Have you ever been to the Dorchester Day Parade? Dot Out has had a float for years, they have multicolored balloons and everybody on the float always seems to be having just the grandest time, but they don't go around handing out copies of the Gay Agenda. They're just enjoying being part of the community. I suspect the veterans' group in South Boston will be a bit more subdued. They're veterans, who put their lives on the line to protect your freedoms, not Imperial Storm Troopers (who, granted are always the best part of the Southie parade - so much Irish heritage to admire there).
Of course they don't hand out copies
THEY JAM THEM DOWN PEOPLE'S THROATS!! JAM THEM!! TAKE IT!! TAKE IT!! YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT!!
Haven't you been paying attention?
What makes you think they are gay?
"Wha'?! They turned me into a gay!"
"A gay?"
"...I got bettah..."
Gay
I've been gay since 70s and I haven't gotten my copy of the gay agenda yet or my free toaster. I know I've converted some people too, I should have a few free toasters by now
WHERE'S MY COPY OF THE GAY AGENDA OR MY FREE TOASTER?
/s(arcasm) or /s(nark)
Sorry
to hear that!
what's sorry
What's sorry about it?
I'm very happy being gay for the most part. Not sure if I had the opportunity to 'change' that if I would..
He's sorry that you didn't
He's sorry that you didn't get your free toaster. I think it got shoved down Booger's throat, so you might start looking there.
Here you go
http://www.bettybowers.com/homoagenda.html
You can register for the toaster
1. The Agenda can be beamed directly into your mind while sleeping. Just leave a pink light
on overnight. If no pink lights are available, click your heels (no ruby slippers needed) 3 times
and say "Brunch Is The Bomb."
2. You can register for a toaster with Amazon. Due to the holiday rush, you may not get it until after
Saturnalia.
Gay Agenda...
Cousin to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Everyone knows that objective of both of these sets of world class, world known, secret documents provide the steps by which the Knights Templar, the Tri-Lateral Commission, the Queen of England, the Pope, JFK, Elvis and now Michael Jackson plan to turn the world in a sequin gown wearing billion strong chorus line.
Anyone disagreeing with this conspiracy theory may send your complaints to http:\\www.peoplewhodontgetit.co.mars .
What is the obsession
with the St. Patrick's Day parade? Is it because to 'progressives' the 'Irish' (AMERICANS of part or full Irish descent) somehow represent white people, are more 'Aryan' appearing, therefore 'racist'? We have many so-called ethnic parades and festivals in and around Boston, from Puerto Ricans, to Greeks, to Italian, to Israeli (Jewish), etc., but the 'Irish' seem to have a bullseye on them at least as far as some people are concerned.
And hold your horses....I'm not anti-gay by any stretch (won't use the term homophobic because to me it sounds stupid).
The other parades you mention
The other parades you mention haven't barred gays from participating. And the St Patricks Day parade in southie has repeatedly stated they are a veterans parade, not an irish parade, in blocking gays from marching openly.
The Irish have a "bullseye"
The Irish have a "bullseye" on their back because they wouldn't let gay veterans groups march in the parade for many years. It's not complicated.
That exactly
what it is, no other parade, cultural event or the like besides THIS parade has been subject to such scrutiny.
There is no gay pride float in the Haitian Parade, and i never heard anyone say boo.
Did any gay Haitian groups
Did any gay Haitian groups ever ask to march in that parade?
I highly doubt it
Gay Haitians are not treated very well by fellow Haitians.
I think the term is
Gaytians.
None of the above...
The reason people have an issue with the St. Paddy's day parade in South Boston has nothing to do with race, ethnicity, Irishness, or Southie -- it's that for years the people running it were assholes.
The NRA asked to march in
The NRA asked to march in this parade too. Please welcome them with open 'arms'.
"The NRA" is not a veterans'
"The NRA" is not a veterans' group. So no.
Don't let the original poster
Don't let the original poster find out about the CMP or they'll really have a coronary.
Adam, here's your angle:
Call up The Immaculate Heart of Mary School and see if they're going to march this year or not now.
Veterans
Get the last laugh. Now all you hypocritical bigots have nothing to whine about between now and March 17th.
Lovely
Adam, considering how nasty the anons have been of late, I can't imagine the sewer that is the queue for approval that only you have to look at. On behalf of all of us who actually take the time and try to consistently post under our logins, thank you for taking that bullet for us.
Gee, it makes me wonder why
Gee, it makes me wonder why the veterans didn't do this years ago, if it's such a big laugh for them.
More details on the vote
The Dorchester Reporter has the details.
What it's really about
From the Dorchester Reporter:
And that's the crux of the matter, isn't it? Some of the old guard see gay people as being all about sex, all the time and everywhere, including in "their" parade. They're blind to the fact that it's they who continually exhibit this irrational sexual obsession. Why can't they just keep it to themselves?
HOT GAY SEX *CLICK HERE*
Made ya click!
Honestly I know when I am marching in a parade, I bring a boom box to play some hot disco tracks like Donna Summer and the BeeGees. Then I pick one of the five Village People costumes I have in my closet (the cop is my fav) and put that on.
Once I am in the parade, I start to take off my clothes, do thrusting movements, and disco dance like I am at the Blue Oyster. Maybe I'll take an innocent str8 guy out of the crowd and force him to do naughty things with me in the parade. Then when the parade is done, at the end I coax as many guys into the porto-toilets so trade blow jobs for Ketamine. Sometimes I have so many I have to sell tickets.
Because you know.. everyone seems to think gay people are just going to spontaneously going to have sex everywhere. Might as well live up to that expectation.
I mean isn't this what people think?
(SARCASM)
Wrong...all wrong
You didn't say you were doing all of that on roller skates.
What about the chaps?
You forgot the part about leather chaps.
ya
Was a hard decision between being the Village People cop or the Village People leatherman.
I have both.
(and for real I do own a set of chaps....)